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Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:27 pm
by fidelcastro
Bit early I know, but as we can't go down (according to Rodley dave), where do we need to strengthen in our third Premier League season in succession?

Yes, THIRD PREMIER LEAGUE SEASON IN SUCCESSION!

Enjoy it!

:D

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:33 pm
by 4:20
Another centre half
Attacking midfielder
Number 10
A goal machine striker

That's my wishlist, would cost a few bob though

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:35 pm
by Rick_Muller
Fan base needs more of a backbone ;)

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:36 pm
by cockneyclaret
Bigger scouting network a must..
Maybe another attacking minded coach, not like our back 4 struggles

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:36 pm
by fidelcastro
4:20 wrote:Another centre half
Attacking midfielder
Number 10
A goal machine striker

That's my wishlist, would cost a few bob though
I wouldn't disagree with that, and you're also right about the cost, but we'll surely never be in a better position to afford and attract those players we need.

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:40 pm
by Firthy
4:20 wrote:Another centre half
Attacking midfielder
Number 10
A goal machine striker

That's my wishlist, would cost a few bob though
I think most would agree with that but it will depend on how ambitious SD and the board are.

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:42 pm
by COYC73
4:20 wrote:Another centre half
Attacking midfielder
Number 10
A goal machine striker

That's my wishlist, would cost a few bob though

This! ^

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:44 pm
by FactualFrank
Ideally..

A better right back than Bardsley.
A centre back so we have 4.
A better wide midfielder than Arfield, to go with Lennon, JBG and Brady to make 2 players fighting for each place.
A quick, tricky forward to partner Wood, if we play 2 up top.
A better player than Vokes.
A 'in the hole' attacking midfielder who can play if we play just 1 up front.

That's 6 players. Which I know won't happen, but I hope that's the sort of target we'll aim for during the summer, if the prices are right.

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:46 pm
by DAVETHEVICAR
A goal machine striker would cost around £80 million plus £200,000 a week wages

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:48 pm
by fidelcastro
DAVETHEVICAR wrote:A goal machine striker would cost around £80 million plus £200,000 a week wages
unless you find a bargain...

Okay, they're about as common as rocking horse droppings, but we can dream! :D ;)

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:49 pm
by bobinho
I think we do need to strengthen, but I think the pace we have been operating at for the last few years is about right.

I don't think for one minute we will bring in four first team starters, and I don't think id want us to tbh.

I suppose it all depends on what style of football we will be looking to play.

One, possibly two with one being either an ACM/No10 and a striker of some note.

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:51 pm
by 4:20
DAVETHEVICAR wrote:A goal machine striker would cost around £80 million plus £200,000 a week wages
I'm banking on striking the proverbial pot of gold goal machine, bought for sub 20m and goes on to have the season of his life. Its rare, but it does happen.

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:57 pm
by DAVETHEVICAR
Andre Gray for example, £20 million

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:00 pm
by fidelcastro
DAVETHEVICAR wrote:Andre Gray for example, £20 million
Yes, and he doesn't score very often at this level :(

We've unearthed gems in the past, who's to say we can't do it again? :o

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:05 pm
by 4:20
DAVETHEVICAR wrote:Andre Gray for example, £20 million
Jamie Vardy £1m, who could predict how he'd turn out

Rare, yes, a long shot, but imagine if we unearthed a gem like that.

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:31 pm
by k90bfc
Jay Rod back,would be a good start!

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:40 pm
by SGr
Thread’s been going for just over an hour and already the ex player obsession has begun...

Need a centre half half, an attacking mid, a winger since Nkoudou and possibly Arfield won’t be here and maybe a striker depending on sales.

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:45 pm
by KRBFC
Personnel doesn't matter, we could have Ronaldo upfront if we refuse to get bodies around him and provide him with decent service because we'd rather defend deep and in numbers then he will struggle. Mentality and intent has to change for us to ever become better going forward. It's like on Football Manager when you set up ultra defensive and 9 of the 10 outfield players on ''stay back while attacking'' :lol:

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:00 pm
by fidelcastro
KRBFC wrote:Personnel doesn't matter, we could have Ronaldo upfront if we refuse to get bodies around him and provide him with decent service because we'd rather defend deep and in numbers then he will struggle. Mentality and intent has to change for us to ever become better going forward. It's like on Football Manager when you set up ultra defensive and 9 of the 10 outfield players on ''stay back while attacking'' :lol:
Which is of course how you analyse your football anyhow... like you're playing a silly computer game.

