If we finish 7th....

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:37 pm

What do we need to happen to qualify for the Europa League? Do we need the Europa League, Champs League and FA Cup to all be won by the top 6 clubs?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:40 pm

I think it just needs to be the domestic cups by a team who finishes in the top 6.

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:41 pm

Hoping for a Man City treble then

Wexford_Claret · Post by **Wexford_Claret** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:45 pm

Imagine...

Oof.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:49 pm

Just hope Bristol lose their Semi and we finish top 7.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:50 pm

Just need the FA Cup and League cup to go to a team playing in Europe and we'd qualify. Europa league result makes no difference.

SandyLaneClaret · Post by **SandyLaneClaret** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:57 pm

Inchy wrote:Hoping for a Man City treble then

Unfortunately they have a tough 3rd round draw.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:02 pm

We'll win the FA cup anyway.

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:14 pm

We're all going on a European tour, European tour, European tour.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:23 pm

KRBFC wrote:What do we need to happen to qualify for the Europa League? Do we need the Europa League, Champs League and FA Cup to all be won by the top 6 clubs?

Not to bothered unless some one brings some cheap baccy home.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:24 pm

If we finish 7th it will be the greatest achievement in Burnley Football Club history, Europe or not.

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:25 pm

Worst thing about finishing 7th would be qualifying for Europe!!!

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:26 pm

burnley007 wrote:Worst thing about finishing 7th would be qualifying for Europe!!!

Wheres the dislike button?!

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:30 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:If we finish 7th it will be the greatest achievement in Burnley Football Club history, Europe or not.

I agree with your point but think the wording is slightly wrong our greatest acheivement is probably the 1914 FA cup win - given the occasion and the significance of The FA Cup in 1914 or our first Championship win in 1920/21.

But finishing 7th this season would probably be the most difficult thing we've acheived.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:33 pm

burnley007 wrote:Worst thing about finishing 7th would be qualifying for Europe!!!

Unless we win FA Cup too which would mean automatic qualification for group stages rather than possibly starting off at the 2nd round qualifying stage.

nonayclaret · Post by **nonayclaret** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:39 pm

Long way to go, but if we do...get yer little blue passport and get chanting over there

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:13 pm

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;–19_UEFA_Champions_League

As this season the EL winners are guaranteed CL. England has 4 reps through co-efficient, giving possibility of 5 in total. If Arsenal were to win EL.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;–19_UEFA_Europa_League

England have 3 reps in EL. Therefore 4 into CL and 3 into EL guarantees 7th a place in EL.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:13 pm

Leicester and Everton dropped points in winnable games today they would have expected us to lose so a decent day.With our points advantage we have every chance of being 7th when Big Ben chimes in 2018,plus we have played most of the top half away and we have players returning.Every incentive to crack on in 2018.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:17 pm

nonayclaret wrote:Long way to go, but if we do...get yer little blue passport and get chanting over there

I think we can hold on to our claret passports - until we've had them 10 years.

In fact I think mine runs out next year, so I'll have another 10 years of a claret passport touring Europe with Burnley FC.

I'm holding Sean Dyche to his promise to keep the club "moving forward."

UTC

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:21 pm

The only downside to the Europa league.....lots of Sunday matches!

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:44 pm

piston broke wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018–19 ... ons_League

As this season the EL winners are guaranteed CL. England has 4 reps through co-efficient, giving possibility of 5 in total. If Arsenal were to win EL.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;–19_UEFA_Europa_League

England have 3 reps in EL. Therefore 4 into CL and 3 into EL guarantees 7th a place in EL.

So with a 7th placed finish we're guaranteed a place in the EL even if Barnsley won the FA Cup and Spanish teams won both European competitions?

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:34 am

Not too bothered about getting into Europe as that could really stretch us
in terms of depth of squad and number of games you may have to play.
More important to me is the extra money we may have coming in if we do manage to
finish 7 or 8th.

It could give us an additional 15m or so to add to the coffers if invested wisely could bring
us in one, possibly two players to help us strengthen the squad.
We'd need that as absolute minimum if we per chance we did qualify for Europe

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:38 am

KRBFC wrote:So with a 7th placed finish we're guaranteed a place in the EL even if Barnsley won the FA Cup and Spanish teams won both European competitions?

I didn't read down that far.

LS7 · Post by **LS7** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:41 am

The San Siro beckons, I just know it does.

BeijingClaret · Post by **BeijingClaret** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:35 am

LS7 wrote:The San Siro beckons, I just know it does.

