Aaron Lennon

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:08 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Matter of opinion.
In 8th position we have the chance to bring in some fresh young players.
We weren't put in 4th position by playing Walters, Bardsley or Wells.

What or whom do you mean by "fresh young players"?

Who are these players that would get us in the top four?

You do realise that Aaron Lennon is 30?

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:15 pm

fidelcastro wrote:What or whom do you mean by "fresh young players"?

Who are these players that would get us in the top four?

You do realise that Aaron Lennon is 30?

What i mean is young players of whom I'm sure our scouts are aware. Apparently we enquired about Worrall recently.
Short-term fixes are expensive and have no sell on value.
Our best first eleven got us up to 4th for a week. Our current team keep failing, through no fault of their own I have to say, too many injuries.

I can see little point in paying money for Lennon now we have Nkoudou

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:19 pm

boatshed bill wrote:What i mean is young players of whom I'm sure our scouts are aware. Apparently we enquired about Worrall recently.
Short-term fixes are expensive and have no sell on value.
Our best first eleven got us up to 4th for a week. Our current team keep failing, through no fault of their own I have to say, too many injuries.

I can see little point in paying money for Lennon now we have Nkoudou

Nkoudou is only on loan though. As for Worrall, I don't think anyone would be expecting him to tear up the Premier League.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:21 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Nkoudou is only on loan though. As for Worrall, I don't think anyone would be expecting him to tear up the Premier League.

But Nkoudou is the sort of player we should be trying to sign.
Worrall would start as back-up, just like Tarks was. Apparently, though, we are not prepared to meet Forest's valuation.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:26 pm

boatshed bill wrote:But Nkoudou is the sort of player we should be trying to sign.
Worrall would start as back-up, just like Tarks was. Apparently, though, we are not prepared to meet Forest's valuation.

Who knows? Maybe we will try and sign Nkoudou, if his loan is successful. It makes sense to get him on loan, given he hasn't played much football in the last 18 months.

I don't know much about Worrall, but if you're expecting us to challenge for the top four again, then I don't understand the point you're making by suggesting a player with no PL experience.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:29 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Who knows? Maybe we will try and sign Nkoudou, if his loan is successful. It makes sense to get him on loan, given he hasn't played much football in the last 18 months.

I don't know much about Worrall, but if you're expecting us to challenge for the top four again, then I don't understand the point you're making by suggesting a player with no PL experience.

it would make sense to bring in a young centre-back before we actually need him.
Tarks and Ben Mee are nailed on first choices so any new defender would be back-up, with time to learn what SD expects.

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:32 pm

We could definitely do with bringing in another wide man and the links with Lennon would seem to support the view that the club agrees. After temporarily loosing Brady and Walters our options for refreshing and rotating our wide players have decreased. The recent addition of N'Koudou on loan was a good piece of business, but I still think we need one more. At the very least an extra body in the mix would allow us to field Arfield as another option to Hendrick as a CAM. Granted, we can do that at the moment, but with the injury niggles we are picking up we don't have a lot of depth left.

If we are interested in Lennon I suspect any delay is down to ongoing contract negotiations relating to salary and length of contract. Other teams could have put in offers, but given his circumstances we represent the best option for him by a wide margin. A positive environment that is overflowing with good characters vs the toxic cloud hovering around a club like Newcastle and it really should be a no brainer. And that doesn't take into account the pronounced possibility of a relegation battle at some of the other clubs who might be interested in securing his services.

All told, when it comes to peace of mind and the right environment to enjoy his football in a supportive atmosphere we shouldn't really have any competition for his signature. Which makes any delay in putting pen to paper a little worrying. We seemed to put quite a lot of our eggs in a Lennon shaped basket during the last window and that came to naught. It would be a shame to see the same thing happen again.

I would be very happy to see Aaron sign for us on a 2 yr contract. I really think it would be the best option for everybody concerned, him and us. However, when we take into account the fickle nature of transfer dealings it would be risky if he is our only iron in the fire.

Stoke are rumoured to be expressing an interest in Jack Harrison according to the Stoke Sentinel and he could be a player we might consider as Plan B, although it is a little late in the day to consider him if we haven't been looking at him already.

http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/fo ... on-1097256" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://outsideoftheboot.com/2017/09/28/ ... -harrison/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ideally, I would have liked to see us go for Steven Zuber in this window. West Ham where rumoured to be sniffing around him in the last window with an offer of around 10mil being mentioned. Fairly quick, decent shot, good defensively and he looks like a man of good character. I could only find very positive things being said about him on the interweb. He is very much in the LW/LB mould of Brady, but right footed, which would allow us to play Brady out on the right when he comes back.

Unfortunately he is having an excellent season at Hoffenheim and judging by the press releases from him and the club everyone is happy, making the possibility of him moving anywhere in this window a very low one. Still, he could one for the next window along with Jens Toornstra from Feyenoord who would make for a quality AM option that probably wouldn't break the bank.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:01 pm

Hendrickxz wrote:Get a sneaky feeling this one isn't going to happen.

