Defour to see knee specialist....uh ohhhh

Both out at Newcastle by the looks of it, Defour one looks as though it could be longer term.

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Cork and Westwood in the middle then, we should be fine.

Hopefully one of the two new wingers starts to inject something into our attack.

Who is left intact?

Heaton
Ward
Tarkowski
Defour
Walters
Marney
Brady
Wood

That's a hell of an injury list

If neither of the two wingers do start, we could still field the same team that played Man City in the FA Cup earlier this month.

Any other season and we would be in a relegation battle with that injury list.

Groin problem?

There hasn't been a game for over a week.

He been bangin' too hard?

Tarkowski Defour Brady Wood Walters...some big misses in that list

Glad we’re on 34 points.

This is getting beyond the joke now ffs.

Dyche Fit eh?

gandhisflipflop wrote:This is getting beyond the joke now ffs.

Injuries happen - we've got away with it over recent years to a large extent. This is a bad run though.

Plenty of knee injuries it seems.

FactualFrank wrote:Plenty of knee injuries it seems.

Don't say that to loud, the bellends who tried blaming Dyche last time will be at it again

agreenwood wrote:Glad we’re on 34 points.

Glad my laptop has an off button.

“Tarkowski has a minor groin problem, he’s touch and go". Uh oh....

Tony his that why Tom Anderson is back we need him for cover time to bring people in on loan before it gets silly utc

Bugger

We haven't had a thread about training methods for a bit. Remember when we had that run of ACLs and it was down to Dyche training them too hard. Then we didn't have any for ages, that was down to Dyche's excellent training methods. Now we've got a few injuries, it's down to Dyche training them too hard.

Perhaps we should use the LET online as a guide to which players will be fit and available for selection?

Defour and Tarkowski both appear in interviews posted online Monday so obviously they have plenty of spare time as not training with the squad.

If Defour and Tarks are "touch and go" we'll be lucky to see them again this season! Joking aside our squad is looking incredibly thin now, if we had a few less points I might be getting a bit twitchy.

ClaretTony wrote:Heaton
Ward
Tarkowski
Defour
Walters
Marney
Brady
Wood

That's a hell of an injury list

and a hell of a lack of ambition in the market to try and replace them.

Injuries and suspensions can and will happen at most clubs, look at West Ham:

Michail Antonio, midfielder – calf injury.
Marko Arnautovic, attacker – thigh injury.
André Ayew, attacker – hamstring injury.
Andy Carroll, attacker – foot injury.
Edimilson Fernandes, midfielder – ankle injury.
José Fonte, defender – ankle injury.
Manuel Lanzini, midfielder – thigh injury.
Arthur Masuaku, defender – six game ban.
Mark Noble, midfielder – foot injury.
Pedro Obiang, midfielder – knee injury.
Winston Reid, defender – groin injury.

Beats ours I would say?

ClaretTony wrote:Injuries happen - we've got away with it over recent years to a large extent. This is a bad run though.

Agree with that. I think that coupled with the 'more signings unlikely' article has left me very frustrated to what otherwise has been a good window.

KRBFC wrote:and a hell of a lack of ambition in the market to try and replace them.

Who would you shift out now to make space?
Would you just sign players under a certain age?

KRBFC wrote:and a hell of a lack of ambition in the market to try and replace them.

You can't just go and do that and it hardly shows a lack of ambition. Some of those players will be back and playing long before the end of the season so they need to be in the squad that we send to the Premier League at the end of this week. Bringing in players to replace injured players like that leaves you with too many players which will make things very difficult going forward.

ClaretTony wrote:You can't just go and do that and it hardly shows a lack of ambition. Some of those players will be back and playing long before the end of the season so they need to be in the squad that we send to the Premier League at the end of this week. Bringing in players to replace injured players like that leaves you with too many players which will make things very difficult going forward.

Doesn't help that we will have 4 goalkeepers registered and taking up valuable squad places

Westwood straight in or switch to 4-4-2 if needs be. Aiden O'Neill as backup?

