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World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:16 am
by FactualFrank
For those who aren't aware or perhaps may have forgotten, the draw is on this afternoon from 3pm on BBC2 and Sky Sports (amongst other channels I imagine, too).
The papers seem to be going with...
Toughest possible draw?
Brazil, England, Sweden, Nigeria.
The best draw possible?
Russia, England, Iran, Panama.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:36 am
by Dazzler
Let's have them bloody boxheads first up.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:56 pm
by Goobs
Would like Germany and two of the easier teams in the groups. That way we should be able to creep through in second and they wouldn't have the chance to knock us out of the tournament in the knockout stages (unless all the other teams fall ill and we get a bye through to the final)

Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:01 pm
by FactualFrank
It's about to start on BBC2, but it's on from 3pm until 4.30pm. How long does it take to draw out 32 balls.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:03 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Looking forward to this world cup. Some great new stadiums and some very interesting cities.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:04 pm
by Foshiznik
FactualFrank wrote:For those who aren't aware or perhaps may have forgotten, the draw is on this afternoon from 3pm on BBC2 and Sky Sports (amongst other channels I imagine, too).
The papers seem to be going with...
Toughest possible draw?
Brazil, England, Sweden, Nigeria.
The best draw possible?
Russia, England, Iran, Panama.
I personally see Iran as the strongest Asian team. The world rankings might say otherwise, but I'm more impressed with their team spirit than the qualitys of South Korea.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:12 pm
by FactualFrank
So do we want to draw a European side from Pot 1.
If we do that, it means we can't be drawn with Denmark, Iceland or Sweden from Pot 3 as only two European sides can be in the same group.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:39 pm
by Paul Waine
FactualFrank wrote:So do we want to draw a European side from Pot 1.
If we do that, it means we can't be drawn with Denmark, Iceland or Sweden from Pot 3 as only two European sides can be in the same group.
Or the only none European teams are Argentina and Brazil.
Spain and Portugal looks tasty in Group 2.
Are we going to get Germany (watching live) - or Belgium or Poland?
And, we will take Belgium.
And, we finish with Belgium, Panama, Tunisia and England.
Is that easy enough, Gareth?
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:44 pm
by FactualFrank
Belgium
England
Tunisia
So far.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:52 pm
by Paul Waine
Who would have thought Russia would be grouped with Saudia Arabia, Egypt and Uruguay? What were the odds on that?
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:53 pm
by CombatClaret
Russia v Saudi opener.
FIX!!!!
Portugal, Spain, Morocco.
Local derby group.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:59 pm
by RingoMcCartney
No worries for us getting thru to the knock out stages at all!
First 2 games - Tunisia and Panama. No trouble there, we'll be thru.
I think after the 2nd game we'll already have a cigar on!
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:59 pm
by Imploding Turtle
What a great draw for Belgium, Tunisia and Panama.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:00 pm
by KefkaClaret
Southgate is seriously incompetent if he can't get us out of that group.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:03 pm
by Claret-On-A-T-Rex
Two crap performances against poor teams and then a must win game against Belgium, which we'll lose.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:04 pm
by Steve1956
Tough group... I think we will struggle.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:05 pm
by PhiladelphiaChris
confused as to why they moved Panama to our group?
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:09 pm
by Claret-On-A-T-Rex
Paul Waine wrote:Who would have thought Russia would be grouped with Saudia Arabia, Egypt and Uruguay? What were the odds on that?
All three are ranked higher than Russia.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:10 pm
by CombatClaret
PhiladelphiaChris wrote:confused as to why they moved Panama to our group?
Already an American teams in the others
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:12 pm
by Claret-On-A-T-Rex
Rankings
Uruguay 21
Egypt 31
Saudi Arabia 63
Russia 65
I hope all three give Russia a beating but it being the corrupt World Cup I bet they make the semi-finals at least.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:13 pm
by PhiladelphiaChris
CombatClaret wrote:Already an American teams in the others
Thanks, i thought they were allowed 2 teams but that was only for European teams.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:16 pm
by Goobs
Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Rankings
Uruguay 21
Egypt 31
Saudi Arabia 63
Russia 65
I hope all three give Russia a beating but it being the corrupt World Cup I bet they make the semi-finals at least.
Just like back in 2002 when South Korea suddenly became the 4th best team on the planet for 2 weeks

Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:16 pm
by Steve1956
Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Rankings
Uruguay 21
Egypt 31
Saudi Arabia 63
Russia 65
I hope all three give Russia a beating but it being the corrupt World Cup I bet they make the semi-finals at least.

