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1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:04 pm
by steve1264b
HI Everyone
Im trying to post a pictured failing!
I hit attachment jpg uploads and there is a green tick.
Ami doing something wrong?
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:05 pm
by UpTheBeehole
I can see it!
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:11 pm
by steve1264b
finally
Does anyone know anything about the picture itself?
Notice there are 4men in white strips running the line.
Did we have 4 linesmen?
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:57 pm
by elwaclaret
Not seen that one before.... could it be an original photo? Might be worth showing it to the club (used to be Ray Simpson who looked after club history, but I must confess not sure who does it now, but others will)
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Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:14 pm
by Hipper
This site lists some of the early rule changes and use of referees. Notice in the picture that there is no 'D' on the edge of the penalty area:
http://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/who-we-a ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This site names two linesman:
https://playupliverpool.com/1914/04/25/ ... l-25-1914/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I've never heard of four linesman but the pictures shows the clearly.
It also offers some reports on the game which make good and interesting reading.
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:16 pm
by ClaretTony
elwaclaret wrote:Not seen that one before.... could it be an original photo?
I thought I'd seen that pic at some time but I might be mistaken.
What I have though is unique, a photograph of our two FA Cup Final goalscorers

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Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:18 pm
by Hipper
Some more info on the ref:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Bamlett" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:24 pm
by Hipper
Another picture:
http://www.soccer-history.co.uk/latest- ... burnley-fc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
.... and if you google FA Cup Final 1914 'images' you get a lot more including that one where spectators are standing on poles!
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:37 pm
by Dark Cloud
They have a large copy of the picture of spectators standing on poles (pieces of wood, not people from Poland) on the wall in the New Brewm in town. It's a fascinating pic and unbelievable they could balance up there and watch the match. I always think the tight buggers should have just bought a ticket like everyone else! (Maybe they were the cheap seats with "restricted view"!!)
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:12 pm
by mkmel
What was the attendance?
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:22 pm
by Royboyclaret
72,778.......Including Bert Freeman's dad who had travelled 13,000 miles from Australia for the match and saw his son score the winner.
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:38 pm
by Royboyclaret
Fantastic picture btw steve1264b.
Lucky enough to have a number of photos of the big day but never seen this one before. How did you obtain the picture, can I ask ?
Looks like it could be the moment that King George V arrived at the Pavilion, Crystal Palace before the match, he was the first reigning monarch to attend the FA Cup Final. Captains Boyle and Ferguson were introduced to the King in the Pavilion before the match and of course our Bert Freeman then went on to score the winner.
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:08 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Some great links on this thread!
I've never seen most.
Great stuff.
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:10 pm
by Diesel
I went.
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:28 pm
by steve1264b
Its not an original. Listed as 28 out of 200. Framed by nostalgia prints burnley.
Any ideas?
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:50 pm
by scouseclaret
Anyone know what the big rock-like thing behind the goal on the left is? Looks totally out of keeping with the rest of the landscape.
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:00 pm
by steve1264b
Also is the current crystal palace ground the same as the cup final one?
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:11 pm
by streeterpingfellow
scouseclaret wrote:Anyone know what the big rock-like thing behind the goal on the left is? Looks totally out of keeping with the rest of the landscape.
It was like a mountain themed railway attraction in the park.
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:12 pm
by ClaretTony
steve1264b wrote:Also is the current crystal palace ground the same as the cup final one?
Not the same place - the old Crystal Palace is the site of the National Athletics Stadium
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:14 pm
by ClaretTony
This photograph was taken at the centenary exhibition at Towneley almost four years ago. The lady who was visiting was Bert Freeman's daughter.

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Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:16 pm
by martin_p
ClaretTony wrote:Not the same place - the old Crystal Palace is the site of the National Athletics Stadium
Selhurst Park is a couple of miles away. But am I remembering it right that there were plans for Crystal Palace to move to the same site as the National Athletics Stadium.
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:22 pm
by ClaretTony
martin_p wrote:Selhurst Park is a couple of miles away. But am I remembering it right that there were plans for Crystal Palace to move to the same site as the National Athletics Stadium.
It is about two miles away, that will be around a three hour drive then.

There was certainly some discussion about potentially moving before they got back into the Premier League - around 2010-2012. Not sure what happened with it but they've now got plans to redevelop Selhurst.
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:31 pm
by streeterpingfellow
scouseclaret wrote:Anyone know what the big rock-like thing behind the goal on the left is? Looks totally out of keeping with the rest of the landscape.
You can see more of the mountain railway in these pics. I think they were quite popular attractions in this period.
Re: 1914 Cup Final picture
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:12 pm
by mikeS
More on The Clarets in the Cup up to 1914 in Road To Glory.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Road-Glory-Bur ... 1781486905" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;