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Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:16 pm
by piston broke
On this day has to be worth a look.
Some of our younger board members can have a look at the CFS and Longside when they were throbbing,
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Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:36 pm
by Colburn_Claret
That was a crowd, shame I'm too young to have been there. But at least I savoured the Longside.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:39 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
McDonald - 5
Angus - 6
Seith - 5
Miller - 6
Winton - 5
Adamson - 5
Newlands - 6
McIlroy - 8
Lawson - 3
Cheesebrough - 5
Pilkington - 6
I've always had an agenda with Lawson.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:46 pm
by Royboyclaret
Not Lawson, that was Alan Shackleton at centre forward.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:48 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
Someone's actually taking notice.
Well done Royboy.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:58 pm
by Funkydrummer
Oh for crowds like that now. They are but a distant memory now, but I am
pleased and privileged to have witnessed scenes like that.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:07 pm
by Royboyclaret
The official attendance was 37,823 but some three seasons later against Bradford City on the Turf the attendance was 52,850.
Now, that was really jammers, with still thousands locked outside.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:11 pm
by Stan Tastic
I bet it was annoying stood next to someone with a rattle.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:11 pm
by Funkydrummer
I always thought the record attendance was vs Huddersfield.
Just shows that I have been misled.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:11 pm
by dsr
Was that Arthur Ellis refereeing? Or did all refs look like that in those days?
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:13 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
Funkydrummer wrote:I always thought the record attendance was vs Huddersfield.
It is, and....
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:15 pm
by Royboyclaret
Funky, the record attendance was 54,775 against Huddersfield in 1924.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:15 pm
by tim_noone
Colburn_Claret wrote:That was a crowd, shame I'm too young to have been there. But at least I savoured the Longside.
You would have loved the smoke filled cricketfield terracing for sure it got me hooked...the Burnley fans with their collection of nicked away scarves all sewn together worn as trophies.. The flags of stoke city...Leeds utd etc the rumble of the terracing when a goal went in against the same! Picking up half crowns were a bonus on a matchday along with two bob pieces shillings and tanners....you'd have love it.and the football wasn't bad!!
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:17 pm
by Funkydrummer
Royboyclaret wrote:Funky, the record attendance was 54,775 against Huddersfield in 1924.
That's brilliant news, my granddad didn't mislead me.
Cheers for that.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:18 pm
by piston broke
Royboyclaret wrote:The official attendance was 37,823 but some three seasons later against Bradford City on the Turf the attendance was 52,850.
Now, that was really jammers, with still thousands locked outside.
The Everton FACup tie in Jan'67 was 48k. That's my biggest and I wish we'd lost. The bastards broke Willie Irvine's leg in the replay.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:19 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
Royboyclaret wrote:The official attendance was 37,823 but some three seasons later against Bradford City on the Turf the attendance was 52,850.
Now, that was really jammers, with still thousands locked outside.
I think someone made up the numbers like they did in the 80's.
Unless the 15,000 extra all went in the Brunshaw Rd stand, then they aren't fitting in the 3 stands that we see in the video.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:22 pm
by piston broke
Bin Ont Turf wrote:I think someone made up the numbers like they did in the 80's.
Unless the 15,000 extra all went in the Brunshaw Rd stand, then they aren't fitting in the 3 stands that we see in the video.
There were 36k+ on for the Wrexham Cup QF and by then the Longside had the large no-go zone in the middle
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:23 pm
by tim_noone
piston broke wrote:The Everton FACup tie in Jan'67 was 48k. That's my biggest and I wish we'd lost. The bastards broke Willie Irvine's leg in the replay.
I always thought it was 44.000 biggest home crowd I've ever been on. I got the impression we played them at night at the turf ..unless I had sunglasses on.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:24 pm
by Funkydrummer
Health and safety hadn't been invented in those days - talk about being crushed and
carried away from your dad without your feet touching the ground. We had to pre-arrange
a meeting point for after the game as quite regularly I didn't finish the game with my dad.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:25 pm
by piston broke
tim_noone wrote:I always thought it was 44.000 biggest home crowd I've ever been on. I got the impression we played them at night at the turf ..unless I had sunglasses on.
