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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:51 pm

Let his side down tonight. Incapable under pressure.
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Re: Guardiola

Post by Dyched » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:55 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Let his side down tonight. Incapable under pressure.
He gets rattled doesn’t he. Spurs next, which is gonna be hilarious.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:56 pm

Clearly cant cope when its not going his way. Why blow his top at a spanish referee at half time when his team are in control?

Dyche would be so much more dignified in that situation. Hell even Mourinho would.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by mdd2 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:57 pm

Could they now lose four on the bounce?

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Re: Guardiola

Post by Damo » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:58 pm

Surely Dyche is nailed on for manager of the season now

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Re: Guardiola

Post by Pearcey » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:58 pm

And to think he told Dyche to stop talking to the 4th official and let him get on with his job.
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Re: Guardiola

Post by KRBFC » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:59 pm

Lost 3 games in a row, what a fraud... should be sacked, worst manager in PL history.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by Wilf Mbanga » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:59 pm

But he’s the best coach in the world. How dare you criticise Pep. He’s only spent £500m since he deigned us with his presence. It’s not enough for a man of his obvious talents.
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Re: Guardiola

Post by tim_noone » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:00 pm

Pearcey wrote:And to think he told Dyche to stop talking to the 4th official and let him get on with his job.
Boatshedbill as always been right about him being a twonk!

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Re: Guardiola

Post by Rick_Muller » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:04 pm

KRBFC wrote:Lost 3 games in a row, what a fraud... should be sacked, worst manager in PL history.
I think he’s been found out... won’t be long before he’s ridiculed like Jose

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Re: Guardiola

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:04 pm

KRBFC wrote:Lost 3 games in a row, what a fraud... should be sacked, worst manager in PL history.
Its not that. Its when the pressure is on he cant do it.

Liverpool have gone for it in 2 games and played an excellent game tonight. And beat them in those three. (Cant remember the other game).

Again, under pressure Saturday they crumbled.

Said all season. Dont understand why teams dont put the keeper under pressure or why they dont go for it. Defensively theyre very average.
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Re: Guardiola

Post by KRBFC » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:08 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Its not that. Its when the pressure is on he cant do it.

Liverpool have gone for it in 2 games and played an excellent game tonight. And beat them in those three. (Cant remember the other game).

Again, under pressure Saturday they crumbled.

Said all season. Dont understand why teams dont put the keeper under pressure or why they dont go for it. Defensively theyre very average.
Missing key players in key areas, it happens. That Laporte looked awful at left back and they missed a fit Aguero upfront. Apart from that, Pep is a fraud, forget the trophies he's won, he's a fraud, Burnley fans said so.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by tim_noone » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:08 pm

A Sean dyche team would never lose there dicipline like city did tonight.
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Re: Guardiola

Post by Dyched » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:09 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Its not that. Its when the pressure is on he cant do it.

Liverpool have gone for it in 2 games and played an excellent game tonight. And beat them in those three. (Cant remember the other game).

Again, under pressure Saturday they crumbled.

Said all season. Dont understand why teams dont put the keeper under pressure or why they dont go for it. Defensively theyre very average.
Spot on that cfc.

Liverpools midfield was overstretched, over run and out of the game first half. Yet Klopp kept it the same. No Aguero or Kompany, shocking.

This sums it up
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Re: Guardiola

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:12 pm

Its very hard to be as good as City have been this season.

I know its the norm to have a go at people who have a clue and know what they are doing, but he's run away with the league.

Winning the premier league, the FA Cup, the League Cup and the Champions League is almost impossibe, and with the calibre of managers and players in the opposition teams he's done well.

I'm guess we should just be privileged to see managers like Pep, Mourinho and Klopp (all in their own ways been v good this season) all in this league.
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Re: Guardiola

Post by Sidney1st » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:13 pm

All 3 managers have changed English football for the better.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by tiger76 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:14 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Its not that. Its when the pressure is on he cant do it.

Liverpool have gone for it in 2 games and played an excellent game tonight. And beat them in those three. (Cant remember the other game).

Again, under pressure Saturday they crumbled.

Said all season. Dont understand why teams dont put the keeper under pressure or why they dont go for it. Defensively theyre very average.
Spot on i think teams are clocking this now.

Fair do's they are walking the league but apart from the Carabao Cup Final when Arsenal didn't turn up their record in big games is average at best.

Players were jaded really :roll: their schedule hasn't been that heavy.

Real Madrid must be licking their lips at the semi-finalists.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:20 pm

KRBFC wrote:Missing key players in key areas, it happens. That Laporte looked awful at left back and they missed a fit Aguero upfront. Apart from that, Pep is a fraud, forget the trophies he's won, he's a fraud, Burnley fans said so.
His team are winning. On top. He loses his discipline. What example does that set? He shouldve laughed and jeed his lot up.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by KRBFC » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:23 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:His team are winning. On top. He loses his discipline. What example does that set? He shouldve laughed and jeed his lot up.
Laughed at a disgraceful disallowed goal when 3-0 down from the first leg? easier said than done, i'd have been raging if I were a City fan.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by Sidney1st » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:23 pm

You are raging...
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Re: Guardiola

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:27 pm

Ive not seen him this upset since Italy got knocked out.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by KRBFC » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:29 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Ive not seen him this upset since Italy got knocked out.
Another fixed game, completely rigged against the Italians.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by IanMcL » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:51 pm

That poor/wrong decision probably turned the whole tie. I think I might have been angry too! I don't like referees.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:05 am

KRBFC wrote:Laughed at a disgraceful disallowed goal when 3-0 down from the first leg? easier said than done, i'd have been raging if I were a City fan.
A top manager wouldve kept his cool. His side were in control. He dropped his guard there.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:15 am

Spoilt brat, used to having it all his own way and can't cope when it doesn't.

