Kevin Long..

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:58 pm

With Ben Mee out, and everyone quite chilled out about Long coming in, am I the only one a little concerned he will be playing probably the last 6 games?

I've seen comments a long the lines of "he's been solid", "not worried, he's been excellent when called upon", however I think he's been quite average.
He often gets sucked in to making a mus timed challenge, and with the masters of cheating here on Saturday, I can't help feeling he will again give away silly free kicks and possibly a penalty, which will cost us.

Commentators curse please...

mickleoverclaret · Post by **mickleoverclaret** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:02 pm

He's not as good as Ben Mee, but he's been decent enough. I'm more worried about what happens if him or Tarkowski get injured.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:06 pm

He was in a few national team of the weeks for his Watford performance.

Don’t worry about things you can't control.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:08 pm

Nope. Not concerned at all.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:09 pm

This weekend Charlie Taylor is CB, LB and Winger Cover.

But it's Ok, we have 4 goal keepers.

We would have to be seriously unlucky to get 1 of them riled out at this stage if the season, although it couod be worth Maguire or another giving Tarky a leg breaker on 90 mins, strengthens his chance of going the world cup, and Leicester finishing in Europe, I wouldn't put it past someone.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:12 pm

Not in any way concerned.
Kev is no more likely to bugger things up the other 10 Clarets on the pitch.
He's an experienced player who's come in when required and done a better than good job.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:24 pm

There is a reason our last four managers have kept him on. He can play.
No worries on my part.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:27 pm

It's clear that we need a good CB in. Mee seems to have this recurring problem and whilst Long is a decent enough player we need another good CB

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:35 pm

Kevin long is a decent defender with international experience. I can't get my head around the idea that he is any more likely to give away a free-kick or penalty than any of our other defenders.
my only concern is that, if Mee leaves, we will need two top class central defenders in one transfer window.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:41 pm

Good to see Long getting his well deserved chance. Dyche going for Long with Mee not willing to sign a new contract and rightly so. No one bigger than the club

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:44 pm

I'm always concerned when one of the Four Tops is out.

Long has done well when he's come in though, so it's not quite brown underpants time.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:54 pm

Me too B.O.T....but even with Mee out, I'll be there...

bfc1984 · Post by **bfc1984** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:11 pm

Been a more than adequate replacement in the past.Just need one big performance from him Saturday,if we win this we are nailed on for 7th even if we was to lose last 5 imo.

Grimsby Claret · Post by **Grimsby Claret** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:24 pm

Long is quality. Really hope Ben Mee signs a new contract.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:59 pm

Thank goodness for that. Panic over, I was getting tetchy, but not everyone can be wrong I suppose.

I'll dig out the passport.

I can't wait for July

We're all going on a European tour
A European tour
A European tour

ten bellies · Post by **ten bellies** » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:16 am

No worries

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:54 pm

Bump

Outstanding today

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:56 pm

And a cracking header, great leap to climb above the defence.

RammyClaret61 · Post by **RammyClaret61** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:07 pm

Excellent today.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:21 pm

So happy for Kev i am sure this means a lot to him

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:22 pm

We've all got to admire Kevin Long. Always the 3rd choice CB. Always the guy who has to "fill in" on either right or left depending on who is out injured (or suspended).

When required he's always done a "decent"job and now he's getting a run of games he's started to deliver at the other end: an assist for Cork's goal against Watford last week; a great goal this week.

We've no need to work about Kevin Long.

Of course, we need to make sure we have other CB options especially if anyone moves on.

UTC

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:47 pm

It makes me wonder. Can we take any defender or goalkeeper, literally anyone, and train him up under Sean Dyche to England standard? Trippier, Keane, Tarkowski, Long (OK - Ireland), Pope, Heaton. Even Mee, though he's consistently overlooked. None of them were considered potential England players when we signed them, though you could have made a case that Keane, Mee and Trippier had the potential if they got the chance.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:48 pm

Another excellent game today.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:49 pm

He did really well today, kept his focus, did the basics ever so well.

He's a bit slow on the turn (and that would be exposed in a less rigid set up), and I'm not sure he reads the game and anticipates things as well as Tarky or Mee do, but he's a match for anyone for pace in a straight line and when the game is in front of him, he's commanding. That header for his goal was as emphatic an attacking header as we've seen at Burnley in years - there wasn't too much pace on the cross and he got terrific power into it.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:52 pm

Agree with doing the basics well where at times Tarkowski got a bit carried away trying to flick it one which nearly led to a goal.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:59 pm

dsr wrote:It makes me wonder. Can we take any defender or goalkeeper, literally anyone, and train him up under Sean Dyche to England standard? Trippier, Keane, Tarkowski, Long (OK - Ireland), Pope, Heaton. Even Mee, though he's consistently overlooked. None of them were considered potential England players when we signed them, though you could have made a case that Keane, Mee and Trippier had the potential if they got the chance.

