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Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:43 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Hold my hands up. Never rated him. He was pheonomenal today. But for him it could have been 5 or 6.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:45 pm
by watsonsclarets
Error with both goals.

He blocked himself off for the 2nd.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:45 pm
by BurningBeard
Terrible starting position for Ash's goal. Not that I'm arsed.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:49 pm
by KRBFC
Fantastic shot stopper, doesn't command his penalty box like Pope though.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:51 pm
by Vegas Claret
he's conceded more goals than any other goalkeeper in the PL today after our winner.......

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:52 pm
by claretcarrot93
He was at fault for both of the goals

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:53 pm
by Blackrod
He'll be on the plane.
For me Butland, Pickford, Pope. If Hart is anywhere near Southgate needs his head seeing to.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:53 pm
by jedi_master
Potential to be world class, but he has errors in him. His distribution is magnificent as his shot stopping, decision making and command of area though seem poor.

A mixture of Pope’s penalty area dominance and Pickford’s kicking and you have a De Gea/Neuer level goalkeeper. I guess that’s why they play for Wverton and Burnley!

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:54 pm
by dpinsussex
Blackrod wrote:He'll be on the plane.
For me Butland, Pickford, Pope. If Hart is anywhere near Southgate needs his head seeing to.
For me butland heaton and pope

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:05 pm
by Claretmatt4
Made some superb reaction saves but also made some basic errors with regards to positioning. Hell learn no doubt.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:20 pm
by SalisburyClaret
Good game - but he's not Nick Pope

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:27 pm
by fungus_the_bogeyman
Did those choosing Butland not see his error last week?

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:31 pm
by JimmyMac'sMate
Don't get carried away everybody because we had a great win pope is not a better goalkeeper than Pickford end off utc

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:32 pm
by UpTheClaretsFCBK
Bizarre.

He was at fault for both goals.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:43 pm
by FactualFrank
claretcarrot93 wrote:He was at fault for both of the goals
The defenders were at fault for Wood's goal.

They were all over the place and not one of them picked him up.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:45 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
How can anyone blame him for Barnes goal?

Couldnt see Woods goal clearly enough to comment from the cfs.

His save from Barnes header was top class.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:59 pm
by BurningBeard
Poor starting position and didn't come out to close the shooting angle. Gave Barnes the whole goal to aim at. Defending was awful but so was the goalkeeping.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:59 pm
by Hipper
For Barnes's goal you need to question whether he should have come out or not. He didn't and we scored. Later with a similar chance he came out and smothered Barnes's effort.

I don't blame him for the second goal. His defence, notably Williams, was at fault.

The save from Barnes's header was good but I would expect a save there.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:04 pm
by Devils_Advocate
dpinsussex wrote:For me butland heaton and pope
Really?? Id take Lindegaard over Butland

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:12 pm
by piston broke
According to Jamie Redknapp on Sky.
He went back from the edge of his area to his goal line and when Ash hit the ball it was in the 6yd box. He showed Ederson for City last week, in a similar position, and he came out and cleared.
For the second he said he allowed himself to get physical with Ward giving himself no chance of getting to the cross from the corner. They also criticised Williams for pointing out Wood was free but not doing enough about it.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:19 pm
by nil_desperandum
piston broke wrote: For the second he said he allowed himself to get physical with Ward giving himself no chance of getting to the cross from the corner. They also criticised Williams for pointing out Wood was free but not doing enough about it.
I think this is an often overlooked area of Ward's play that we have missed whilst he has been out of the team. He is excellent at blocking their keeper without ever - I don't think - being penalised by the referee. No surprise for me that we have scored from a corner now that he is back.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:23 pm
by piston broke
nil_desperandum wrote:I think this is an often overlooked area of Ward's play that we have missed whilst he has been out of the team. He is excellent at blocking their keeper without ever - I don't think - being penalised by the referee. No surprise for me that we have scored from a corner now that he is back.
True. Nobody does it better.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:24 pm
by Caernarfon_Claret
cricketfieldclarets wrote:How can anyone blame him for Barnes goal?

Couldnt see Woods goal clearly enough to comment from the cfs.

His save from Barnes header was top class.

He moved from edge of area (good position) back into goal (poor position)

Comparison with Ederson who advanced rather than retreating against Arsenal in similar situation.

