Elise Christie..

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:02 pm

Elise Christie has crashed out again (500 m) she was very upset after the race... the latest video footage shows that she was taken out and that caused the crash - her left hand touching the ice was clattered into by the skater behind, and this caused her to lose control.

All probably accidental, there is contact allowed in the races... it’s fairly physical.
She still has her two best events to come.. sad to watch though.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:05 pm

Pity. Felt sorry for the Korean! She seemed to get the wrong end of a push.

LordBob · Post by **LordBob** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:07 pm

Yep it's sad I really felt for the girl, a huge amount of pressure on her and such a unfortunate way to go out, hope she's gonna bounce back though.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:31 pm

How the judges could DQ the poor Korean girl is unreal. Held her position behind the leader and the Canuck just shoved her out of the way.
Hope Elise Christie hasn't got an Olympic jinx. She wouldn't be the first who never seem to come home with a medal.

uwe · Post by **uwe** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:31 pm

Yes there was contact.....

..... so she had every right to go down.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:33 pm

Was genuinely concerned for Elise there. She did not need to be on camera so soon after, and the BBC would have shown far more class by interviewing a coach instead.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:41 pm

elise crashtie, more like.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:50 pm

BBC knew that she would be an emotional mess - so they thought it would make good TV.
All this rubbish about Clare Balding and the rest of them in the studio being in bits about the fall and and her reaction but yet they still interview her as soon after the race as they can....she was crying as soon as she fell apparently so she`s hardly going to be composed and rational about it 2 minutes after especially after virtually having a breakdown after the last Olympics.

Very strange decision to disqualify the Korean when it was clearly the Canadian who pushed the Korean (the Canadian also pushed the Brit during the race)

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:18 pm

uwe wrote:Yes there was contact.....

..... so she had every right to go down.

She should have leapt 3 feet in the air clutching her face....

CrumpetMonkey · Post by **CrumpetMonkey** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:06 pm

Linfords lass ?

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:10 pm

Im feeling overly protective of the poor girl tbh. 4 years work and it can be taken away by something beyond your control again has to be heartbreaking

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:11 pm

I'm trying to work out what sport you're talking about but I have no idea.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:26 pm

The only upside is she has 2 more good gold medal chances,surely her luck has to improve sometime.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:37 pm

KRBFC wrote:I'm trying to work out what sport you're talking about but I have no idea.

It's speed skating. I can't believe you've missed all the other speed skating threads over the years. This lot are always on about it.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:17 pm

It's a rough old sport for sure.

I saw the Brit lad was the only one in his heat with Gold blades, he came last by a long way Elise is World Champion but this is the Olympics. She is the fastest girl there BUT she wore Gold boots in the final and was knocked over.

Keep it modest!

MT03ALG · Post by **MT03ALG** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:06 pm

It seems that Speed Skating is one of the few events where the medals are decided before the event - a bit like some Premier League games where the points are decided before the game......!! Christie was taken out deliberately by the Dutch girl who clearly saw her chance and deliberately moved her right foot to upend Christie, a definite red card not seen by the judges !!

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:42 am

It just shows even video replays the referees can still get it massively wrong. In both final races involving Christie the Canadian was the one doing the pushing and causing the crashes yet she ends up with a medal.

I felt sorrier for the Korean than Christie. To lose the silver medal in her home games for basically nothing was so unjust.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:18 am

JohnMac wrote:It's a rough old sport for sure.

I saw the Brit lad was the only one in his heat with Gold blades, he came last by a long way Elise is World Champion but this is the Olympics. She is the fastest girl there BUT she wore Gold boots in the final and was knocked over.

Keep it modest!

The Beeb stated yesterday that gold boots were worn to denote a current world champion

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:17 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:The Beeb stated yesterday that gold boots were worn to denote a current world champion

Strange isn't it as the two are mutually exclusive.

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:19 pm

Seen em given...

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:25 pm

I was studying her technique in some detail.... yep it's that bottom that gives her all the power... work of art

edison · Post by **edison** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:52 pm

CrumpetMonkey wrote:Linfords lass ?

Linford and Julie

Rightfoot · Post by **Rightfoot** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:28 pm

not good enough, she should have been leading and not chasing then that wouldn't have happened

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:50 pm

Rightfoot wrote:not good enough, she should have been leading and not chasing then that wouldn't have happened

Poor draw after the semis due to a 5th person being added to the final didn't help her in the slightest

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:56 pm

She has the base speed to beat them all but coming 2nd in the semi final was the reason for a poor draw.