Fingers crossed (not six by the way).

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:23 am

I still can't believe people don't want Aaron Lennon. It's just mind boggling. We all want us to unearth the next Keane or Tarky but you also need to consider the here and now. There were some who complained when we signed Jack Cork because he wasn't one for the future and we were unlikely to get our money back - how has that worked out!? We need a mix of players including experienced PL players ready to go immediately. He'd be a brilliant signing for us and would send a message to others about how far we've come.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:26 am

Medical today

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:30 am

Long Time Lurker wrote:We could definitely do with bringing in another wide man and the links with Lennon would seem to support the view that the club agrees. After temporarily loosing Brady and Walters our options for refreshing and rotating our wide players have decreased. The recent addition of N'Koudou on loan was a good piece of business, but I still think we need one more. At the very least an extra body in the mix would allow us to field Arfield as another option to Hendrick as a CAM. Granted, we can do that at the moment, but with the injury niggles we are picking up we don't have a lot of depth left.

If we are interested in Lennon I suspect any delay is down to ongoing contract negotiations relating to salary and length of contract. Other teams could have put in offers, but given his circumstances we represent the best option for him by a wide margin. A positive environment that is overflowing with good characters vs the toxic cloud hovering around a club like Newcastle and it really should be a no brainer. And that doesn't take into account the pronounced possibility of a relegation battle at some of the other clubs who might be interested in securing his services.

All told, when it comes to peace of mind and the right environment to enjoy his football in a supportive atmosphere we shouldn't really have any competition for his signature. Which makes any delay in putting pen to paper a little worrying. We seemed to put quite a lot of our eggs in a Lennon shaped basket during the last window and that came to naught. It would be a shame to see the same thing happen again.

I would be very happy to see Aaron sign for us on a 2 yr contract. I really think it would be the best option for everybody concerned, him and us. However, when we take into account the fickle nature of transfer dealings it would be risky if he is our only iron in the fire.

Stoke are rumoured to be expressing an interest in Jack Harrison according to the Stoke Sentinel and he could be a player we might consider as Plan B, although it is a little late in the day to consider him if we haven't been looking at him already.

http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/fo ... on-1097256" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://outsideoftheboot.com/2017/09/28/ ... -harrison/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ideally, I would have liked to see us go for Steven Zuber in this window. West Ham where rumoured to be sniffing around him in the last window with an offer of around 10mil being mentioned. Fairly quick, decent shot, good defensively and he looks like a man of good character. I could only find very positive things being said about him on the interweb. He is very much in the LW/LB mould of Brady, but right footed, which would allow us to play Brady out on the right when he comes back.

Unfortunately he is having an excellent season at Hoffenheim and judging by the press releases from him and the club everyone is happy, making the possibility of him moving anywhere in this window a very low one. Still, he could one for the next window along with Jens Toornstra from Feyenoord who would make for a quality AM option that probably wouldn't break the bank.

I have a few mates who are season ticket holders at Hoffenheim they reckon Zubes isn’t ready for the Premier League.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:55 am

Anybody know whats happening with lennon ?

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:57 am

Reecey1987 wrote:Anybody know whats happening with lennon ?

As stated earlier, medical today

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:58 am

Grumps wrote:As stated earlier, medical today

Sorry never seen it . Thanks for the reply

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:40 am

'Jens Toornstra from Feyernoord'

My friend,a massive Feyernoord' fan for the last few years, doesn't see 'Jensy' as a Dyche-type player. Sees him more of a CHM who tends to go 'missing' at times but certainly one to keep an eye on. Newcastle supposedly showing interest.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:48 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:I have a few mates who are season ticket holders at Hoffenheim they reckon Zubes isn’t ready for the Premier League.

Who did they support before Hoffenheim?

They've only been playing professional football for a decade.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:52 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:Who did they support before Hoffenheim?

They've only been playing professional football for a decade.

I was thinking that too

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:13 am

On the subject of Lennon’s medical - seen arriving for it on SSN.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:15 am

ClaretTony wrote:On the subject of Lennon’s medical - seen arriving for it on SSN.

Is that in Manchester?

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:24 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:Who did they support before Hoffenheim?

They've only been playing professional football for a decade.

They’d watch anyone pre Hoff they just ruddy love their football. Anyway be interesting to see where Zubes ends up.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:27 am

Spijed wrote:Is that in Manchester?

Aren't all of our medicals done in Manchester?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:30 am

Medicals take place here:

http://www.mihp.co.uk/

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:54 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:Who did they support before Hoffenheim?

They've only been playing professional football for a decade.

Not sure on the relevance of your post.... Unless you're just genuinely interested in who they used to support?

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:55 am

It's near Man City's ground. I think they financed it along with Manchester Council.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:57 am

Jakubs Tash wrote:Not sure on the relevance of your post.... Unless you're just genuinely interested in who they used to support?

