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Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:08 pm
by ecc
Lethal.

Great goals and really made up for our fans who saw them close up.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:09 pm
by Vino blanco
Should be starting every game

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:09 pm
by IndigoLake
5 goals in 2 halves of football says it all.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:10 pm
by wilks_bfc
Simple mathematics

4-5-1 = 0
4-4-2 = 5

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:11 pm
by Lord Beamish
What a partnership they’ll make for the next eight games of the season.

And when Defour and Brady are back next season, we could be filling our boots.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:13 pm
by bob-the-scutter
Lord Beamish wrote:
And when Defour and Brady are back next season, we could be filling our boots.
Instead of our underpants!

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:15 pm
by SlidingTackle
wilks_bfc wrote:Simple mathematics

4-5-1 = 0
4-4-2 = 5
Can I be the first to say your arithmetic is dire! :lol:

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:15 pm
by chekhov
bob-the-scutter wrote:Instead of our underpants!
Very poor.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:25 pm
by KRBFC
They were excellent today, really good link up.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:27 pm
by cutsy123
see how far we can get at nil nil

tire them out

bring on wood and bang

sean dyche is god

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:31 pm
by Safron
Hindsight :lol:

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:32 pm
by Claretmatt4
bob-the-scutter wrote:Instead of our underpants!
:-D

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:33 pm
by burnley007
cutsy123 wrote:see how far we can get at nil nil

tire them out

bring on woods and bang

sean dyche is god

THERE'S NO S!!!
IT'S WOOD!!!

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:33 pm
by Caernarfon_Claret
wilks_bfc wrote:Simple mathematics

4-5-1 = 0
4-4-2 = 5

Can I have that in binary?

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:33 pm
by boiledclaret
Can't argue with that. It was funny watching West Ham blow up as well. :lol:

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:34 pm
by cutsy123
burnley007 wrote:THERE'S NO S!!!
IT'S WOOD!!!
edited just to ensure you get your full 8 hours tonight

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:36 pm
by 3putt
Vino blanco wrote:Should be starting every game

Without a doubt. Particularly with the position we are in.

Starting Hendrick in a 4-5-1 ahead of Woods in a 4-4-2 is bizarre.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:37 pm
by gawthorpe_view
Wood might not yet have a full match in him after quite a lengthy lay-off.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:38 pm
by ecc
Burnley striker Chris Wood to MOTD: "What was going through my mind? Hopefully they wouldn't stop the game.

"It's a tough situation, I can sympathise with the fans. They just want to see their team win. It's tough for them at the moment but they need to stick with the players.

"You don't want that to happen on the pitch, it creates problems and safety issues. We were fine, they were just voicing their frustration."

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:40 pm
by SGr
4-5-1 can work, but Hendrick isn’t the man to play ahead of the two centre mids. 4-4-2 until the end of the season then make the necessary additions in summer

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:41 pm
by 3putt
What a partnership.

Barnes in the form of his life and Wood an outstanding striker.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:41 pm
by FactualFrank
SGr wrote:4-5-1 can work, but Hendrick isn’t the man to play ahead of the two centre mids. 4-4-2 until the end of the season then make the necessary additions in summer
This reminds me a bit of the Ben Mee scenario, when everybody knew he wasn't a left back, but a forced decision made SD make the move. I feel he's not seeing this with Hendrick either and it'll only happen when it's a forced move.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:47 pm
by claretandy
Don't worry, Claretspice will be along shortly with an essay about how you're all wrong and Hendrick was MOM again :lol:

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:01 pm
by lrac
claretandy wrote:Don't worry, Claretspice will be along shortly with an essay about how you're all wrong and Hendrick was MOM again :lol:
On the tube .I see nothing changes on here
,spice is a decent bloke .and thanks to the five clarets on the same tube as me.utc

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:03 pm
by Siddo
3putt wrote:Without a doubt. Particularly with the position we are in.

Starting Hendrick in a 4-5-1 ahead of Woods in a 4-4-2 is bizarre.
Have you seen the result?

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:12 pm
by 3putt
Siddo wrote:Have you seen the result?
Yes - have you not been able to find it? West Ham 0-3 Burnley.

Absolutely fantastic result in a fantastic season.

Watched the game (maybe you should of).
.
For the small minded among you, I am not complaining about anything. Simply responding to the post. Last week, Wood came on at half time for Hendrick and it completely changed the game in our favour. Today Wood came on for Hendrick for the last 30 or so, and he and Barnes destroyed them.

This suggests to me we are somewhat more effective playing a 4-4-2 with Wood and Barnes.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:19 pm
by Zom Zom
And on a day when all the media focus from the stadium will be on West Ham's neanderthal community, we really need to stick to the football. Thank goodness for this site. The BBC is all over the troubles. Well, I'm sorry, but none of it is our business, all I'm interested in (Providing all involved are safe and unhurt) and we won 0-3.

Burnley, Sean, lads, BRILLIANT STUFF.
Thank you from the bottom of my claret and blue heart.

Barnes and Wood. What a combination. Arsene, 7th beckons..

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:19 pm
by SGr
FactualFrank wrote:This reminds me a bit of the Ben Mee scenario, when everybody knew he wasn't a left back, but a forced decision made SD make the move. I feel he's not seeing this with Hendrick either and it'll only happen when it's a forced move.
Agree. Dyche I think will see it that Wood as an impact sub works, not that he deserves the start

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:25 pm
by paulus the woodgnome
Fantastic result. UTC! However, it is should HAVE, not should of.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:26 pm
by Jakubs Tash
Barnes and Wood were a real handful this afternoon. They seem to be great foils for one another.

I like Hendrick. Good footballer. But he definietly HASN'T been playing as a 3rd CM like a few posters have been suggesting on here - he has clearly been playing as a deeper forward. Therefore, we might as well have a forward in that position...