Russia must be really crap with those three rated better than them FIFA THE MOST CORRUPT ORGANIZATION ON THE PLANET!
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:17 pm
by Paul Waine
Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Rankings
Uruguay 21
Egypt 31
Saudi Arabia 63
Russia 65
I hope all three give Russia a beating but it being the corrupt World Cup I bet they make the semi-finals at least.
Hi C-T-Rex, I haven't checked the rankings, but isn't the question who had the lowest rankings in the 3 pots?
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:21 pm
by FactualFrank
I think if we get enough luck we can reach the Quarter Finals. But I can't see us going any further than that. Last 16 knockout it also very realistic.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:24 pm
by Roosterbooster
JBG v Messi!!!
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:28 pm
by Woodleyclaret
Belgium are a good side and a good bet for the semis.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:46 pm
by Belgianclaret
Woodleyclaret wrote:Belgium are a good side and a good bet for the semis.
Belgium and England should progress from this group, but will face Brazil or Germany in the quarters.
Will be very difficult for either Belgium or England to make it to the semis.
I stick to my view that Belgium has a lot of talent, but lack a decent defense, team spirit and grit to make it to the top (unless they appoint the ginger mourinho of course)

Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:49 pm
by TractorFace
I'll probably support Belgium rather than boring England. I have a very good family reason for doing so. My great-grandma loved Belgium chocolate.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:50 pm
by JohnMac
How refreshing to watch a simple no frills gadget free (and crook free ) draw.
Gary Lineaker did a sterling job co-hosting and his dig at 'The Hand of God' Diego was sublime.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:57 pm
by JohnMac
Goobs wrote:Just like back in 2002 when South Korea suddenly became the 4th best team on the planet for 2 weeks

That might have something to do with them training together for 3 months or so under Guus Hiddink prior to the tournement.
It can't have been due to any dubious disallowed goals or a controversial sending off surely

Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:03 pm
by RingoMcCartney
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Talking about rankings. Here's the current one for club sides all across Europe.
Where's Blackburn!
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:43 pm
by Belgianclaret
Be more than happy to get revenge for that flukey goal by Platt in 1990

Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:48 pm
by Goobs
Not even top 100? DYCHE OUT!

Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:50 pm
by Goobs
Belgianclaret wrote:Be more than happy to get revenge for that flukey goal by Platt in 1990

Was a great goal and one of my earliest England memories.
Remember Enzo Scifo being quality in that world cup too, whatever happened to him?
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:39 pm
by Claretpete
Southgate is a loser, why is he afraid of Belgium, cos he ain’t got a f**kin clue
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:56 am
by cricketfieldclarets
Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Rankings
Uruguay 21
Egypt 31
Saudi Arabia 63
Russia 65
I hope all three give Russia a beating but it being the corrupt World Cup I bet they make the semi-finals at least.
Rankings aside russia are easily the second best side in the group. At least.
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:32 pm
by Paul Waine
Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Rankings
Uruguay 21
Egypt 31
Saudi Arabia 63
Russia 65
I hope all three give Russia a beating but it being the corrupt World Cup I bet they make the semi-finals at least.
Today's Times has calculated the average rankings for each group. I've listed from highest to lowest average ranking.
Group A (Russia): 45
Group G (Belgium): 25.75
Group H (Poland): 24.50
Group F (Germany): 23.50
Group D (Argentina): 23.25
Group B (Portugal): 20.25
Group E (Brazil): 18.25
Group C (France): 17.75
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:39 pm
by Tribesmen
Still so upset and don't want to even think about the World Cup
Re: World Cup 2018 Draw - Today 3pm
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:28 pm
by Pstotto
The ghost of Emanuel Kant is busy doing the transcendental numbers for the England v. Belgium match.
Korea Republic?????? It's a bit foreign isn't it?