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Ground Development

Post by piston broke » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:41 pm

Found this at the back of The Clarets Chronicles. The corner of JH & JM looks just like what is coming.
When will they get on with the CFS?
As this was published in 2007 it was 11 years ahead so better than Bolton.
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Re: Ground Development

Post by MDWat » Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:41 pm

We don’t sell out for the majority of games. There’s no real need to do that work yet. The CFS will only be knocked down if it’s not fit for purpose or we’ve stayed up about 10 seasons in a row.

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Re: Ground Development

Post by Geoff » Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:57 pm

[quote="MDWat"]The CFS will only be knocked down if it’s not fit for purpose or we’ve stayed up about 10 seasons in a row.[/quote]

You haven't got a clue boy.

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Re: Ground Development

Post by ontario claret » Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:08 pm

I think this was Paul Fletcher's doing. Obsolete before it was even published.

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Re: Ground Development

Post by Claretforever » Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:43 pm

Spend the money on structure whilst we’ve got it. We could be a long time without it if we go down again.
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Re: Ground Development

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:18 pm

The Turf's basic, unwelcoming and hostile.

I like it like that. Visiting teams, apparently, don't like that.
So keep it the same.
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Re: Ground Development

Post by Dyched » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:28 pm

Geoff wrote:
You haven't got a clue boy.
He has it spot on.

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Re: Ground Development

Post by sox8595 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:34 am

I just want shorter waits for my pie at half time. Surely that should be the first priority?
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Re: Ground Development

Post by deanothedino » Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:43 am

sox8595 wrote:I just want shorter waits for my pie at half time. Surely that should be the first priority?
Bring back iPie

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Re: Ground Development

Post by Rick_Muller » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:01 am

sox8595 wrote:I just want shorter waits for my pie at half time. Surely that should be the first priority?
You’re doing it wrong - buy the pie before kickoff in the first half, by half time the thermonuclear temperature will have reduced enough for you to consume it, and in this weather it can be utilised as a hand warmer ;)
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Re: Ground Development

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:12 am

Those plans shown at the top were the first ones put forward by Brendan Flood for a sports village. They were very quickly scrapped.

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Re: Ground Development

Post by Stayingup » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:20 am

MDWat wrote:We don’t sell out for the majority of games. There’s no real need to do that work yet. The CFS will only be knocked down if it’s not fit for purpose or we’ve stayed up about 10 seasons in a row.
What?

Our gates will improve with time and more away capacity.

Closing off the corners will improve the atmosphere.

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Re: Ground Development

Post by DCWat » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:05 am

Gates probably won’t improve. I suspect that they’d be more likely to drop than increase, for the ‘run of the mill’ games.

Unless we are doing something special (league, cup or perhaps flirting with Europe) the more fickle of our fans will get bored after a few seasons of mid table - even though that in itself would be a great achievement.

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Re: Ground Development

Post by deanothedino » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:13 am

Stayingup wrote: Our gates will improve with time and more away capacity.
They really won't. Most PL teams maybe half fill their away allocation now and most games don't sell out. Is it worth spending a lot of money for a few extra thousand ticket sales against Chelsea, City, United and Liverpool?

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Re: Ground Development

Post by DCWat » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:24 am

We don’t need a bigger capacity. The main reasons for development should be: developing the infrastructure whilst we have the money to do so, improving the experience for home fans, increasing match day / non match day revenue streams if possible.

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Re: Ground Development

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:44 am

We have argued over this for years and everyone has different views but

if we increase capacity it would be a 2nd tier on the Bob Lord stand that would bring another 3k prime viewing seats into play.

There's not many decent seats available for a walk on and certainly not in two or threes if you want to go with friends or family.

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Re: Ground Development

Post by LeuvenClaret » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:47 am

What is clear is that there are limited seats for families to sit together which are causing people not to go or to sit apart. We don't sell out is often an argument I see on here but I can say for sure if people are having problem sitting with friends or family they wont go and of course we wont sell out under these conditions, with odd seats dotted around the stadium.

I am sure the club is aware of this and will choose what to do in the best interests of BFC. Increasing capacity or not.

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Re: Ground Development

Post by nyclaret » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:50 am

I've heard in the past from sources within the club that a second tier to the Bob Lord is part of Dyche's vision for the ground development, along with the two corner stands. Maybe another season in the Prem will see this come to fruition.

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Re: Ground Development

Post by Ric_C » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:18 pm

Don't forget the safe standing option as well. We need to maximise creating a better / more hostile atmosphere rather than just focusing on extra seats.

The last thing we need is a ground that holds 25-30k which could become a half empty stadium *cough* Rovers.

Could a new Cricketfield stand incorporate safe standing, for home fans only? And have the corner between the Cricketfield and the James hargreaves a new section for away fans? That would be pretty hostile.

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Re: Ground Development

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:17 pm

If there is any money in the pot for improvements, it would be silly to do anything when the chances of creating safe standing areas is getting nearer.
We don't need extra capacity, but we do need a better stand to accommodate a proper Kop. The CFS do their best, and the JHU is less successful, to have a large mental crowd behind the CF goal would be such a boost to the atmosphere, and the team.

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Re: Ground Development

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:23 pm

If there ISNT any money in the pot for ground improvements some serious questions need asking lol...

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Re: Ground Development

Post by piston broke » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:07 pm

DCWat wrote:Gates probably won’t improve. I suspect that they’d be more likely to drop than increase, for the ‘run of the mill’ games.
Can't agree with that. Success breeds success. More kids will be asking Dad's to take them on. The catchment area will widen. Just like in the 60s when match specials were coming in from Rawtenstall, Bacup, Accy, Nelson etc., Especially at a time when our surrounding rivals are in lower leagues this is the perfect opportunity to go out and get these kids on board.
Even Rovers went from their 5k gates in the 70s to 30k in the 90s. Rovers took all the kids in that period, now it is our chance to get the next generation.

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Re: Ground Development

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:32 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:If there is any money in the pot for improvements, it would be silly to do anything when the chances of creating safe standing areas is getting nearer.
We don't need extra capacity, but we do need a better stand to accommodate a proper Kop. The CFS do their best, and the JHU is less successful, to have a large mental crowd behind the CF goal would be such a boost to the atmosphere, and the team.
You would need more fans that want to sing to create what you want.
We probably only have 500 fans that sing regular the rest when we have scored or winning.

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Re: Ground Development

Post by joey13 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:48 pm

What ever happened to the plans of a new ground being built on the old Padiham Power Station site ?

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Re: Ground Development

Post by Stockbrokerbelt » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:55 pm

Mike Garlick stated on Clarets tv that there would be the need for new stands within 5 years, out of the horses mouth & said it would cost around £30mil.

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Re: Ground Development

Post by ontario claret » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:42 pm

Until the Cricket Field or the Bob Lord get condemned, keep it the way it is. It won't increase attendance, and it's all about TV money, anyways. Remember, the Chicago Cubs play in the smallest stadium in the baseball big leagues, but are near the top of revenue. Same as Boston.

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