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:28 pm
by Safron
Horses for courses hard to knock dyche today with the result

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:31 pm
by Lowbankclaret
Having watched the highlights we could have been 2 down by half time.
Had we played 4-4-2 WH could have been out of sight by half time.
Give SD the credit he deserves, and Nick Pope for the saves.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:32 pm
by Lancasterclaret
I know its not what people want to hear, but we were also good for the first half last week.

Its certainly an effective change to make, and I wonder if it would work as well from the start.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:35 pm
by Lowbankclaret
I agree Lancaster, keeping us in the game till 60 minutes and then unleash the duo.
WH could have overrun us if we played 4-4-2 from the start

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:39 pm
by BennyD
Whilst I agree with the sentiments of most posters, bringing Wood on as a sub seems to throw the opposition off their game; Everton last week who were better 1st half and Sham this week who were, again, better first half. Starting with Wood may not have such a favourable outcome. Leave it to SD, he knows best and can do no wrong.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:42 pm
by 3putt
Lancasterclaret wrote:I know its not what people want to hear, but we were also good for the first half last week.

Its certainly an effective change to make, and I wonder if it would work as well from the start.
We were the better team until they scored last week and then they dominated up until half time.

We don't know how well it would work starting a 4-4-2 with Barnes and Wood, but I suspect it would be extremely effective.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:46 pm
by MrClaretandBlue
According to Opta Stats, Chris Wood is the first Premier League substitute to be involved in three goals (2 goals, 1 assist) since Steven Naismith in 2015.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:47 pm
by 3putt
Lowbankclaret wrote:Having watched the highlights we could have been 2 down by half time.
Had we played 4-4-2 WH could have been out of sight by half time.
Give SD the credit he deserves, and Nick Pope for the saves.
Having watched the full game, I would say that they battered us for 35 minutes or so. The reason they were not 2 up at this point was down to a combination of poor finishing and Pope's excellence.

Starting Barnes and Wood in a 4-4-2 would of stopped their dominance and given them a more to think about.

Attack is often the best form of defence.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:52 pm
by Lowbankclaret
3putt wrote:Having watched the full game, I would say that they battered us for 35 minutes or so. The reason they were not 2 up at this point was down to a combination of poor finishing and Pope's excellence.

Starting Barnes and Wood in a 4-4-2 would of stopped their dominance and given them a more to think about.

Attack is often the best form of defence.
That’s certainly a valid argument.

Having had it work two games on the bounce, I would be trying it again next game.

But I do take your point and it’s valid

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:53 pm
by JohnMac
When SD hasn't brought on a sub when trying to hold onto a 1 goal lead, or for a point or worse, when a goal behind, some of those decisions have been impossible to fathom. It is frustrating for him as well as us when what he expects to happen gets ripped away, Arsenal, Liverpool, Southampton et al but these past 2 games the tactics may not have been popular but they have been absolutely spot on.

I hope SD and the players get the credit they are due and it isn't overshadowed by the crap elsewhere on the pitch.

Before the trouble started and before SD sent on Wood I just got a sense we were starting to get a grip on the game and had an in play bet on us winning. Being a Burnley fan, I cashed in as soon as we went 2-0 up though, you know, just in case :lol: :lol:

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:07 pm
by boatshed bill
Lowbankclaret wrote:Having watched the highlights we could have been 2 down by half time.
Had we played 4-4-2 WH could have been out of sight by half time.
Give SD the credit he deserves, and Nick Pope for the saves.
Absolutely, unless those first half highlights were biased, it looked like we were very lucky to hang on to 0-0.
But the result totally justifies the selection and tactics

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:10 pm
by 3putt
Lowbankclaret wrote:That’s certainly a valid argument.

Having had it work two games on the bounce, I would be trying it again next game.

But I do take your point and it’s valid

The results speak for themselves so you can't argue against the same line up next time. I would just like to see Barnes and Wood starting to see how it would work from the start. I think we would destroy a lot of teams, particularly one's such as West Brom.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:15 pm
by Lowbankclaret
JohnMac wrote:When SD hasn't brought on a sub when trying to hold onto a 1 goal lead, or for a point or worse, when a goal behind, some of those decisions have been impossible to fathom. It is frustrating for him as well as us when what he expects to happen gets ripped away, Arsenal, Liverpool, Southampton et al but these past 2 games the tactics may not have been popular but they have been absolutely spot on.

I hope SD and the players get the credit they are due and it isn't overshadowed by the crap elsewhere on the pitch.

Before the trouble started and before SD sent on Wood I just got a sense we were starting to get a grip on the game and had an in play bet on us winning. Being a Burnley fan, I cashed in as soon as we went 2-0 up though, you know, just in case :lol: :lol:
Yep true fan, I would have cashed out too.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:17 pm
by bartons baggage
The Barnes goal actually gave me Wood. :D

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:57 pm
by boiledclaret
A lot of the link up play was excellent. Granted, they made a poor defense look poor, but they ripped them to bits.
I enjoyed Lennon's miskick for the goal as well, nice bit of deserved luck. :D

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:01 pm
by thelaughingclaret
The last two games shows what can happen when Dyche makes a sub before 85 minuets. My mind goes back to Southampton and what could’ve been. I just hope Dyche and his staff stick to what they’ve done these last 2 games from now on.

Re: Barnes and Wood

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:46 pm
by TheFamilyCat
The argument is all based on 4-5-1 with Hendrick or 4-4-2 with Wood.

I think we can compromise with Wood and Barnes starting but in a 4-5-1, or 4-4-1-1 with Barnes playing a bit deeper than Wood. As and when the game situation dictates, Barnes can play further up the pitch and go 4-4-2.