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Kevin Long..

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:58 pm
by MACCA
With Ben Mee out, and everyone quite chilled out about Long coming in, am I the only one a little concerned he will be playing probably the last 6 games?

I've seen comments a long the lines of "he's been solid", "not worried, he's been excellent when called upon", however I think he's been quite average.
He often gets sucked in to making a mus timed challenge, and with the masters of cheating here on Saturday, I can't help feeling he will again give away silly free kicks and possibly a penalty, which will cost us.

Commentators curse please...

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:02 pm
by mickleoverclaret
He's not as good as Ben Mee, but he's been decent enough. I'm more worried about what happens if him or Tarkowski get injured.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:06 pm
by Quickenthetempo
He was in a few national team of the weeks for his Watford performance.

Don’t worry about things you can't control.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:08 pm
by ElectroClaret
Nope. Not concerned at all.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:09 pm
by MACCA
This weekend Charlie Taylor is CB, LB and Winger Cover.

But it's Ok, we have 4 goal keepers.

We would have to be seriously unlucky to get 1 of them riled out at this stage if the season, although it couod be worth Maguire or another giving Tarky a leg breaker on 90 mins, strengthens his chance of going the world cup, and Leicester finishing in Europe, I wouldn't put it past someone.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:12 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Not in any way concerned.
Kev is no more likely to bugger things up the other 10 Clarets on the pitch.
He's an experienced player who's come in when required and done a better than good job.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:24 pm
by piston broke
There is a reason our last four managers have kept him on. He can play.
No worries on my part.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:27 pm
by Stayingup
It's clear that we need a good CB in. Mee seems to have this recurring problem and whilst Long is a decent enough player we need another good CB

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:35 pm
by boatshed bill
Kevin long is a decent defender with international experience. I can't get my head around the idea that he is any more likely to give away a free-kick or penalty than any of our other defenders.
my only concern is that, if Mee leaves, we will need two top class central defenders in one transfer window.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:41 pm
by Top Claret
Good to see Long getting his well deserved chance. Dyche going for Long with Mee not willing to sign a new contract and rightly so. No one bigger than the club

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:44 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
I'm always concerned when one of the Four Tops is out.

Long has done well when he's come in though, so it's not quite brown underpants time.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:54 pm
by randomclaret2
Me too B.O.T....but even with Mee out, I'll be there...

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:11 pm
by bfc1984
Been a more than adequate replacement in the past.Just need one big performance from him Saturday,if we win this we are nailed on for 7th even if we was to lose last 5 imo.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:24 pm
by Grimsby Claret
Long is quality. Really hope Ben Mee signs a new contract.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:59 pm
by MACCA
Thank goodness for that. Panic over, I was getting tetchy, but not everyone can be wrong I suppose.

I'll dig out the passport.

I can't wait for July

We're all going on a European tour
A European tour
A European tour

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:16 am
by ten bellies
No worries

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:54 pm
by Vegas Claret
Bump

Outstanding today

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:56 pm
by ElectroClaret
And a cracking header, great leap to climb above the defence.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:07 pm
by RammyClaret61
Excellent today.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:21 pm
by Tribesmen
So happy for Kev i am sure this means a lot to him

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:22 pm
by Paul Waine
We've all got to admire Kevin Long. Always the 3rd choice CB. Always the guy who has to "fill in" on either right or left depending on who is out injured (or suspended).

When required he's always done a "decent"job and now he's getting a run of games he's started to deliver at the other end: an assist for Cork's goal against Watford last week; a great goal this week.

We've no need to work about Kevin Long.

Of course, we need to make sure we have other CB options especially if anyone moves on.

UTC

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:47 pm
by dsr
It makes me wonder. Can we take any defender or goalkeeper, literally anyone, and train him up under Sean Dyche to England standard? Trippier, Keane, Tarkowski, Long (OK - Ireland), Pope, Heaton. Even Mee, though he's consistently overlooked. None of them were considered potential England players when we signed them, though you could have made a case that Keane, Mee and Trippier had the potential if they got the chance.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:48 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Another excellent game today.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:49 pm
by claretspice
He did really well today, kept his focus, did the basics ever so well.

He's a bit slow on the turn (and that would be exposed in a less rigid set up), and I'm not sure he reads the game and anticipates things as well as Tarky or Mee do, but he's a match for anyone for pace in a straight line and when the game is in front of him, he's commanding. That header for his goal was as emphatic an attacking header as we've seen at Burnley in years - there wasn't too much pace on the cross and he got terrific power into it.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:52 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Agree with doing the basics well where at times Tarkowski got a bit carried away trying to flick it one which nearly led to a goal.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:59 pm
by Tall Paul
dsr wrote:It makes me wonder. Can we take any defender or goalkeeper, literally anyone, and train him up under Sean Dyche to England standard? Trippier, Keane, Tarkowski, Long (OK - Ireland), Pope, Heaton. Even Mee, though he's consistently overlooked. None of them were considered potential England players when we signed them, though you could have made a case that Keane, Mee and Trippier had the potential if they got the chance.
Flanagan and Darikwa though.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:02 pm
by dsr
Tall Paul wrote:Flanagan and Darikwa though.
We got impatient there :D Another year or two ...

