Will Sean start Lennon or Nkoudou?

Mala591 · Post by **Mala591** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:38 am

Being more experienced Lennon more likely to start but he prefers the right wing, same as JBG. Will Sean try him on the left or will he give Nkoudou the nod as a natural left winger?

Another option is to start Lennon on the right and switch JBG to the left wing.

An interesting dilemma for SD who's 'safety first' instinct will be telling him to start with Arfield on the left and Hendrick behind Barnes.

Will be 'dissapointing' to see both new signings on the bench don't you think?

claretcarrot93 · Post by **claretcarrot93** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:39 am

Start them both and move JBG in behind Barnes/Vokes. Hendrick replaces defour with cork.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:40 am

We'll start as we did against City

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:44 am

claretcarrot93 wrote:Start them both and move JBG in behind Barnes/Vokes. Hendrick replaces defour with cork.

This ^^

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:48 am

Mala591 wrote:Being more experienced Lennon more likely to start but he prefers the right wing, same as JBG. Will Sean try him on the left or will he give Nkoudou the nod as a natural left winger?

Another option is to start Lennon on the right and switch JBG to the left wing.

An interesting dilemma for SD who's 'safety first' instinct will be telling him to start with Arfield on the left and Hendrick behind Barnes.

Will be 'dissapointing' to see both new signings on the bench don't you think?

neither tonight both on bench

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:49 am

I think SD will start with Arfield and JBG and have Lennon and Nkoudou on the bench. It'll be a question of whether he brings them on soon enough in the second half, if we're behind.

Mala591 · Post by **Mala591** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:55 am

FactualFrank wrote:I think SD will start with Arfield and JBG and have Lennon and Nkoudou on the bench. It'll be a question of whether he brings them on soon enough in the second half, if we're behind.

So, no change to the attacking formation of a team that hasn't won for 8 games and has only scored 4 goals?

Doesn't make sense does it?

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:04 pm

The obvious seems to be to move Hendrick back into midfield, move Arfield inside and Lennon on the wing.

I can't see Nkoudou starting any matches for us this season unless we have a lot of injuries.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:08 pm

Pope
Lowton Long Mee Taylor
Westwood Cork
Lennon Hendrick JBG
Barnes

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:11 pm

jlup1980 wrote:Heaton
Lowton Long Mee Taylor
Westwood Cork
Lennon Hendrick JBG
Barnes

I would say Heaton would be a struggle

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:14 pm

CnBtruntru wrote:I would say Heaton would be a struggle

Oops, not sure where that came from. Clearly I'm subconsciously longing for his return!!

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:16 pm

jlup1980 wrote:Oops, not sure where that came from. Clearly I'm subconsciously longing for his return!!

We have the Pope in goal and Gods on our side

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:19 pm

Mala591 wrote:So, no change to the attacking formation of a team that hasn't won for 8 games and has only scored 4 goals?

Doesn't make sense does it?

I'm always reluctant to accuse Sean Dyche of not making sense. The evidence suggests he has quite a good idea of football management.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:21 pm

claretcarrot93 wrote:Start them both and move JBG in behind Barnes/Vokes. Hendrick replaces defour with cork.

I like the sound of that!!

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:32 pm

looks like all on here have written off Tarks and Defour for tonight?
I read touch and go. As it looked like Defour has had the knee problem for a while dependant on what shows up I'm playing him.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:36 pm

piston broke wrote:I read touch and go.

That's probably why people have ruled him out.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:37 pm

piston broke wrote:looks like all on here have written off Tarks and Defour for tonight?
I read touch and go. As it looked like Defour has had the knee problem for a while dependant on what shows up I'm playing him.

Do you not understand what ''touch and go'' means in the Dyche world? They'll still be touch and go in 6 weeks time. Ignore anything from Dyche when it comes to injuries, it's top secret.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:40 pm

Are you mad?
These players are brought on to rescue games, go for the nil first, then when that changes, our approach does

Not a dig, just the way we operate.

All about moral, what message would it give if we dropped players who carry out the instructions.

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:40 pm

Nailed on her will play airfield with cork in midfield and Lennon on wing Sean loves square pegs in round holes

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:41 pm

Nailed on he will play airfield with cork in midfield and Lennon on wing Sean loves square pegs in round holes

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:42 pm

Dyche has already virtually said that Westwood will start tonight if Defour doesn't, as expected, and given that is the way we lined up at City that is what makes the most sense. Westwood is a really solid player who has waited patiently for his chance and keeping players like him happy (which is important for obvious reasons) depends on treating them fairly when an opportunity arises.

I think Lennon might start at the expense of Arfield, but that would be the only change I'd be expecting. NKoudou will, I suspect, need to be satisfied with minutes off the bench. I'm not sure I understand the desire to see JBG play centrally - his greatest strength is his crossing, which is best utilised out wide.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:42 pm

MACCA wrote:Are you mad?
These players are brought on to rescue games, go for the nil first, then when that changes, our approach does

Not a dig, just the way we operate.

