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signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:32 pm
by claretnproud
which players from the bottom 4 clubs do you think we should be looking at signing?

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:38 pm
by bfccrazy
Shaqiri - Zaha - Rondon - Tadic - Austin - Gabbiadini - Allen - McArthur - Rondon - Chadli

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:42 pm
by Sidney1st
I'd have a look at Oliver Burke and Redmond.

Potentially Shaqiri and Tadic.
Then cast an eye over their centre backs.

The rest can go somewhere else.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:47 pm
by boyyanno
Burke would be a decent signing. Seems inevitable that we will go back for Dawson again.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:04 pm
by Cleveleys_claret
Stephens, ward prowse, romeu, hojhberg all from southampton. Good team rank poor manager

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:06 pm
by KeighleyClaret
bfccrazy wrote:Shaqiri - Zaha - Rondon - Tadic - Austin - Gabbiadini - Allen - McArthur - Rondon - Chadli
Rondon and his twin brother?

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:18 pm
by Cleveleys_claret
Also although they wont be relegated Lookman at Everton seems to be available and would be an amazing signing for us

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:23 pm
by Firthy
Shaqiri, Rondon, Tadic, Gabbiadini, Ward-Prowse, Burke, Redmond, Dawson

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:37 pm
by claretnproud
I like the idea of Rondon. When you consider that Dyche improves virtually all players he could easily be a 10-12 goals a season man for us. I think his form at West Brom is probably more down to their poor team than him. He looked very good 12 months ago.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:42 pm
by SGr
Shaqiri, Redmond, Ward-Prowse, Dawson (back up) would be the players I’d take

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:44 pm
by Barry_Chuckle
Not Dawson for me, that ship should have sailed........ he had his chance to join a progressing club and chose to sign a new deal with WBA.

Wasn't overly impressed with him yesterday anyway 8-)

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:48 pm
by Claretmatt4
Ward-Prowse is a good shout. Young British talent, surely impressed by the number of England internationlas we've had recently. It's no longer a negative, playing for us, in terms of International recognition. JWP seems to fit the bill.

Shaqiri potentially too good for us but what a clever player. I think he's the kind of player we can go for if we get in Europe.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:52 pm
by claptrappers_union
Brunt?

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:54 pm
by Claretmatt4
claptrappers_union wrote:Brunt?
I'd have had him a few seasons ago but not sure he's good enough now. Worse and older than Gudmundsson and Brady. Good dead ball taker though.

Potentially for depth but might command a significant wage relative to his importance in the squad.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:54 pm
by IndigoLake
My wildcard choice is Jesé. He impressed me when I saw him for Real Madrid but hasn't featured too much for Stoke.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:24 pm
by CombatClaret
Quite a few decent individuals in those teams but they will be picked apart.

Rondon, Shaqiri etc: Players with a few proven seasons of quality and still in form will be highly sought after by the under performing teams with bigger wage bills, Everton, West Ham, Palace.
I've lauded JWP as a signing for a while but his young age and the potential for big re-sale will make him attractive to lots of teams.

If I was Leicester I'd have Shaqiri marked as a Mahrez replacement and bank the rest.

Redmond, Austin(injury worries make others avoid?), Chadli, Brunt, Dawson I could see us being able to get.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:26 pm
by IanMcL
KeighleyClaret wrote:Rondon and his twin brother?
Swings and Rondonabouts!

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:37 pm
by Lord Beamish
It’s pure fantasy, but if Palace were to go down, I’d love to get Zaha up here. I think Dyche would make him an excellent player.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:38 pm
by Rightfoot
Redmond and Rondon

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:55 pm
by levraiclaret
Barry_Chuckle wrote:Not Dawson for me, that ship should have sailed........ he had his chance to join a progressing club and chose to sign a new deal with WBA.

Wasn't overly impressed with him yesterday anyway 8-)
If we signed Dawson, we would have a player that I actively disliked. Not for me.

