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Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:47 pm
by claretnproud
so do you pronounce it ARMONDS or ALMONDS.
Almonds all the way for me.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:50 pm
by Steve1956
:roll: Almonds

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:51 pm
by ColonelCool
That's just nuts.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:52 pm
by Smallpaul
Dyche or ditche

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:55 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
I'm agate, Almonds.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:55 pm
by spadesclaret
Armonds - just as I would pronounce almshouse as armshouse.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:57 pm
by ColonelCool
claretnproud wrote:so do you pronounce it ARMONDS or ALMONDS.
Almonds all the way for me.
Almonds. Not sure why anybody would pronounce it armonds unless they think thats how you spell it.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:59 pm
by CharlieinNewMexico
Olmunds

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:00 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
spadesclaret wrote:Armonds - just as I would pronounce almshouse as armshouse.

You're a posh sort though. :)

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:05 pm
by spadesclaret
Bin Ont Turf wrote:You're a posh sort though. :)
Well, yes. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

How do you pronounce alms?

PS - may we please dispel this rumour that I am posh. If in doubt just ask !Aiboforcen.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:09 pm
by morpheus2
Wow!

I was in the charity shop today after work and almond oil came up in a conversation, she said "you could try using armond oil"....I left the shop toying with both alternative pronunciations in my head - armond almond armond almond - I had never ever before given this a thought.

I've only just got my chores done and decided to Google almond oil to see if it would do the required job, still playing around with both pronunciations in my head. As I was searching I opened another tab up to see what was going on on Uptheclarets and saw this thread straight away.

This kind of thing is happening to me way way way too frequently these days :shock: :roll:

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:10 pm
by martin_p
Spades has the correct British pronunciation. Ol-monds is the American way of saying the word.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:11 pm
by Walton
It's definitely Almond.

I also used to go out with a girl from Chicago who introduced me to the American pronunciation of Apricot. WTF.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:13 pm
by !aiboforceN
Bin Ont Turf wrote:You're a posh sort though. :)
You've clearly never met her. I've known her for more than 50 years - and never once did Spades even approximate "posh" !

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:15 pm
by spadesclaret
!aiboforceN wrote:You've clearly never met her. I've known her for more than 50 years - and never once did Spades even approximate "posh" !
There's no need to overdo it! :x :lol:

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:15 pm
by Caernarfon_Claret
My Alse.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:18 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
martin_p wrote:Spades has the correct British pronunciation. Ol-monds is the American way of saying the word.
What's the correct British pronunciation of Burnley?

Now try telling someone who was born and bred there what it is. :)

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:20 pm
by claretnproud
one word that throws a spanner in the works is PALM. almost no one calls it palm pronouncing the L. The yanks seem to pronounce the l as in arnold palmer .

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:44 pm
by martin_p
That Aussie bloke on Masterchef just pronounced it armond.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:45 pm
by claretnproud
take no notice of him, all his relatives were convicts.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:38 pm
by claptrappers_union
One of the funniest things I seen in my family is when my brother was dishing out some chocolates one Christmas. My dad asked him if there was any nuts in it, my brother inspected the packaging, turning it over, reading the the ingredients and small print and eventually replied, “I don’t know”.

My dad beginning to get frustrated snapped back and asked “well, what does it say on the packet?!” My brother looked again carefully and the front and replied “all monds”

Re: Almonds

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:50 pm
by HatfieldClaret
Walton wrote:It's definitely Almond.

I also used to go out with a girl from Chicago who introduced me to the American pronunciation of Apricot. WTF.

The wife's a Scot, she says appricut. Unculutred wench.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:10 am
by paulus the woodgnome
I believe the Marc Almond rumour might be fake news

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:18 am
by ColonelCool
The correct way to say it is "Aul-mond" - so the L is mentioned, just not as you'd expect. It's still mentioned though if you say it correctly.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:19 am
by thatdberight
It's not "Armond" though, is it? It's more "åmond", no?