Inter look like they might get in champions league and ac Milan aren’t getting in anything at the moment

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:41 am

How many knockout rounds are there before the group stages of the Europa league?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:57 am

I am set on Champions League this season.

turfytopper · Post by **turfytopper** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:35 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:If we finish 7th it will be the greatest achievement in Burnley Football Club history, Europe or not.

I would have to agree. In this modern age the disparity in finance would make it a greater achievement(finishing 7th in May) than winning either of our two top flight championships.

Man of Kent · Post by **Man of Kent** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:01 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:If we finish 7th it will be the greatest achievement in Burnley Football Club history, Europe or not.

Oh really? Greater than the 1960 First Division Championship? The resulting run of games in Europe? The 1962 FA Cup Final? The 1914 cup final?
History lesson required.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:08 pm

Man of Kent, and the 1920-21 season, too. My grandad would always remind me of 'his' team of Halley, Boyle and Watson.

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:14 pm

Will you finally acknowledge that Sean Dyche is the best thing that's happened to Burnley Football Club since the abolition of the Maximum wage?!

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:20 pm

I believe we can finish seventh. I'm not saying we will but that I believe it is not beyond our lads.

When you think we played at OT with just one (Ben) of our regular defence, Tom included, and an advocate of defensive football says:

“I’m very happy with their [United's players'] character and part of that was also the way they played and tried to break down a very organised wall. I keep saying that to defend well is a quality and they defended very well. So also credit to Burnley to concede only two goals against such strong pressure.”

It is so, so much about our squad and then the eleven lads who start the game (plus subs). Non-Clarets will look for our leading goalscorer and see Chris Wood with four goals. They'll think "How can they be seventh?". Therein lies our strength. We have a significant number of contributors to our goal tally. If we did have a player who could score one in two/two and a half we'd be pushing for sixth. Chris Wood might still prove to be the man. He's been hindered by injuries and if he can get back to full fitness he could well start scoring more.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:24 pm

Man of Kent wrote:Oh really? Greater than the 1960 First Division Championship? The resulting run of games in Europe? The 1962 FA Cup Final? The 1914 cup final?
History lesson required.

No history lesson required. I personally believe that finishing 7th in the modern era when there is such a gulf in the resources available would rank as a greater achievement than winning the league in an era when the playing field was much more level and we were regularly challenging to win it.

dibraidio · Post by **dibraidio** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:33 pm

Still performing with Heaton, Lowton, Tarks, Ward, Brady and Wood all missing! Just shows how far we've come.
If we're still up there on February 3rd when we'll have played Spurs, Man Utd, Liverpool and Man City both home and away then I'll start to believe it.

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:59 pm

If we qualify for Europe I wouldn’t care if it would stretch the squad. When was the last time we played in Europe? We should embrace it, accept that it may affect our champions league ambitions next season, and crack on. If we win it we will qualify for the champs league anyway

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:21 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote:Will you finally acknowledge that Sean Dyche is the best thing that's happened to Burnley Football Club since the abolition of the Maximum wage?!

Surely everything has been better for Burnley than the abolition of the maximum wage? That single deed sent us and every other town club into decline.

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:37 am

IanMcL wrote:Surely everything has been better for Burnley than the abolition of the maximum wage? That single deed sent us and every other town club into decline.

I did not mean that the abolition of the maximum wage wage a good thing although it does looks like tat is what I meant.

You are right. The abolition of the maximum wage was the catalyst for everything that followed and Bob Lord saw that coming.

What I meant was that SD is the best thing that has happened since that era.

I wonder when the SD detractors will finally eat their words!

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:39 am

I'd be willing and able to arrange packages for people if we end up with a Czech away trip

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:57 am

If, and for the moment it's a big "if", we were to play in the EL with SD still manager, I'm convinced he would put out his best team. It would be wrong not to. I'm fully aware of the risk of burnout but it would be ridiculous to have refound European football and then "devalue" our participation.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:52 pm

If I was a player who had won his way to the Champs League, I would be bit miffed if I did not get to play on the big stage.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:05 pm

How many would take the CL or EL followed by relegation?
I wouldn't. This is a growth business. European football needs backing up with a bigger squad on higher wages. Then the problems begin. Let's just build slowly and hang around for many years.

Sorry to be a killjoy.

BFCeltic1978 · Post by **BFCeltic1978** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:06 pm

My take on qualifying for Europe would be a further reason for Sean to stay on next year. There is no doubt other clubs will come calling at the end of the season, further progression, European football, another platform for Sean to develop his experience. Added together, and a nice bonus cheque, why would Sean leave.