Pascal Gross from Brighton would be a signing I would like.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:07 pm
by Spike
Zaha didn’t like water up north and his wages are too much
Ward prowse Redmond;

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:43 pm
by Vegas Claret
never mind relegated Prem Teams - Deportivo look like going down from La Liga and I'd be in for Emre Colak, really really good player.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:30 pm
by DuckworthsEA
Barry_Chuckle wrote:Not Dawson for me, that ship should have sailed........ he had his chance to join a progressing club and chose to sign a new deal with WBA.

Wasn't overly impressed with him yesterday anyway 8-)
Agreed.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:36 pm
by BurnleyFC
Gabbiadini has always looked good everytime I’ve seen Southampton play and he still has plenty of time on his side.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:42 pm
by Saxoman
bfccrazy wrote:Shaqiri - Zaha - Rondon - Tadic - Austin - Gabbiadini - Allen - McArthur - Rondon - Chadli
I suppose all these will take pay cuts just for the honour of playing for Burnley?

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:43 pm
by bfccrazy
Saxoman wrote:I suppose all these will take pay cuts just for the honour of playing for Burnley?
As opposed to taking pay cuts for getting relegated?

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:45 pm
by Saxoman
bfccrazy wrote:As opposed to taking pay cuts for getting relegated?
Burnley will be their only alternative?

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:48 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Won't all the lads who have been mentioned be on more than our current squad?

Burke is an interesting one, but he's definitely stalled since his cracking start at Forest.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:30 pm
by utc1882
That Jonathan Leko looks good for the future only 18 played for England at all levels won player of the month for premier league 2. Currently on loan at Bristol city where he hasnt did the best with 11 appearances 0 goals but a youngster with a bit off experience with 27 professional appearances. cant imagine we'd pay ridiculous for him

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:30 pm
by Longsidejono
That josh Sims is going to be a good player get him while he’s young! Very direct and quick decent shot on him

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:35 pm
by CFS
Not from the prem but when Brighton tried signing wigans Nick Powell in Jan I found it strange but watching him since then he looks a decent player who could step up in the hendrick role.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:14 am
by Sidney1st
CFS wrote:Not from the prem but when Brighton tried signing wigans Nick Powell in Jan I found it strange but watching him since then he looks a decent player who could step up in the hendrick role.
I suspect Powell has found his level outside of the PL.

I'm sure I heard something about his attitude towards training being a bit suspect a few years ago.
He looked a cracking player in his first loan spell at Wigan then his career stalled after two other loan spells.
That UTD move wasn't a good one for him in hindsight.

He needs to do something more I suspect to get a look in here.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:56 am
by cricketfieldclarets
With Powell, the drop down the leagues may be the wake up he needs to apply himself before becoming one of many wasted talents. Either that or he is a league one player. That said, don't think he offers more than Hendrick from his experience at a higher level to date.

From the current bottom three:

Redmond and Gabiaddini would be a good shout from Southampton, especially if we get in the europa league. Along with possibly Ward Prowse. Some good players there but didnt work under Pellegrino and be surpsised if it does under Hughes. None of them seem like particularly troublesome players.

WBA Rondon is about it.

Stoke probably only Allen and Shaqiri. And despite what some will say, he is a grafter who has unbelievable talent. I would have fancied Martins Indi but god knows whats happened with him.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:26 am
by PLTMGMBJ
Pretty much echo the above. Shaquiri, Rondon and Allen. Gabbiadini as well if only because he is a natural finisher but not necessarily a Dyche type player.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:48 am
by superdimitri
It's hard to choose players that would be happy with being paid at most £40,000 a week. I'm sure many who will get relegated will be on more than twice that.

So many good players though.
Dawson - great versatility and replacement for Bardsley.
Hernandez - very good goalscorer even if we mainly use him as an impact sub.
Lanzini - a proper number 10 to compete with Hendrick.
Soares - replacement for Bardsley
Antonio
McArthur
Milivojević
Townsend
Zaha
Redmond
Puncheon - versatility in attack
Fer
Dyer
Mooy
Shaqiri
Ireland (another Hendrick competitor, possibly)
Hogg (dyche favourite)

I'm sure there's lots more too. Doubt we can afford most of those though.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:06 am
by CharlieinNewMexico
Personally love Puncheon. Massively underrated but getting a bit long in the tooth.