Flanagan and Darikwa though.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:02 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Flanagan and Darikwa though.

We got impatient there

Another year or two ...

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:07 pm

his distribution was excellent too

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:20 pm

Outplayed Tarks today, and scored. Been excellent whenever called on this season, but today he grew again.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:22 pm

Roy Keane scouting him today, for Ireland. I can't see Ireland dropping Duffy or Clark but a 3 at the back might work.

StuffyClaret · Post by **StuffyClaret** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:28 pm

One thing I noticed after he scored, he was the first player back in position before the restart....no messing around basking in the glory.

halfmanhalfbiscuit · Post by **halfmanhalfbiscuit** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:28 pm

He was very very good today.
I've said before that I've doubted him in the past and was wrong.
If we'd just signed him, after his preformance today, I'd be delighted.
A Premier League defender, as I've also said before I'm sure.
Pope was man of the match today. But on any other day it would have been Long.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:30 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Bump

Outstanding today

What did I tell you.

Commentators curse works

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:31 pm

My MOM today played like he's been there all season good player and Roy Kean would have been pleased with what he so

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:33 pm

I thought he was better than Tarks today, he's had some decent games and some terrible ones, today was probably his best game in a Burnley shirt though.

bfc1984 · Post by **bfc1984** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:36 pm

StuffyClaret wrote:One thing I noticed after he scored, he was the first player back in position before the restart....no messing around basking in the glory.

What do you expect the poor man would have to cup his ears when he ran to the crowd,poor man got so much stick for one bad game against Harry Kane one of the best?I was one of the first ones to stick up for the lad given his previous performances!

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:42 pm

£4.0m on fantasy football if you're quick

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:46 pm

Think people are getting carried away after today.

There is a reason why KL has made so few starts over a long period and that’s because he’s not good enough.

You have to be good on the ground as well as in the air.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:21 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:his distribution was excellent too

...because he’s learned to keep it nice and simple. Short passes to a player who has better distribution.

If it’s a physical battle then he tends to come out on top. Got the better of one of the more physical forwards in the league, Deeney, last week.

He’s developed very well under Dyche. Well done to him.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:25 pm

I thought we were all over the shop today at the back. Kevin and Tarks need to build an understanding. I love Kevin he will become a Burnley icon,our longest serving player.
Kev has been loyal to the club and the club has been loyal to Kev.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:38 pm

Top Claret wrote:I thought we were all over the shop today at the back. Kevin and Tarks need to build an understanding. I love Kevin he will become a Burnley icon,our longest serving player.
Kev has been loyal to the club and the club has been loyal to Kev.

I have to disagree. Defensively I thought we were terrific today. In my opinion, the issue was that the forwards weren’t retaining possession well enough. It’s all about opinions/perspective though.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:40 pm

Top Claret wrote:I thought we were all over the shop today at the back. Kevin and Tarks need to build an understanding. I love Kevin he will become a Burnley icon,our longest serving player.
Kev has been loyal to the club and the club has been loyal to Kev.

What? All over the shop at the back. No but we need a midfield protector in there.

I thought the defence en bloc was good today

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:39 pm

Leicester deserved a point, but for their poor finishing we would have been beaten

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:43 pm

Top Claret wrote:Leicester deserved a point, but for their poor finishing we would have been beaten

You mean poor defending.

That's how football works though.

triadclaret · Post by **triadclaret** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:53 pm

He has come on massively under Dyche. Why any negative comments about is baffling to me. Hes a proper player. Wouldn't want to start a season with Kevin as starting CB but as a back up, he has been nothing but a rock. So impressed.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:57 pm

' I thought we were all over the shop at the back today ' LOL

Kevin Long was excellent again today. Plays to his strenghths and will do me as no 3 centreback even if another comes in.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:01 pm

triadclaret wrote:Why any negative comments about is baffling to me.

You dont come on here much, do you?
If you did, you'd know it's infested with bellends.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:14 pm

Top Claret wrote:Leicester deserved a point, but for their poor finishing we would have been beaten

So they didn't deserve a point then.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:32 pm

Tall Paul wrote:So they didn't deserve a point then.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:53 am

South West Claret. wrote:Think people are getting carried away after today.

There is a reason why KL has made so few starts over a long period and that’s because he’s not good enough.

You have to be good on the ground as well as in the air.

What a load of testes. I can’t think of an occasion where Long has let us down. A fantastic professional who seems content to be part of a squad and always capable of stepping in when required.