All about moral, what message would it give if we dropped players who carry out the instructions.

The only problem is Dyche has never come back to win when going behind in the premier league.

The first goal is crucial.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:44 pm

claretspice wrote:Dyche has already virtually said that Westwood will start tonight if Defour doesn't, as expected, and given that is the way we lined up at City that is what makes the most sense. Westwood is a really solid player who has waited patiently for his chance and keeping players like him happy (which is important for obvious reasons) depends on treating them fairly when an opportunity arises.

I think Lennon might start at the expense of Arfield, but that would be the only change I'd be expecting. NKoudou will, I suspect, need to be satisfied with minutes off the bench. I'm not sure I understand the desire to see JBG play centrally - his greatest strength is his crossing, which is best utilised out wide.

I'm not surprised you don't want JBG playing there, it could end Hendrick's Burnley career.

claretcarrot93 · Post by **claretcarrot93** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:45 pm

claretspice wrote:Dyche has already virtually said that Westwood will start tonight if Defour doesn't, as expected, and given that is the way we lined up at City that is what makes the most sense. Westwood is a really solid player who has waited patiently for his chance and keeping players like him happy (which is important for obvious reasons) depends on treating them fairly when an opportunity arises.

I think Lennon might start at the expense of Arfield, but that would be the only change I'd be expecting. NKoudou will, I suspect, need to be satisfied with minutes off the bench. I'm not sure I understand the desire to see JBG play centrally - his greatest strength is his crossing, which is best utilised out wide.

He played lots of times for Charlton behind the front man. He was a goal threat. He isnt really a goal threat for us out wide. Lennon can provide width and supply on the right. JBG would get a lot more goals than Hendrick in that position.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:52 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:The only problem is Dyche has never come back to win when going behind in the premier league.

The first goal is crucial.

And hardly, if ever lose when taking the lead.

Suppose it ends up being down to taste, are you a klopp style fan or Mourinho.

As a spectator and fan, I'd rather lose 4-3, than 1-0 and likewise draw 2-2 rather than 0-0.

I will always struggle to see positives in a 1-0 defeat, but that's the winner in me

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:53 pm

claretcarrot93 wrote:He played lots of times for Charlton behind the front man. He was a goal threat. He isnt really a goal threat for us out wide. Lennon can provide width and supply on the right. JBG would get a lot more goals than Hendrick in that position.

If JBG has shown a weakness for us at this level, its been his finishing, and I also don't know if his passing is good enough for that role - you get far less time in the middle of the pitch compared to out wide. JBG has had a good season in terms of creating chances from out wide so it appears odd to move him and therefore sacrifice what has been our biggest attacking strength this season.

Its an option for us, but I think that in the 4-3-3 shape Dyche wants us to adopt out wide, the balance of Lennon and JBG as the two wide players joining the front man is a good one. Lennon the more pacey, direct threat; JBG the more trickier "supply line". In that shape, Hendrick and Arfield are obviously the best two suited to the more advanced role in the middle three.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:55 pm

I think Sean will play as he likes to with little or no change, however what a bench.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:58 pm

I was joking when I thought you were Jeff's dad, now I'm actually questioning myself.

I would say every aspect of JBG attacking play is better the Hendick's.

I really hope Jeff can either get a goal tonight, or get selected in his more comfortable role. Burnley's Yaya Toure is wasted in the number 10 role.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:15 pm

MACCA wrote:
I would say every aspect of JBG attacking play is better the Hendick's.

I'm sure you would

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:31 pm

claretspice wrote:I'm sure you would

I'm struggling to see what he brings to the table in the final 3rd at the moment. I think Arfield was far more positive and influential last time out.

Don't worry, I'm also at a loss as to how Bardsley is still getting a start.

But suppose I'm way too harsh on those, and I'm sure they have both been very influential for some people in their recent displays.

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:47 pm

claretspice wrote:Dyche has already virtually said that Westwood will start tonight if Defour doesn't, as expected, and given that is the way we lined up at City that is what makes the most sense. Westwood is a really solid player who has waited patiently for his chance and keeping players like him happy (which is important for obvious reasons) depends on treating them fairly when an opportunity arises.

I think Lennon might start at the expense of Arfield, but that would be the only change I'd be expecting. NKoudou will, I suspect, need to be satisfied with minutes off the bench. I'm not sure I understand the desire to see JBG play centrally - his greatest strength is his crossing, which is best utilised out wide.

One of the positives I can see straight away with JBG playing centrally behind the striker is he travels with the ball at reasonable pace but more importantly he is very comfortable at going left or right when taking his man on which is a nightmare for defenders particularly centre backs.

Don't know why I joined in though because it wont happen.