I hope she puts it all together in the next discipline and takes the Gold she so desperately craves and probably deserves.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:33 am

Poor girl is cursed. simply got taken out

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:37 am

I'm now reaching the conclusion that she's a bit sh-it !!

(I'm joking btw)

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:40 am

Keep hearing about all her speed but she keeps getting herself in bad positions.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:49 am

What I don't get is

1/ the incident on Tuesday Christie is taken out by the Canadian woman coming from behind her and knocking her sliding hand away causing the crash - Nothing is done

2/ Today Christie crashes out and is penalised for the crash with the Chinese woman for not being far enough in front at the point of collision

How the f##k does that stack up

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:53 am

Tell you what though lads, what a bloody film it will be if she gets gold in the last race

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:54 am

Providing she hasn't done herself serious damage

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:40 pm

Her boyfriend`s just been disqualified in the mens final

You would not want to be on a night out with these two tonight

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:50 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:Tell you what though lads, what a bloody film it will be if she gets gold in the last race

With Rachel Riley in the lead role? After she’s learned to skate, obviously.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:42 pm

Taken out again but refs blamed her. I think the chinese knew Christie was going quicker around the bend and just lost her skate. Giving Christie a penalty was the easy option for the refs so they didn't have to reinstate her.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:52 pm

bobinho wrote:With Rachel Riley in the lead role? After she’s learned to skate, obviously.

Was thinking more Abbie Cornish haha

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:00 am

Elise Christie goes again this morning in the 1000 metres...her favourite event.

Her ankle is swollen from her crash the other day, but the doctor says she is about 80/90 % and she will be able to race.

i am not an expert on this sport but to me she looks like she has been terribly unlucky; she crashed twice but was taken out both times.

She goes in Heat 5 at about 10.15am - the semi's are on Thursday if she gets through.

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:16 am

she has fallen at the first corner...might re-start it...

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:20 am

Race re-started, she finished second and qualifies for semis. Excellent.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:21 am

She's doing it the hard way!! Through after a restart.

bedfords · Post by **bedfords** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:22 am

Yellow carded. Snub.

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:23 am

oh-oh...yellow card for Christie...she is disqualified.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:23 am

hampsteadclaret wrote:oh-oh...yellow card for Christie...she is disqualified.

That's remarkable. There was nothing in it at all.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:25 am

Is Dele Alli in any of these races ?

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:25 am

What a sport..three out of four have just gone down in the next race.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:03 am

jlup1980 wrote:That's remarkable. There was nothing in it at all.

There wasn't 4 years ago and the same thing happened. Ridiculous that they can disqualify a skater without having to explain the reason and there is no method of appeal.

Makes the bias by referees towards the big clubs in the Premier League look tame in comparison.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:04 am

I have no interest in the Winter Olympics but this thread is fantastic.

As far as I can make out, one of our athletes has fallen over in all three of her races.

Some true Eddie the Eagle spirit about her.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:45 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:I have no interest in the Winter Olympics but this thread is fantastic.

As far as I can make out, one of our athletes has fallen over in all three of her races.

Some true Eddie the Eagle spirit about her.

So why bother replying with incorrect facts if you have no interest

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:58 pm

I recommend Elise has a go in the 3,000 meters women's relay. From what I could tell, there are several members in each team - those not currently racing skating round in the centre of the track - and, you can change from one racer to another at any time, just by entering the track and being tagged by your team mate. Just watched the final: Korea finish first - but question about whether they will be penalised for taking Canada out a few laps before the end; China finish second and Italy third, having been brought down earlier in the race. Then the judges do their "var" review, two penalties announced, China are disqualified and Canada are disqualified. Seems whatever Korea did it was "ok." So, Korea gold, Italy silver and Netherlands - who weren't even in the race, but had won the "B final" are awarded bronze.

Fantastic spectacle - makes offside decisions look just "easy peasy..."

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:02 pm

If you think Christie was hard done by you should have watched the womens relay final.

Koreans do a late change, take out the Canadians when the Korean handing over fell yet the Canadians get disqualified and the Chinese who did nothing wrong all race also get disqualified and Korea end up with the gold. Barmy or bent I'm not sure which ?

Dublin7Claret · Post by **Dublin7Claret** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:23 pm

bobinho wrote:With Rachel Riley in the lead role? After she’s learned to skate, obviously.

If she's playing Elise she won't need to know how to skate