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Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:39 am
by Clarets4me
Gary Lineker seems to divide people I know, he seems to be a Marmite sort of character....

a) Much loved national treasure, in the Des Lynam/David Coleman mould, sends himself up on those adverts, never booked as a player and all those goals, lovely host on MOTD, remember how he looked after Gazza at Italia 90...etc...

b) Deserted his childhood sweetheart & married a lingerie model, tax dodging, crisp-peddling pratt, did you notice how none of his family were on " Who do you think you are ? " family history programme, & now he's taken FIFA's shilling to do the World Cup draw ? Hypocrite !

Where do you stand ??

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:43 am
by taio
I'm guessing you're b)

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:54 am
by Bainsyclaret
I like him. I think he's quite intelligent and has a certain amount of integrity

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:11 am
by scouseclaret
As a presenter I think he’s very good. As a bloke he is, by many accounts, an arrogant prick.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:18 am
by cricketfieldclarets
Bainsyclaret wrote:I like him. I think he's quite intelligent and has a certain amount of integrity
He has little of the former and zero of the latter.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:22 am
by Funkydrummer
I don't mind him at all, think he is ok.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:24 am
by yTib
neither him nor des lynham have never been in the 'national treasure' mould.

he's just a bloke getting well paid for easy jobs.

i wish i was.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:25 am
by ClaretMoffitt
Lefty prick, but hes okay over all

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:38 am
by JegunClaret
Patronising prat.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:57 am
by clarethrough
Given the chance on his throat.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:58 am
by fatboy47
An already very wealthy man, greedy enough to want to fill his pockets even further by marketing fat and salt laden junk food to gullible low income families.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:09 am
by Top Claret
Just another sad remoaning ****

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:48 am
by claretandy
Chief virtue signaller and tax dodger.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:55 am
by Clockwork Claret
claretandy wrote:Chief virtue signaller and tax dodger.
Spot on. Similar to Ricky Gervais, uses politics to detract from the fact that he's a cretin.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:59 am
by Claret&Green
And I'm p1553d off with him constantly spouting how SD should move on

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:18 am
by TVC15
Tries to come across as Mr Nice Guy on TV but by all accounts not a very nice bloke off screen.

Personally I think he's a wrong un - seems highly motivated by money and pound to a penny he will have been involved in many complex tax avoidance schemes (like many others)

Despite being a wrong un he does seem decent at his job - but he ain't no Jeff Stelling !

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:19 am
by mikeS
Des Lynam was better.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:22 am
by Firthy
I don't mind him but after MOTD last night he's on my prick list. The only thing he could mention after a good win is " What about SD is he staying"

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:58 am
by cutsy123
Prick list top 10

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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:01 am
by taio
Firthy wrote:I don't mind him but after MOTD last night he's on my prick list. The only thing he could mention after a good win is " What about SD is he staying"
He said other things like: "what a performance", "1 point away from a champions league spot" and "instances today of breathtaking football"

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:06 am
by mybloodisclaret
After AGAIN bringing SD up Neville said that if he was Dyche he wouldn't move on, Linekar dismissed him quickly by saying fair enough before moving swiftly on. B for me.

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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:10 am
by Sidney1st
I don't mind him, he does a good job and he don't half give Piers Morgan some stick on Twitter.
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Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:17 am
by LeadBelly
As a player: very good career over a period with England & some big clubs, always likely to knock one in. 8/10
As a pundit: not the greatest but a long way off the worst, he's got some talent with the gab but overestimates himself sometimes - 7/10
As a person: virtue signaller but involved in tax avoidance, advertising junk food & other venal stuff (does he really need all that extra £?) 4/10

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:48 am
by bfcjg
Hypocrite,played well for England, when it comes to money a thin version of fat Sam.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:51 am
by joey13
Loved him for a couple of weeks in 86’ and for a month in 90’ that’s about it.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:00 am
by Lancasterclaret
I don't have a problem with celebrities using the fact they have lots of people interested in their opinions having them and sharing them.

That kind of thing is an essential part of any democracy, and should be encouraged.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:17 am
by evensteadiereddie
Lineker being ripped into by the usual cretins on here - and Piers Morgan - so he's gone up in my estimation on that basis alone.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:46 am
by IanMcL
The crisps are ok.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:53 am
by conyoviejo
Lineker is a ladies pee out of..

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:54 am
by Imploding Turtle
Clockwork Claret wrote:Spot on. Similar to Ricky Gervais, uses politics to detract from the fact that he's a cretin.
What is it about Gervais that makes him a "cretin"?

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:57 am
by TVC15
evensteadiereddie wrote:Lineker being ripped into by the usual cretins on here - and Piers Morgan - so he's gone up in my estimation on that basis alone.
Piers Morgan is down there with the lowest of the low - nobody is saying Lineker is anywhere his level.

Opinion pretty split on Lineker - so that makes anyone who doesn't like him a "cretin" does it ?