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:07 pm
by Vegas Claret
his distribution was excellent too

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:20 pm
by Colburn_Claret
Outplayed Tarks today, and scored. Been excellent whenever called on this season, but today he grew again.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:22 pm
by piston broke
Roy Keane scouting him today, for Ireland. I can't see Ireland dropping Duffy or Clark but a 3 at the back might work.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:28 pm
by StuffyClaret
One thing I noticed after he scored, he was the first player back in position before the restart....no messing around basking in the glory.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:28 pm
by halfmanhalfbiscuit
He was very very good today.
I've said before that I've doubted him in the past and was wrong.
If we'd just signed him, after his preformance today, I'd be delighted.
A Premier League defender, as I've also said before I'm sure.
Pope was man of the match today. But on any other day it would have been Long.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:30 pm
by MACCA
Vegas Claret wrote:Bump

Outstanding today
What did I tell you.

Commentators curse works ;)

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:31 pm
by Longside4evr
My MOM today played like he's been there all season good player and Roy Kean would have been pleased with what he so

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:33 pm
by KRBFC
I thought he was better than Tarks today, he's had some decent games and some terrible ones, today was probably his best game in a Burnley shirt though.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:36 pm
by bfc1984
StuffyClaret wrote:One thing I noticed after he scored, he was the first player back in position before the restart....no messing around basking in the glory.
What do you expect the poor man would have to cup his ears when he ran to the crowd,poor man got so much stick for one bad game against Harry Kane one of the best?I was one of the first ones to stick up for the lad given his previous performances!

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:42 pm
by Claretmatt4
£4.0m on fantasy football if you're quick

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:46 pm
by South West Claret.
Think people are getting carried away after today.

There is a reason why KL has made so few starts over a long period and that’s because he’s not good enough.

You have to be good on the ground as well as in the air.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:21 pm
by Jakubs Tash
Vegas Claret wrote:his distribution was excellent too
...because he’s learned to keep it nice and simple. Short passes to a player who has better distribution.

If it’s a physical battle then he tends to come out on top. Got the better of one of the more physical forwards in the league, Deeney, last week.

He’s developed very well under Dyche. Well done to him.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:25 pm
by Top Claret
I thought we were all over the shop today at the back. Kevin and Tarks need to build an understanding. I love Kevin he will become a Burnley icon,our longest serving player.
Kev has been loyal to the club and the club has been loyal to Kev.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:38 pm
by Jakubs Tash
Top Claret wrote:I thought we were all over the shop today at the back. Kevin and Tarks need to build an understanding. I love Kevin he will become a Burnley icon,our longest serving player.
Kev has been loyal to the club and the club has been loyal to Kev.
I have to disagree. Defensively I thought we were terrific today. In my opinion, the issue was that the forwards weren’t retaining possession well enough. It’s all about opinions/perspective though.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:40 pm
by Stayingup
Top Claret wrote:I thought we were all over the shop today at the back. Kevin and Tarks need to build an understanding. I love Kevin he will become a Burnley icon,our longest serving player.
Kev has been loyal to the club and the club has been loyal to Kev.
What? All over the shop at the back. No but we need a midfield protector in there.

I thought the defence en bloc was good today

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:39 pm
by Top Claret
Leicester deserved a point, but for their poor finishing we would have been beaten

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:43 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
Top Claret wrote:Leicester deserved a point, but for their poor finishing we would have been beaten
You mean poor defending.

That's how football works though.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:53 pm
by triadclaret
He has come on massively under Dyche. Why any negative comments about is baffling to me. Hes a proper player. Wouldn't want to start a season with Kevin as starting CB but as a back up, he has been nothing but a rock. So impressed.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:57 pm
by Blackrod
' I thought we were all over the shop at the back today ' LOL

Kevin Long was excellent again today. Plays to his strenghths and will do me as no 3 centreback even if another comes in.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:01 pm
by ElectroClaret
triadclaret wrote:Why any negative comments about is baffling to me.
You dont come on here much, do you?
If you did, you'd know it's infested with bellends.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:14 pm
by Tall Paul
Top Claret wrote:Leicester deserved a point, but for their poor finishing we would have been beaten
So they didn't deserve a point then.

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:32 pm
by Dyched
Tall Paul wrote:So they didn't deserve a point then.
:lol:

Re: Kevin Long..

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:53 am
by Rileybobs
South West Claret. wrote:Think people are getting carried away after today.

There is a reason why KL has made so few starts over a long period and that’s because he’s not good enough.

You have to be good on the ground as well as in the air.
What a load of testes. I can’t think of an occasion where Long has let us down. A fantastic professional who seems content to be part of a squad and always capable of stepping in when required.