Someone will come along and correct one of us but to my memory it was a Saturday at home and the night match replay.
I'm not at home so can't check in Clarets Chronicles.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:28 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
piston broke wrote:There were 36k+ on for the Wrexham Cup QF and by then the Longside had the large no-go zone in the middle
As a kid I used to be thrown over the turnstiles, so maybe it went the other way with the numbers?
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:28 pm
by tim_noone
piston broke wrote:There were 36k+ on for the Wrexham Cup QF and by then the Longside had the large no-go zone in the middle
A sea of red on the beehole end as I remember.coaches all the way down tod road from townley gates.i worked at fire clay that Saturday morning.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:33 pm
by Royboyclaret
The Everton game was on a Saturday, the gate was 42,482.
BOT, I think if any of those attendances was suspect it would have to be the game in the video against United. The whole ground was rammed and remember the enclosure in front of the Brunshaw Road stand held over 4,000.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:33 pm
by tim_noone
piston broke wrote:Someone will come along and correct one of us but to my memory it was a Saturday at home and the night match replay.
I'm not at home so can't check in Clarets Chronicles.
Yes it was probably a dark dank day!rememer the young Everton fans clambering out of coach boots.1..1 turf 1..0 at goodison and a broken leg.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:38 pm
by tim_noone
1970 Burnley v Man utd night game on the Beehole end that had been modified.it shook that night.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:19 am
by The Enclosure
As a 13 year old youth I was there.Cant remember too much about the day though...I have a vague memory of being in the CFS and the crowd surging forwards every so often.Its a miracle people didnt get squashed against the perimeter wall or the tubular steel green painted barrier rails.Great atmosphere though at those big games.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:20 am
by Colburn_Claret
tim_noone wrote:You would have loved the smoke filled cricketfield terracing for sure it got me hooked...the Burnley fans with their collection of nicked away scarves all sewn together worn as trophies.. The flags of stoke city...Leeds utd etc the rumble of the terracing when a goal went in against the same! Picking up half crowns were a bonus on a matchday along with two bob pieces shillings and tanners....you'd have love it.and the football wasn't bad!!
I can remember the old cricket field stand. I was more on about that Utd game.
I was about 4/5 when I first went on, my dad used to carry me on his shoulders. That would be 61, more likely 62. The first thing that always grabs you is the atmosphere. You couldn't help falling in love with it.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:27 am
by Pstotto
The Leeds game in 73 was over 38,000 and with only three sides of the ground in use. That was the biggest attendance at the Turf for me. I'm being a spoiler here, but the Wrexham match was 26K not 36K.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:42 am
by Dazzler
piston broke wrote:There were 36k+ on for the Wrexham Cup QF and by then the Longside had the large no-go zone in the middle
No It didn't.
The first fence went up about 76.It was a few years later when another fence appeared creating the no-mans land.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:52 am
by Dazzler
To add to my post above;I vividly remember the Derby County game in 76 when it kicked off on the longside with no fencing.It must have been shortly after that or during the close season that the first fence was erected.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:16 am
by tim_noone
Dazzler wrote:To add to my post above;I vividly remember the Derby County game in 76 when it kicked off on the longside with no fencing.It must have been shortly after that or during the close season that the first fence was erected.
It gets hazy but I thought it was there for the visit of spurs in 75 which was a quite feisty affair on the long side. Spurs were relegated that season to.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:22 am
by Colburn_Claret
Not sure if it was 75, but can remember a running battle in the bus station after a Spurs game.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:30 am
by Dazzler
tim_noone wrote:It gets hazy but I thought it was there for the visit of spurs in 75 which was a quite feisty affair on the long side. Spurs were relegated that season to.
tim,How confident are you about it being there for that spurs game?