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:03 am
by conyoviejo
TVC15 wrote:Piers Morgan is down there with the lowest of the low - nobody is saying Lineker is anywhere his level.

Opinion pretty split on Lineker - so that makes anyone who doesn't like him a "cretin" does it ?
It does to most teachers as they know what cretins are.. :D

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:25 am
by Colburn_Claret
I loved him as a player.
Like him as a pundit.
Couldn't give a toss about his personal life.
He does seem to cling on to SD leaving though. Anyone would think he'd put his life savings on him going, he looks that desperate.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:35 am
by 1968claret
For all those that are saying he is a tax cheat, don’t believe everything the papers say on this matter.
Using offshore accounts to purchase property doesn’t automatically equate to tax avoidance and the explanations he has given are perfectly plausible and reasonable.
Not saying he doesn’t but just because the paper says so, doesn’t make it so.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:42 am
by tiger76
Gary very meh,Danielle on the other hand nice bit of totti.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:01 pm
by Blackrod
Ok as a presenter but always plays it safe a bit like when he was as a player. As for Piers Morgan he is a complete pr*ck who is desperate to be relevant to people who have more fame. I'm surprised he hasn't been lamped yet.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:09 pm
by tiger76
It's amazing Piers Morgan walked away from the phone hacking scandal so easily,wouldn't trust him to walk my dog,never mind present a prime time news program :roll: sums up the standards of the British media when this idiot is fawned over.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:31 pm
by SalisburyClaret
Lineker - BBC management love him, the sports department hate him

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:38 pm
by evensteadiereddie
TVC15 wrote:Piers Morgan is down there with the lowest of the low - nobody is saying Lineker is anywhere his level.

Opinion pretty split on Lineker - so that makes anyone who doesn't like him a "cretin" does it ?


Not at all but I see the usual suspects are falling over themselves to have a lazy and oh so predictable pop - prick, lefty, tax dodger and so on.. They are the cretins, feel free to associate yourself with them if you wish. I'm sure you're bit better than that.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:26 pm
by Damo
evensteadiereddie wrote:Not at all but I see the usual suspects are falling over themselves to have a lazy and oh so predictable pop - prick, lefty, tax dodger and so on.. They are the cretins, feel free to associate yourself with them if you wish. I'm sure you're bit better than that.
You just keep on getting offended on his behalf Eddie. That's the spirit

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:46 pm
by SingaporeClarets
Very easy these days to work someone out.

“Too many tweets make a two hat”

Although given the lack of tweets by the two hat who said that, I suppose there are exceptions.

Before Lineker started tweeting he wasn’t such a marmite figure.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:22 pm
by COYC73
He was my most favourite player when I was a kid and he was playing for England.....

Now though....he is most definitely b)
I absolutely can't stand the pr!ck...!!!

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:40 pm
by elwaclaret
Don't dislike him on MotD to be honest as a person.... there are more than a few skeletons. I don't think we can judge from this range. It was kept very quiet when his brother was sent down for drug dealing through the Lineker pubs, in which he was a major investor... which would impact on his being a fit character for TV IF he was involved to any further level. But like I say we cannot really judge on the titbits we receive.... not that tht will stop folk making up their own minds on him. As for the crisp adverts - at first I liked him sending himself up... but its now become a tired cash cow.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:02 pm
by deanothedino
fatboy47 wrote:An already very wealthy man, greedy enough to want to fill his pockets even further by marketing fat and salt laden junk food to gullible low income families.
Fat isn't actually bad for you... Salt is though, the carbs in Walkers are also worse for you than the fats.

Most of the fat in Walkers is mono-unsaturated and polyunsaturated. The former being what makes the Mediterranean diet good for your heart and the latter being an essential fat that the body can't produce.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:17 pm
by Sidney1st
Clockwork Claret wrote:Spot on. Similar to Ricky Gervais, uses politics to detract from the fact that he's a cretin.
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The world could do with more cretins like him.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:20 pm
by IndigoLake
I don't mind him at all. A lot of people seem to love or hate pundits but I'm fairly indifferent about most of them.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:15 pm
by evensteadiereddie
Damo wrote:You just keep on getting offended on his behalf Eddie. That's the spirit

Why should I be offended on Lineker's behalf - I'm sure a few jealous bell-ends' snipes won't worry him too much.
I don't think he's too bad as a presenter and as for his tax, well I guess there's quite a few of us hire an expert to keep our tax bills down.
Makes sense.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:47 pm
by Stayingup
Intelligent yes but much to twee for my liking and who wants to listen ti his political pronouncements?

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:52 pm
by evensteadiereddie
I don't know. He's not pronounced politically on "Match of the Day" so I'm not fussed tbh.

Re: Lineker... where do you stand ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:55 pm
by Jeffbfc
Ok for me.
Great player who actually did do the business on the pitch.
Not some arse like a lot of them who did the Jack of F all.