Puncheon above our weight?

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:42 am
by nyclaret
James Ward-Prowse would be an excelling signing IMO. He comes across as a Dyche player. Brilliant at set-pieces and he'll have seen the progress Dyche has made with our current English players.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:01 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
They will be taking a paycut regardless. May as well take that and stay in the prem spotlight...

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:40 pm
by Shore claret
Also bear in mind Mr Dyches knack for paying not a lot for an under performing player, he could be plotting to nick a few lesser thought of players.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:10 pm
by JohnMac
Most of those players mentioned are probably already outside of our wage structure, not because of their talent but because of other Club's stupidity.

Charlie Austin was an absolute legend in the making and our best goal scorer in decades but he really is too prone to injury. Shaquiri as talented as he is would upset the status quo.

Ward-Prouse looks London bound for no other reason than he is from the south coast.

I can see Redmond at Wolves on a very large salary.

I'll go with not losing any of our main squad and trusting the board to get 2 or 3 of Dyches targets in.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:55 pm
by houseboy
claretnproud wrote:I like the idea of Rondon. When you consider that Dyche improves virtually all players he could easily be a 10-12 goals a season man for us. I think his form at West Brom is probably more down to their poor team than him. He looked very good 12 months ago.
He wasn't too shabby on Saturday.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:03 pm
by jlup1980
Dawson would be worth a look without a doubt. I think he'd fit into our ethos really well. Oliver Burke as our 4th choice winger behind Brady, JBG and Lennon?

Shaquiri would be phenomenal if Dyche can get the best out of him; the guy has genuine quality and could play on either wing or even as the number 10 at a push. Can't see us paying his wages though - he'll be on a lot of money!! We might be able to tempt him with Europa League football though. I'm not sure Joe Allen would be an upgrade on anything we already have.

I'm not sure there's anyone at Southampton I'd take. Redmond would be good, Gabbiadini maybe? James Ward-Prowse will move somewhere bigger than us. He's a very good prospect. Other than that I'm struggling! None of there players appear to have any heart and that's something Dyche wants at the very least.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:42 pm
by Foulthrow
BurnleyFC wrote:Gabbiadini has always looked good everytime I’ve seen Southampton play and he still has plenty of time on his side.
Nonsense. He was at Derby County back in the nineties so he must be nearly 50 now. :D

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:47 pm
by Dyched
Ive been impressed with the young man Kennedy at Newcastle. I know he’s on loan there from Chelsea but cant see him realistically playing for them.

Shaqiri is a good shout. Im always surprissef with his workrate. Always thought of him as lazy.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:56 pm
by RocketLawnChair
I thought Shaquiri was a disgrace at times for Stoke at Arsenal on Sunday. Constantly waving his arms about telling everyone else what they were doing wrong. At one point he gave a simple ball away stood still then fell out with Diouf because he closed the man down who Shaquiri should have actually chased down, who then passed to the Arsenal man now in acres of space where Diouf should really have stayed and covered.

Wouldn’t have the obnoxious little tw@ anywhere near our place.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:25 pm
by maidenover
Shay Given would rather get Shaquiri in a headlock.....he's clearly not a team player

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Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:58 pm
by UpTheClaretsFCBK
Being realistic about who we can potentially afford to bring in. People like Shaqiri and Tadic (Not a chance in hell they’d sign for us).

West Brom:
James McLean
Matt Phillips
Craig Dawson

Stoke:
Joe Allen
Ryan Shawcross
Ramadan Sobhi

Southampton:
Shane Long
Nathan Redmond
Oriol Romeu

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:30 pm
by paulus the woodgnome
Shane Long?

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:58 pm
by Blackrod
Shane Long FFS thought we are trying to improve the squad.

Not sure there are so many from these teams we should take. Maybe the odd one. I'd prefer someone with something to prove and who wants to seize the chance like Charlie Taylor not some failed has been on stupid money.

Re: signing players from this seasons relegated prem teams

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:02 am
by paulus the woodgnome
I'd rather sign one of the best young players from the Championship.