The Sky team (Henry and Redknapp blamed him)

*As mentioned eaier by piston broke

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:24 pm
by Rileybobs
Poor positioning for the first goal and shocking goalkeeping for the second. Made two very smart saves but ones that I would expect any keeper to make at this level.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:25 pm
by Caernarfon_Claret
For second goal he was so focused on Ward he forgot about the basics of goalkeeping, but Williams failed to mark Wood properly.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:08 pm
by bob-the-scutter
piston broke wrote:True. Nobody does it better.
Makes me feel sad for the rest!

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:10 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Dreadful for first. Routine saves otherwise.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:11 pm
by bob-the-scutter
JimmyMac'sMate wrote:Don't get carried away everybody because we had a great win pope is not a better goalkeeper than Pickford end off utc
How can you be so wrong and also not punctuate? :P

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:13 pm
by Firthy
So which one would Southgate have been most impressed with watching today's match?

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:16 pm
by Spike
Not a patch on Pope or Heaton too small too limited

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:24 pm
by quoonbeatz
makes saves for the cameras and very little else.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:41 pm
by MACCA
Makes saves look good, and most of them today were routine.
Pope makes all those, and probably conceeds 1 at best if in Evertons goal...

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:54 pm
by holdyourfire
bob-the-scutter wrote:Makes me feel sad for the rest!
Baby your the best.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:57 pm
by piston broke
Firthy wrote:So which one would Southgate have been most impressed with watching today's match?
Well Pope wasn't at fault for a goal. So Pope.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:09 pm
by scouseclaret
All goalkeepers at this level make great saves. For me, the best keepers are the ones who rarely make mistakes. Pickford appears to have technical difficiencies and makes too many errors.

I think Heaton is still the best of the lot but I can’t see him playing enough football between now and the end of the season to make the World Cup squad.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:50 pm
by bfcmik
Pope's fingertip save last week against Southampton was at least as good, if not better, than Pickford's save from Barnes today. Pickford looks like a great if 'showy' shot stopper but has poor command of his goal area. I wish Pope had his ability when it comes to ball distribution though!

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:51 pm
by FactualFrank
I think it speaks volumes, when, IMO, he was their best player.

He kept the score lower than it perhaps should have been. 3 or 4-1 I don't think would have been too OTT.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:53 pm
by Steve1956
Annoying overrated show pony.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:54 pm
by MrClaretandBlue
Show pony. Great at the camera saves but shite at everything else

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:58 pm
by Steve1956
MrClaretandBlue wrote:Show pony. Great at the camera saves but shite at everything else
Was it 30 million ? Ouch! :D

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:09 pm
by ayrshireclaret83
His kicking/distribution was dreadful today

Great shot stopper tho

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:11 pm
by agreenwood
Definitely stayed on his line too long for Barnes’ goal.

Some good stops though.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:05 am
by scouseclaret
Made some good saves but in the final analysis he was at fault for both our goals.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:28 am
by IanMcL
The most agile of all the keepers. However, positioning often demands that agility to its max, rather than a more simple save.

Heaton is best at positioning.

Pope is good at positioning, great on crosses and his length reaches the spots even the agile can't make.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:37 am
by piston broke
Couldn't understand the praise he got for the save from Ben Mee.
He pushed it back into the danger area, Wood could have scored, when it was easier to flick it over the bar.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:42 am
by joey13
He’s way too short to be a top keeper and concedes too many

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:58 pm
by nil_desperandum
joey13 wrote:He’s way too short to be a top keeper and concedes too many
That would have ruled out Gordon Banks at Stoke (who was the same height), but in Pickford's case I agree with you.

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:13 pm
by starting_11
£30m quid... whats Pope worth?!?!

I don't think there's enough money in the world!

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:48 pm
by Wile E Coyote
cricketfieldclarets wrote:Hold my hands up. Never rated him. He was pheonomenal today. But for him it could have been 5 or 6.
spot on cricketfields, strange how so many are suddenly goalkeeping experts having watched MOTD !!
this out of position stuff is laughable .

Re: Jordan Pickford

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:11 pm
by Shore claret
I thought he looked average, I thought his kicking was poor he seems to cut across everything which is strange.
It's the modern way for goalkeepers to make average saves look like wonder saves,l.