Not the first in football and won't be the last.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by 4:20 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:41 am

He really shot himself in the foot getting sent to the stands, he knew that ref was a twitcher. Was sorely missed by his team on the touchline in the second half. That type of boiling hot pressure required a much cooler head from Pep. I keep thinking of Dyche and how he is so intrinsic to our play, bellowing out his management from his technical area, we too would miss him dearly if the same were to happen in similar circumstances.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:46 am

Still early days in his project, he maybe needs another 400m to spend this summer.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by Lord Beamish » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:50 am

It’s certainly not the Procession to Home and European Glory that some were spraying their underpants about 3 months ago, is it?

Shame, shame.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:02 am

To be fair to Pep, over the two legs literally every major decision went against them.

He should have kept his cool but I think that decision was the one that broke the camels back as 2-0 at half time after a dominant first half makes the second half very different.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:05 am

Every decision?

Meanwhile they were dicked 5-1 over two games and lost to Liverpool earlier in the season.

Maybe, just maybe, Klopp knows how to set up his team against City.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by chekhov » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:29 am

It's wrong to call an incorrect decision "disgraceful". It was a mistake but it was also a mistake not to award a foul to Vandyche in the lead up to citi's goal. I've had enough of managers being graceless and lacking class in defeat. These types of infantile behaviour are just a terrible examples for our young folks.
And let's not kid ourselves it's not just Gardioler it's pretty much all managers. Even a certain manager close to home is no knight in shiny armour.
What it is is accepting mistakes as part of thé game. Référées havé à tough job these days. The job is an imperfect science and we should accept it as such.
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Re: Guardiola

Post by Spijed » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:13 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:To be fair to Pep, over the two legs literally every major decision went against them.
Except the one that led to Man City's goal when VVD was shoved off the ball. Man city supporters conveniently forget that one.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by KRBFC » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:18 am

Sidney1st wrote:Every decision?

Meanwhile they were dicked 5-1 over two games and lost to Liverpool earlier in the season.

Maybe, just maybe, Klopp knows how to set up his team against City.
No doubt Klopp is an excellent manager and the current Liverpool team is the 1 team you could see who would give City problems with the pace they have on the break. It certainly helped them with terrible decisions over 2 legs, the Salah goal in the 1st leg was clearly offside and the one last night was a clear goal, a 2 goal swing in Liverpools favour from the officials makes it a difficult task for any club side in the world.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:19 am

Refereeing decisions tend to even themselves out of the course of a Season.

City have done well to get a league and cup double, getting a treble or quadruple is very hard, only complete teams tend to do it, as in great defensively and in attack and there is usually a degree of luck.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:20 am

Spijed wrote:Except the one that led to Man City's goal when VVD was shoved off the ball. Man city supporters conveniently forget that one.
And the one where Ederson could've been sent off for raising his hands to Mane.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by Spijed » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:22 am

KRBFC wrote:No doubt Klopp is an excellent manager and the current Liverpool team is the 1 team you could see who would give City problems with the pace they have on the break. It certainly helped them with terrible decisions over 2 legs, the Salah goal in the 1st leg was clearly offside and the one last night was a clear goal, a 2 goal swing in Liverpools favour from the officials makes it a difficult task for any club side in the world.
And they shouldn't have been 1-0 up after two minutes when it was clearly a foul on VVD.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by KRBFC » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:22 am

chekhov wrote:It's wrong to call an incorrect decision "disgraceful". It was a mistake but it was also a mistake not to award a foul to Vandyche in the lead up to citi's goal. I've had enough of managers being graceless and lacking class in defeat. These types of infantile behaviour are just a terrible examples for our young folks.
And let's not kid ourselves it's not just Gardioler it's pretty much all managers. Even a certain manager close to home is no knight in shiny armour.
What it is is accepting mistakes as part of thé game. Référées havé à tough job these days. The job is an imperfect science and we should accept it as such.
I'm sorry but when there are PROFESSIONAL referees making basic errors they deserve to be criticised. If you are incompetent in any line of work, there is consequences and quite frankly some of the referees at the highest level shouldn't even be in the job. I was actually surprised when I saw Pep's post match interview, he was calm and congratulated Liverpool not the moaning grumpy agitated manager we've seen previously.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:25 am

KRBFC wrote:No doubt Klopp is an excellent manager and the current Liverpool team is the 1 team you could see who would give City problems with the pace they have on the break. It certainly helped them with terrible decisions over 2 legs, the Salah goal in the 1st leg was clearly offside and the one last night was a clear goal, a 2 goal swing in Liverpools favour from the officials makes it a difficult task for any club side in the world.
Could Jurgen become the new Pep?!