UpTheBeehole wrote:Doesn't help that we will have 4 goalkeepers registered and taking up valuable squad places

Doesn't, you are right, but you can't risk going long term with only two fit goalkeepers so we had to bring in another when Tom got injured. Completely different situation than outfield players.

Not good news if he has to see a specialist. Is O'Neill back now or still out on loan?

agreenwood wrote:Glad we’re on 34 points.

Starting to panic ag?

Drop Hendrick back, JBG just off Vokes with Lennon and N'Koudou out wide, Roberts your Dads brother: Newcastle 0 - Burnley 4

Westwood-Cork
Vokes-Barnes.
We’ve reached Total Football.

Lack of rotation > injuries > poor run of form. Westwood isn't the best player in the world but I'm sure he can manage more than the rare 10 minutes.

Skipton claret do you actually go to the games just checking with that formation you have only got 4 players we need 11 utc

Ulvestad
Legzdins (SP) can make space, and I am sure if need be there are a few others able to be shuffled around

Don't panic just yet, we are not exactly going to paint the picture of a rich, desperate and needy club when trying to do business are we...

If you discount some players for the squad such as Marney, Walters, Ulverstad, Legzdins and even Brady (if no chance of coming back this season), space could be made for up to 3 player additions

We currently have 4 keepers and only 3 CB's

GKN Hendrick Cork Westwood Lennon
JBG

Not sure anybody with sense is blaming Dyche for it but some things are a known problem.

One issue is that according to someone I know in the NHS, who is one of the UKs top Physio’s, many professional football teams concentrate to much on training in the sagittal plane of movement (e.g. a deadlift) and not enough in the transverse plane (e.g. a twisting punching motion when using a strong pulley). As a result their muscles are imbalanced and cannot handle it at a random time when they are twisting while landing, pop goes the cruciate or patella tendon. My guy also tells me that due to this imbalance, even a simple thing like a lunge a pro footballer can often not do correctly, which seems bizarre.

The second issue, one I know less about but have read online, is this thing about modern pitches not having enough “give” or moisture. Now BFC have the better training pitches maybe that’s a factor? Then again, you’re damned if you do and damned if you do not, not enough training due to waterlogged training pitches and the player may fatigue more in matches and get injuries that way.

So, no blame should be attached, but injury prevention is as much an art as getting points on the board - no club will do it perfectly, and all will make mistakes.

We also wasted squad positions by having 5 strikers when we only played 1 up front. Wells looks like a pointless signing in the current climate and I don't see a place for him if we pursue with 4-5-1(which we should)

jojomk1 wrote:If you discount some players for the squad such as Marney, Walters, Ulverstad, Legzdins and even Brady (if no chance of coming back this season), space could be made for up to 3 player additions

We currently have 4 keepers and only 3 CB's

I think we all agree that it would be good to have another centre back, but the goalkeeper situation is necessary because we only have three fit goalkeepers.

JimmyMac'sMate wrote:Skipton claret do you actually go to the games just checking with that formation you have only got 4 players we need 11 utc

11 ? Well I never...

I hope at least one of the 2 new widemen start on Wednesday for some creativity or it could be one ugly game.

Once of a day you could judge a squads strength by how good it's bench was. With us it's how good our treatment room is .

I was staggered about no new cb before I read that tarks was out. Now tbh i am disgusted. If defour is out long term surely we should be getting that elusive nr 10 and putting Geoff back where he is best.

When the going gets tough, the Tough get going!

UTC!!

SkiptonClaret wrote:11 ? Well I never...

Another one of them ridiculous new rules they’ve brought in.

Good to hear that Stephen Ward is now back in full training, who is such a key player for the Clarets. In fact I don't think we have won a league game since his last appearance.
Certainly one piece of positive news.

UpTheBeehole wrote:Doesn't help that we will have 4 goalkeepers registered and taking up valuable squad places

I mentioned on the squad list thread about our 4 keepers but until the two recent signings who were they keeping out?
The squad will be adjusted on Feb 1st and if Legzdins is still in we won't be seeing Tom this season.