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:21 am
by thatdberight
ColonelCool wrote:The correct way to say it is "Aul-mond" - so the L is mentioned, just not as you'd expect. It's still mentioned though if you say it correctly.
OED says the 'l' is silent.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:23 am
by ColonelCool
thatdberight wrote:It's not "Armond" though, is it? It's more "åmond", no?
That's even worse. I say more like "Arlmond". But Spades is meant to be an ex teacher and even she doesn't say it correctly, so what hope have the rest of us got.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:06 am
by spadesclaret
ColonelCool wrote: But Spades is meant to be an ex teacher and even she doesn't say it correctly, so what hope have the rest of us got.
1. Meant to be? What is that meant to mean? ;)

2. How do you know I don't say it correctly? I simply answered the OP's question which gave me a choice of two answers.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:15 am
by IanMcL
Arlmund

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:52 am
by ColonelCool
spadesclaret wrote:1. Meant to be? What is that meant to mean? ;)
2. How do you know I don't say it correctly? I simply answered the OP's question which gave me a choice of two answers.
You know you've hit a nerve when...

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:53 am
by ColonelCool
IanMcL wrote:Arlmund
You know you've hit a nerve with somebody who blows smoke up a person's backside when..

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:32 am
by Hipper
... he has piles?

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:15 am
by nil_desperandum
"Armond" - not for me, but what about:
Calm, embalm, palm, psalm, etc., so it would be quite feasible.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:21 am
by SalisburyClaret
Saw an ad on TV the other night - 2 American teenagers crash the car while arguing about whether it's Armunds or Amunds

The crash did not appear to be fatal unfortunately

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:59 am
by thatdberight
nil_desperandum wrote:"Armond" - not for me, but what about:
Calm, embalm, palm, psalm, etc., so it would be quite feasible.
There's no 'r' in the pronunciation of any of those unless you're from Baarth. It's a long 'a' sound.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:18 am
by nil_desperandum
thatdberight wrote:There's no 'r' in the pronunciation of any of those unless you're from Baarth. It's a long 'a' sound.
You're totally correct. A more phonetic way would perhaps be to write "C- ah- m". (Was going to post similar earlier).
However, the main point is that the "l" isn't pronounced in any of those examples, so there's no reason why it has to be in "almond".

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:38 am
by thatdberight
nil_desperandum wrote:You're totally correct. A more phonetic way would perhaps be to write "C- ah- m". (Was going to post similar earlier).
However, the main point is that the "l" isn't pronounced in any of those examples, so there's no reason why it has to be in "almond".
Sorry. I understand now and agree. I'm going to keep saying åmond.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:38 pm
by houseboy
spadesclaret wrote:Well, yes. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

How do you pronounce alms?

PS - may we please dispel this rumour that I am posh. If in doubt just ask !Aiboforcen.
Same way as legs ('egs).

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:40 pm
by houseboy
While we're on the subject why do we (correctly) pronounce book 'buck' but we don't pronounce boot as 'butt'?

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:02 pm
by thatdberight
houseboy wrote:While we're on the subject why do we (correctly) pronounce book 'buck' but we don't pronounce boot as 'butt'?
It's not 'buck' (rhymes with 'luck', 'chuck') but a separate sub-group of 'u' & 'oo' words like wolf, sugar. Who knows why. The roots are quite dissimilar so they probably dragged some of their origin with them. Most people these days seem to say 'booʔ' anyway so the vowel sound is the least of our problems.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:05 pm
by DustyBawls
I say it as 'allmond'. The L is definitely not silent when I say it. In fact, I say, "Almond with an L".

I don't really.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:32 pm
by No Ney Never
Didn't they sing a song about a long haired lover from Liverpool?

Re: Almonds

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:49 pm
by houseboy
thatdberight wrote:It's not 'buck' (rhymes with 'luck', 'chuck') but a separate sub-group of 'u' & 'oo' words like wolf, sugar. Who knows why. The roots are quite dissimilar so they probably dragged some of their origin with them. Most people these days seem to say 'booʔ' anyway so the vowel sound is the least of our problems.
As someone who has done a good deal of writing I find language fascinating. Even as an 'insider' I think the English language must be awful to learn, having so many words spelt the same but with different meanings and emphases. I asked a guy once what he thought of semantics and he said he had nothing against Jews.
My personal favourite is the word Psychotherapist: if you change the emphasis it becomes Psycho the Rapist, which seems kind of apt really.

Aah, fun with words.

Re: Almonds

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:04 pm
by starting_11
Aa-rlmunds

So both. At the same time