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Re: Guardiola

Post by KRBFC » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:26 am

Spijed wrote:And they shouldn't have been 1-0 up after two minutes when it was clearly a foul on VVD.
I'm not sure it was as clear as you're making out, big 6ft 4 central defender got tickled by Raheem Sterling.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by KRBFC » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:28 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Could Jurgen become the new Pep?!
I think Liverpool are the side most likely to challenge City next year, VVD is one of the best central defenders in the world and Naby Keita who's joining in the summer is very very good. 2 or 3 players short but Klopp is fantastic.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:36 am

KRBFC wrote:No doubt Klopp is an excellent manager and the current Liverpool team is the 1 team you could see who would give City problems with the pace they have on the break. It certainly helped them with terrible decisions over 2 legs, the Salah goal in the 1st leg was clearly offside and the one last night was a clear goal, a 2 goal swing in Liverpools favour from the officials makes it a difficult task for any club side in the world.
So you've no issue with decisions that went in City's favour?

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Re: Guardiola

Post by KRBFC » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:46 am

Sidney1st wrote:So you've no issue with decisions that went in City's favour?
The 2 biggest moments went against them, the difference between the others is it's opinion based, the 2 I mentioned are factually incorrect. I think over the 2 legs Liverpool probably deserved to go through, however goals change games, the 1st goal in the 1st leg was offside. If that goal is correctly not given, who knows what might have happened? maybe they wouldn't have needed to play such an attacking team in the 2nd leg and take chances which resulted in a weak defence and sucker punch from Salah. You're never going to agree, you're too anti Pep to even open your eyes and hold a sensible football debate as you've proved on every single thread about Pep.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by Goodclaret » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:57 am

When I saw Pep marching on to the pitch at HT I thought "good on you, get your players away from the ref, get them in the changing rooms, calm them and plan on winning the game" but, no, he had his hissy fit which will have passed on to the players around him. It would have affected the players composure and, as a manager, that has to be an error by Pep. He is a very, very good manager and his team have been unbelievable to watch this season but he does have a little "spoilt brat-iness" about him, especially when he's only lost about 5 games all season.

With regards the game itself, I thought Liverpool were fantastic. Got the 3 goal lead in the first half of the first leg then defended very well. They did ride their luck a little last night but saying the disallowed goal was an easy call isn't true in y opinion. Chris Foy was the studio ref and, having watched the replays a a few times he agreed the offside was correct. It was only after another 10 minutes or so that Foy realised the ball had come off Milner so the goal should have stood. Longest VAR decision ever!

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Re: Guardiola

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:01 am

KRBFC wrote:The 2 biggest moments went against them, the difference between the others is it's opinion based, the 2 I mentioned are factually incorrect. I think over the 2 legs Liverpool probably deserved to go through, however goals change games, the 1st goal in the 1st leg was offside. If that goal is correctly not given, who knows what might have happened? maybe they wouldn't have needed to play such an attacking team in the 2nd leg and take chances which resulted in a weak defence and sucker punch from Salah. You're never going to agree, you're too anti Pep to even open your eyes and hold a sensible football debate as you've proved on every single thread about Pep.
Shut up you absolute weapon :lol:

Liverpool outscored City, decisions went for and against both teams yet you're raging about the ones that went against City only.

Pep has been good for English football, so I'm not anti anyone despite your severely blinkered view about City.

We can have a sensible debate about Pep if you're willing to climb off his dick for a while, let me know when you're done riding it.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by Lord Beamish » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:26 am

Ah. A good old ding-dong between Closet Liverpool Fan Sidney and Pep Guardiola Devotee KRBFC. All in a Clarets’ Messageboard.
We are a Broad Church.
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Re: Guardiola

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:30 am

Not particularly a ding dong, just blinkered views from KRBFC who's probably busy sucking his dummy sat in the corner crying to himself that City lost and we're all horrible nasty Pep haters :lol: :lol:

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Re: Guardiola

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:32 am

Sidney1st turning a thread into a petty squabblefest, all while adopting some kind of high horse?

Never!

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Re: Guardiola

Post by Lord Beamish » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:36 am

In fairness, I can’t decide between Klopp and Guardiola which one I dislike the most. Guardiola’s moody petulance whenever things go against him, and the way Klopp’s zany mask slips to reveal a bitter visage whenever he’s got a perceived injustice to divest himself of, both leave me very cold indeed.
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Re: Guardiola

Post by NottsClaret » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:03 am

His football is great to watch, and he's definitely brought a lot to the Prem. But 'Fraudiola' just works so well, I'm going with that for my half-arsed pub opinion on him.

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Re: Guardiola

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:10 am

Spijed wrote:Except the one that led to Man City's goal when VVD was shoved off the ball. Man city supporters conveniently forget that one.
And the fact that Citehs keeper should have been sent off 1st half for repeatedly (4 or 5 times in succession) shoving Mane,with force, in the chest

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