Centre Backs

BeijingClaret · Post by **BeijingClaret** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:44 pm

Just before Arfields goal I think Tarks appeared to have pulled something and I honestly feared the worse. We desperately need another centre half as 3 is not enough. Suggestions who though?

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:52 pm

Michael Keane.

£5m in january should do it.

Selby Claret · Post by **Selby Claret** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:18 am

Scott Dann
Alfie Mawson
Aden Flint
Michael Keane (if desperate)

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:26 am

Really can't see MK sat on his arse behind Mee and Tarks.

pauliopaulio · Post by **pauliopaulio** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:28 am

Agree. I was thinking this today when I saw the bench and Taylor was the only defender. We have done really well having a conveyer belt of replacements, hopefully we'll see the same in January.

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:28 am

Colin Waldron was decent.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:48 am

Fair comment, but for all the panicking about Keane’s departure and the plaudits that he and Mee rightly received last season, it’s worth remembering that we won a Premier League game without either of them today.

Who’d have thought that a few months ago???

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:50 am

Selby Claret wrote:Scott Dann
Alfie Mawson
Aden Flint
Michael Keane (if desperate)

I bet dann was on 40k a week at rovers, and left for prem football and a hefty wage increase.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:51 am

He left to get away from your sh!t hole of a town.

At any cost.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:52 am

Saxoman wrote:I bet dann was on 40k a week at rovers, and left for prem football and a hefty wage increase.

But think about it from his POV.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:53 am

Wouldn’t have him at the Turf anyway. Over-rated and accident-prone.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:54 am

scouseclaret wrote:Fair comment, but for all the panicking about Keane’s departure and the plaudits that he and Mee rightly received last season, it’s worth remembering that we won a Premier League game without either of them today.

Who’d have thought that a few months ago???

Did we not win last season without them? I know Tark played at Palace but I can't remember who with?

ClaretLoup · Post by **ClaretLoup** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:00 am

Tarks partnered Keane at Palace where they both had outstanding games.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:02 am

KRBFC wrote:Did we not win last season without them? I know Tark played at Palace but I can't remember who with?

Keane, Mee was injured

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:07 am

scouseclaret wrote:Wouldn’t have him at the Turf anyway. Over-rated and accident-prone.

Yes.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:50 am

Lewis Dunk, anyone?

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:54 am

boatshed bill wrote:Lewis Dunk, anyone?

No chance.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:08 am

taio wrote:No chance.

I rate him.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:10 am

boatshed bill wrote:I rate him.

So do I. Just that there's no chance theyd sell him to us next month.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:12 am

boatshed bill wrote:I rate him.

Everytime I have watched Brighton their Centre Halves are poor, usually after being built up to be world beaters.

AlwaysClaret · Post by **AlwaysClaret** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:56 am

Watched Bristol City yesterday and was impressed with aden Flint, big, strong,mobile and looked decent on the ball.
Once he has been through the Dyche treatment would be a very good option.

would not cost a fortune either.

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Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:10 pm

AlwaysClaret wrote:Watched Bristol City yesterday and was impressed with aden Flint, big, strong,mobile and looked decent on the ball.
Once he has been through the Dyche treatment would be a very good option.

would not cost a fortune either.

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too slow for me, he's just a big lad

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:47 pm

Nedum Onuaha linked today....or is that Nedum O'Nooha

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:34 pm

Wouldn't be surprised if we did bring in another centre-half.
Would provide us with full cover which we seem to have in most other positions.
Nedum Onuoha might well be the man.
Plenty of experience at our level and may have 2/3 seasons left in him.
Shouldn't cost too much either (3-4m?)

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:47 pm

Hes out of contract in the summer and is virtually the last of QPRs big earners so they need to move him out.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:41 pm

He'd not be top of anyone's wanted list, but in terms of someone to come in and be extra cover at centre back from January, capable of playing anywhere across the backline, he's not a ridiculous option at all - he'd make a lot of sense. I know a few people who know him well and by all accounts he's a really nice bloke too - the sort you can imagine would fit right in with our ethos.

Its going to be a tricky one bringing in a centre back - much like 12 months ago, with Keane, Tarks and Mee are so well established that anyone we sign is realistically going to have to accept they start as back up - and not necessarily first reserve given the regard Long is evidently held in. So its either a kid, or someone of an age who is comfortable with the idea they'll be part of a squad.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:06 pm

I was really impressed by Kevin Long's performance yesterday.
I believe that we could find and polish another up and coming defender any time we wanted to.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:26 pm

Thought we had the ability to call upon Mr Taylor, if we needed another centre back?

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:30 pm

IanMcL wrote:Thought we had the ability to call upon Mr Taylor, if we needed another centre back?

We still need to bring one more CB into the squad, Ian, whether we have a developing player good enough, or need to sign another top defender, I don't know.
If Ward got injured today, given who was available, we'd have no more defenders even for the bench on Tuesday.
I think we'll move for another defender in the window.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:43 pm

Mee will be availale for Tuesday. Lowton not fat away. Cork can play centre back too.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:49 pm

IanMcL wrote:Mee will be availale for Tuesday. Lowton not fat away. Cork can play centre back too.

It would be a desperate measure to move Cork.
We really need to bring in another CB.
I was hoping young Flowers could make the grade, if only because I can vaguely remember how good his grandfather was.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:57 pm

Cork would be unlikely to be called upon. Just there as a possibility.

How is Anderson performing? He was included pre season, before going on loan.

It probably depends on a bargain becoming available. Not desperate. We have gone through Championship seasons with less!

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:01 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Nedum Onuaha linked today....or is that Nedum O'Nooha

I'd rather play Vokes at CB than Nedum Onuaha

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:15 pm

IanMcL wrote:Cork would be unlikely to be called upon. Just there as a possibility.

How is Anderson performing? He was included pre season, before going on loan.

It probably depends on a bargain becoming available. Not desperate. We have gone through Championship seasons with less!

Anderson is virtually ever-present for Port Vale

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:16 pm

Bit to go for him then!

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:21 pm

IanMcL wrote:Bit to go for him then!

It would be a giant leap.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:28 pm

boatshed bill wrote:It would be a giant leap.

Not so big for him, perhaps...He is very tall!

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:40 pm

As a cheap option would be looking at Ragnar Sigursson from Fulham at loan at Rubin Kazan. Would be cheap and we know the Icelanders are disciplined. Whoever we bring in will be 3rd at best but probably 4th choice.

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:41 pm

AlwaysClaret wrote:Watched Bristol City yesterday and was impressed with aden Flint, big, strong,mobile and looked decent on the ball.
Once he has been through the Dyche treatment would be a very good option.

would not cost a fortune either.

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Like him also but clubs were told 15m plus in the summer so a no for me for a third at best choice centre back

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:45 pm

Clearly yesterday showed we need abother CB if we weren't already aware. Obviously most are but it just became a reality.

Long did well enough and fortunately Mee's injury isn't by any means a bad one but not to have back up on the bench at this level is pretty poor.

Our position of strength has made this significantly less of a concern as we're not in a relegation battle but needs to be addressed in January.