It's like suddenly supporting Padiham if a multi millionaire ploughed his money into them and they got to the PL in successive promotions.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:59 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:Medicals take place here:

http://www.mihp.co.uk/

After Aaron Lennon I hope we get another couple of players visiting there for medicals before the window shuts

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:01 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:It's like suddenly supporting Padiham if a multi millionaire plowed his money into them and they got to the PL in successive promotions.

Aye, that's what tends to happen with newly formed clubs. They average over 28k so quite a few of them....

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:14 am

Jakubs Tash wrote:Aye, that's what tends to happen with newly formed clubs. They average over 28k so quite a few of them....

Glory supporters, the lot of them.

TomtheClaret · Post by **TomtheClaret** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:29 am

My brother was In Newcastle for a stag doo this past weekend. A lot of Newcastle fans "In the know after 10 pints of ale" saying Lennon had asked for weekend to think about it. But was waiting for Newcastle to make a offer.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:44 am

TomtheClaret wrote:My brother was In Newcastle for a stag doo this past weekend. A lot of Newcastle fans "In the know after 10 pints of ale" saying Lennon had asked for weekend to think about it. But was waiting for Newcastle to make a offer.

that'll be the brown ale disbelief that lil ol' Burnley can attract players of his calibre over the Mighty Toon Army...

TomtheClaret · Post by **TomtheClaret** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:57 am

Rick_Muller wrote:that'll be the brown ale disbelief that lil ol' Burnley can attract players of his calibre over the Mighty Toon Army...

Remind me of Leeds. I was there in December kept telling me we always take on there shite players.

I just said Ian Moore and walked off

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:16 pm

Spijed wrote:Is that in Manchester?

Was just rushing out but we do our medicals at the place at Man City now. Not sure how long we’ve used it but the Hendrick medical was definitely done there.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:21 pm

Better than the Bob Lord steps

TomtheClaret · Post by **TomtheClaret** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:22 pm

Not being funny. But do medicals include mental health assessments? Regardless of past issues?

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:33 pm

Is he definitely having his medical then?

Press don’t seem to know what’s going on.

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... -1-8972358" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Stickers · Post by **Stickers** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:36 pm

TomtheClaret wrote:Not being funny. But do medicals include mental health assessments? Regardless of past issues?

And a social media assessment

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:37 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:Is he definitely having his medical then?

Press don’t seem to know what’s going on.

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... -1-8972358" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Somebody further up said it showed him on SSN having a medical - but not sure if that meant SSN actually showed him walking into the building, or it was just an 'understands' bit of fluff.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:38 pm

TomtheClaret wrote:Not being funny. But do medicals include mental health assessments? Regardless of past issues?

What I imagine will be a problem for Burnley will be insurance. Ask anyone with a history of depression what it is like trying to get even holiday insurance. we had a hell of a job a few years ago and it cost about 500% more than the basic one for someone with no issues.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:39 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Somebody further up said it showed him on SSN having a medical - but not sure if that meant SSN actually showed him walking into the building, or it was just an 'understands' bit of fluff.

Things don’t normally take this long.

Feels abit like the Grosiki deal, I’ve got a bad feeling it’s not going to come off.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:52 pm

mkmel wrote:After Aaron Lennon I hope we get another couple of players visiting there for medicals before the window shuts

Couldn`t they just ring the bell and walk in through the front door?

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:59 pm

It showed him getting out of the car on SSN and walking into the centre for his medical. Also, there was a video showing the medical for the Walters transfer and this shows how thorough medicals are these days - they don't just get on a treadmill for 10 minutes!

I expect he will officially be announced sometime this afternoon.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:01 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:Things don’t normally take this long.

they can and often do. nothing to worry about.
pretty sure it will all be sorted soon.

MarkGreen · Post by **MarkGreen** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:01 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:Things don’t normally take this long.

Feels abit like the Grosiki deal, I’ve got a bad feeling it’s not going to come off.

Why dont they take this long? Medicals are a full day jobby!

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:02 pm

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Couldn`t they just ring the bell and walk in through the front door?

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:03 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:Is he definitely having his medical then?

Press don’t seem to know what’s going on.

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... -1-8972358" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Do the burnley express ever know what's going on? Only ever know what the club want them to know and will only report what Bentley tells them they can, Boden doesn't want to spoil his relationship with the club, just to bring fans some news.

TomtheClaret · Post by **TomtheClaret** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:03 pm

Suggestion on Everton site, that he didn't have medical Friday or over weekend, as he had been suffering heavy cold or flu.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:56 pm

He's just left the medical center in Manchester

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:57 pm

...on crutches

ClaretFelix · Post by **ClaretFelix** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:25 pm

He's been in costa at Tesco. Says they deal hasn't been finalised yet but isn't far off

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:50 pm

ClaretFelix wrote:He's been seen with costa at Tesco. Says they deal hasn't been finalised yet but isn't far off

That'll explain the potential exits of Vokes and Barnes