If it be your will wrote:Just looking up the figures, looks like Momentum spent just under £100,000 (Total spend in 2015 by all parties was £37m for comparison). There are 2 issues, first, did they have Labour's permission to spend more than £31,000, and have they listed every donor that provided more than £200. Hardly a subversion of democracy.

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I must say, it is astonishing to think the influence they had on the election considering their spend probably represented considerably less than 0.5% of total spending by all parties. It really is a brilliant organisation, is Momentum.

If it be your will wrote:Nice try Imploding Turtle! You know as well as I do that the investigation absolutely will find irregularities, and the press will be all over it when they do, even though those irregularities will be ridiculously minor and almost entirely a result of administrative mishaps.

So long as they don't get fined £70,000 like the Conservatives just have, they'll be okay (as we can clearly see from the above, this amount would bankrupt them).

If it be your will wrote:What have you got against Momentum anyway? A clever, independently thinking chap like yourself? You should be a member. Should you, or indeed anyone else, like to join this grassroots organisation attempting to break away from the cynical politics of the last 2 decades, you can join here (and everyone is welcome):

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(I must admit, I'm having a right laugh with this thread)

If it be your will wrote:I thought post 11 was setting them up to fail (when the Electoral Commission do indeed eventually find something minor amiss). You can be smart with your posts in this way - I've seen you do it loads of times on here. So are you going to join Momentum then or what?

If it be your will wrote: It got a bit tense back then, but we're all friends now.

Right_winger wrote:Momentum are nothing but left wing extremists.

If it be your will wrote:Well there's that, but there's also the requirements of brick throwing and making banners about hanging people. Also, posters of Pol Pot in every room of your house is mandatory, as is wearing balaclavas and chucking petrol bombs about. But having spent the morning doing that, you then have to switch completely and spend the afternoon smoking excessive amounts of pot and hugging trees, and thinking of new and inventive ways of displaying the peace sign whilst playing a citar. Of course, any form of paid work is out of the question, and all property is to be considered theft. You also absolutely have to have been born to upper middle-class parents and be privately educated in Islington, but then all 12.9m Labour voters already qualify for that, so that's a given.

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Right_winger wrote:Momentum are nothing but left wing extremists.

If it be your will wrote:I think every sensible person, yourself included, has realised by now that's not what Momentum ever was. So there's little point using that line of attack anymore.

If it be your will wrote:Yes, I saw this and had a bit of a laugh about it as well. Momentum simply don't have enough money to commit serious wrongdoing! Unfortunately they don't have enough money to iron out every minor administrative mishap, either.

ClaretMoffitt wrote:You don't need to spend much if your main tactics are just to threaten mps on twitter

Imploding Turtle wrote:"Better than killing them"

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Not what they were about, sure. But you can't deny that a significant segment of their membership routinely used these intimidation and bullying tactics during the leadership contest.

AndrewJB wrote:Talk about pulling a number (in this case 'significant segment') from the air, or elsewhere. Corbyn's leadership contests were characterised by big enthusiastic crowds, and a lot of bile from the mainstream media. If we're talking about bullying tactics, there's no question that the Sun, Daily Mail, Telegraph, Express, and Conservative Party members have engaged in far more of that when it comes to attacking Jeremy Corbyn than all of Momentum's membership put together. It's just hilarious that it all backfired on them.

RighteousClaret wrote:No, it doesn't.