That Derby County rumble I refer to could have been 75 which,having just checked,was just a few weeks before that spurs match.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:52 am
by Dazzler
Pstotto wrote:I'm being a spoiler here, but the Wrexham match was 26K not 36K.
The attendance for that Wrexham game is given as 35,500 in the record books.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:28 am
by dermotdermot
And I thought I was old. Phew!
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:31 am
by dermotdermot
Nice clip though. McIlroy and Miller.....,.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:39 am
by vancouverclaret
The Leeds and Derby matches stick out in my mind. Leeds because I couldn't see the game, I was stuck at the top of the stairs in between the Longside and Bee Hole end. And Derby for Burnley fans singing Derby's surrounded.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:05 am
by Woodleyclaret
What was the crowd for the FA cup replay. V Chelsea after our 3-3 draw.?
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:54 am
by Grimsby Claret
Pstotto wrote:The Leeds game in 73 was over 38,000 and with only three sides of the ground in use. That was the biggest attendance at the Turf for me. I'm being a spoiler here, but the Wrexham match was 26K not 36K.
I Clearly remember the Wrexham attendance was 36,000.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:27 am
by ashtonlongsider
Thanks for posting, excellent footage. Must be honest, looked more than 36k on. Largest official attendance for a game I attended was 40,265 v Man Utd on 4th Feb 1967 (just before the summer of love). The score was 1-1 with a last minute equaliser from a Gordon Harris penalty. After that I witnessed some of the worst violence I have seen inside TM.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:05 am
by ClaretTony
piston broke wrote:The Everton FACup tie in Jan'67 was 48k. That's my biggest and I wish we'd lost. The bastards broke Willie Irvine's leg in the replay.
The last 50K plus attendance at the Turf was Everton in the FA Cup six years earlier in the 5th round. We won that one 3-1.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:09 am
by Bfc
Re the 54775 record attendance on the Turf. If more had turned up to the game, or any game, they would have been allowed on. In 1936 we played the then mighty ( which they were) Arsenal in a cup tie. A crowd of 60,000 was expected, but sadly it didn't happen.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:27 am
by Marney&Mee
how much was a twix in those days ?
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:39 am
by cricketfieldclarets
Would love to see a gate like that at a small ground like ours.
Wonder what the biggest is ive seen? Dont remember if i went on blackpool 1992. Wasnt that allegedly if not officially 27k? What about sheff utd in the cup. Definitely went on that? Probably not as big as it seeemed at the time.
First game 1986...
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:39 am
by piston broke
ClaretTony wrote:The last 50K plus attendance at the Turf was Everton in the FA Cup six years earlier in the 5th round. We won that one 3-1.
Just too soon for me sadly. Unbelievable to think of that ground with 50k on and that was before the Beehole was raised at the back.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:43 am
by ClaretTony
piston broke wrote:Just too soon for me sadly. Unbelievable to think of that ground with 50k on and that was before the Beehole was raised at the back.
Was the only occasion I was at a game with over 50,000. The Liverpool cup tie a year later fell short by not much more than 100.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:24 am
by Pstotto
Nah, Grimsby. I clearly remember it as 26K. I remember the disappointment at the attendance. Any anoraks out there that can clear the matter up?
Dazzler, I'm amazed, I've just seen your post. I'm still not convinced, I need a second opinion.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:38 am
by UpTheBeehole
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:43 am
by houseboy
Funkydrummer wrote:I always thought the record attendance was vs Huddersfield.
Just shows that I have been misled.
I think you're right and it was around 54k.
Re: Busby Babes ont Turf
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:05 am
by Pstotto
UTB, they are not all that tightly packed in. When the Turf really was full, all that could be seen was heads and no bodies more or less. On that vid one can clearly see the folk standing. I'm still not convinced. I'm open to change my opinion, though.
Houseboy, the Huddersfield attendance of 54K was for a cup tie and not a league attendance record.