Long For Tarks and Westwood for Defour if either of them two don't make it I would say is a stonewall certainty then as you were for the rest.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:09 pm

The reason he travels with the ball and can go left or right to take is man on is that he invariably has space out on the wing.

Someone talks of square pegs in round holes, well playing Guddy behind the forward is a square peg in a round hole.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:15 pm

I'd expect the 0-0 now if we start with Hendrick at 10 and Arfield on the wing.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:15 pm

Or maybe he will excel because he doesn't mind receiving the ball under pressure. Has a better shot on him than most in the team. Will have more influence as it's easier to pick out a lone CF with a 10 yard pass than a 50yd cross.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:19 pm

Dyche won't sacrifice tightness and shape to increase goal threat or creativity. Westwood and Long will be in for Defour and Tarkowski. The 2 new wingers will be on the bench.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:28 pm

claretcarrot93 wrote:Start them both and move JBG in behind Barnes/Vokes. Hendrick replaces defour with cork.

Almost with ya. Westwood pairs up with cork for me. Jeff misses out I’m afraid.

I’m a little reluctant to move jbg, but we need to mix it up a little I think. Not scoring/winning for a while needs looking at.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:40 pm

Today I have heard that ARNFIELD will be starting and read on here AIRFIELD is starting

This is a lad revered for his goal and brilliant celebration at Ewood Park. He has been here since 2013 so please do him some justice and at least get his name correct.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:40 pm

Lennon or Kdoo-doo-doo, push pineapple, shake the tree
Lennon or Kdoo-doo-doo, push pineapple, grind coffee
On the left, on the right, jump up and down and try not to damage your knees
Come and sing every night, that the barstewards are shiiiiite.
UTC

BFC88 · Post by **BFC88** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:45 pm

Lennon should be starting, need pace out wide and something different / creative up front.
However with two changes already likely (Long and Westwood IN) I wouldn't be surprised to see Hendrick keep his place along with the rest of the team.

ewanrob · Post by **ewanrob** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:02 pm

Of course he wont start them, its his one Achilles Heel, doesn't really go for the throat from the start.

But saying that, it seems to work

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:36 pm

We have had nearly a fortnightly to practice for this match and I think we will have blended Lennon in the team ready
I would be very surprised if Lennon does not start we are desperate for another dimension.
If we start with the same as at city we will be put under against Newcastle from the off
Vokes and Lenon need to start for me

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:10 pm

Newcastle probably 99% knew our starting line up 2 weeks ago and with word of injuries will now be 100% - nothing wrong with a bit of surprise

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:16 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Newcastle probably 99% knew our starting line up 2 weeks ago and with word of injuries will now be 100% - nothing wrong with a bit of surprise

We could put Kevin Long up front - that'd surprise them!

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:39 pm

I think we all know what the stating line up will look like and yes it's painful to field such a side of mediocrity and out of form misfits. Having said that if we can get to 65/70 0-0 (and those players certainly know how to keep their shape) then the likes of Lennon and Nkoudo coming into the fray will really shake it up and give us a taste of whats to come when we have more 1st teamers fit.

SD safety 1st policy has often made me bite my lip in "wtf" frustration,but the end very much justifys the means and for that i'll back SD if he plays Derek Scot on the wing instead of Scotty Arfield

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:42 pm

If we start with Barnes up front, Hendrick in the number 10 roll and Arfield in the team, I will be disappointed. Though I have a feeling I am going to be disappointed.

Mala591 · Post by **Mala591** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:55 pm

Maybe SD is one step ahead of us all and has already decided that JBG CAN play in a central no. 10 position (all JBG needs to do is copy Eden Hazard

) He has brought in Lennon for the right midfield/wing and Nkoudou for the left midfield/wing.

The master plan will be revealed against Man City on Saturday.

Brilliant !

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:08 pm

I suspect he will pick one of Lennon/GKN, leaving one on the bench to bring fresh legs on for the other later in the game. Personally I’d like to see Arfield play behind Barnes who will be starting again tonight. If Westwood is starting then I’d have to presume that Jeff will continue in the 10 role. I’d like to see Jeff on the bench at the start with a point to prove from the bench, maybe just the thing he needs currently.

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:07 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:I think we all know what the stating line up will look like and yes it's painful to field such a side of mediocrity and out of form misfits. Having said that if we can get to 65/70 0-0 (and those players certainly know how to keep their shape) then the likes of Lennon and Nkoudo coming into the fray will really shake it up and give us a taste of whats to come when we have more 1st teamers fit.

SD safety 1st policy has often made me bite my lip in "wtf" frustration,but the end very much justifys the means and for that i'll back SD if he plays Derek Scot on the wing instead of Scotty Arfield

When does dyche ever make subs 65/70

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:10 pm

Safron wrote:When does dyche ever make subs 65/70

Put GKN on at 60 mins against Palace away

JimmyMac'sMate · Post by **JimmyMac'sMate** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:12 pm

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