This, however, is the real world.

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:06 pm
by KRBFC
fidelcastro wrote:Which is of course how you analyse your football anyhow... like you're playing a silly computer game.

This, however, is the real world.
But it's common sense, if you put 9 of your 10 outfield players behind the ball, you're less likely to score goals.

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:07 pm
by bfccrazy
KRBFC wrote:But it's common sense, if you put 9 of your 10 outfield players behind the ball, you're less likely to score goals.
Nope, in "the real world" defending equals goals.

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:08 pm
by fidelcastro
KRBFC wrote:But it's common sense, if you put 9 of your 10 outfield players behind the ball, you're less likely to score goals.
If that's what you think we really do :roll:

Get Silva in!

:lol:

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:14 pm
by jrgbfc
Our forward line needs sorting this summer once and for all. If we have to break the bank then so be it. Hopefully we'll be able to move Walters on and if we can get 10 million for Barnes I'd take it.

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:15 pm
by KRBFC
fidelcastro wrote:If that's what you think we really do :roll:

Get Silva in!

:lol:
How about you continue attending every game and clapping along in excitement while you're really bored out of your mind...

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:17 pm
by fidelcastro
KRBFC wrote:How about you continue attending every game and clapping along in excitement while you're really bored out of your mind...
That's because I do attend.

You obviously don't, if your comments are anything to go by.

:roll:

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:19 pm
by KRBFC
fidelcastro wrote:That's because I do attend.

You obviously don't, if your comments are anything to go by.

:roll:
I never said you didn't...... :roll: :o :shock:

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:23 pm
by fidelcastro
KRBFC wrote:I never said you didn't...... :roll: :o :shock:
And I never said that you'd said I didn't.

:?

I did, however, suggest that your immature and frankly insane comments were because you don't actually go.

Perhaps you were at an EDL rally instead? :shock:

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:27 pm
by KRBFC
fidelcastro wrote:And I never said that you'd said I didn't.

:?

I did, however, suggest that your immature and frankly insane comments were because you don't actually go.

Perhaps you were at an EDL rally instead? :shock:
Why would I be at an EDL rally? Do the EDL even still exist.... :?

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:29 pm
by fidelcastro
KRBFC wrote:Why would I be at an EDL rally? Do the EDL even still exist.... :?
I think anyone who's aware of your back catalogue on here will know why you'd more likely be there.

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:53 pm
by MACCA
We only need 4 players, that would allow 4 to leave also. Anymore leave than the 4, and it's just like for like in those positions.

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:56 pm
by MDWat
I see it as this.

Keepers

Heaton
Pope
Legzdins

Defenders

Lowton
Bardsley
Tarkowski
Mee
NEW
Long
Ward
Taylor

Midfield

Lennon
Gudmundsson
Cork
Defour
Hendrick
Westwood
NEW
NEW
Brady

Strikers

Wood
Barnes
Vokes
NEW

4 key players needed. Walters, Wells, Arfield, Lindegaard, Marney to go.

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:57 pm
by BOYSIE31
Plenty of good players available at the right price - depends if we could attract them

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:06 pm
by Taffy on the wing
Remember....We were playing fantastic football before Brady and the rest got injured.

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:14 pm
by boatshed bill
Exactly the same as we needed at the start of this season:
Young improving centre back
Young improving midfielder
Young "No 10" if that's what we are going to call it.

Shouldn't cost too much either

Re: Which areas need strengthening?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:17 pm
by DefourFiveSix
25 man squad something like:

Heaton, Pope, Lindergaard
Lowton, Bardsley, Mee, Tarkowski, Long, another CB, Ward, Taylor
Cork, Defour, Westwood, Hendrick, a no. 10, O'Neill
Lennon, Gudmundsson, Brady, another winger
Wood, Barnes, Vokes, a pacey striker

Out: Arfield, Marney, Walters and Wells.
In: first team number 10, first team pacey striker, young back up centre back and a winger (maybe a loan) that can step in from the bench.

That's four players, surely achievable.