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Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:21 am
by cricketfieldclarets
Evertons board asking fans to rate him. Talk about undermining your manager and board.

Was tasked with a job and more than achieved that. Maybe give him a full season with his own team...

Everton fans another fickle bunch.

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:22 am
by ClaretTony
I saw this last night but not looked in any detail. I find it staggering that a club would ask fans to rate the manager like that.

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:26 am
by Colburn_Claret
Not a BFS fan, but it truly is shocking. They've tried to disguise it by putting it in amongst a load of questions re the 'running' of the club, but can't be seen as anything other than a poll on Allardyce. Foreign owners are truly awful on so many levels, this lot just sank to the lower reaches.

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:28 am
by martin_p
Looks like this is the second year they’ve included this question, so it’s not specifically a Big Sam related thing.

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:28 am
by Guich
ClaretTony wrote:I saw this last night but not looked in any detail. I find it staggering that a club would ask fans to rate the manager like that.
Me too.

But seeing as it's Big Sam 4/10 :lol:

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:28 am
by ElectroClaret
Its rather like asking a patient about to undergo heart surgery if he's any suggestions as to what the surgeon should do.

Bizarre.

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:29 am
by martin_p
From The Guardian:

‘The club sent the same questions to the panel at the end of last season in response to the Premier League reducing the range of questions in their fans’ survey. Everton intend to use the results to shape communication with supporters on what emerges as the most important issues at the club.’

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:35 am
by UpTheBeehole
Everton aren't owned by foreign owners, Moshiri is a British citizen, Kenwright is a British citizen.

As Martin Says, these questions were also posed last season.


Fuss over.

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:35 am
by cricketfieldclarets
Everton fans thought they knew better with koeman. One on the radio now saying he would give him 2 out of 10 and would prefer mike walker :lol:

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:46 am
by IndigoLake
Everton fans got what they deserved. For the most part, they wanted Allardyce over Dyche (not that I'm complaining!) and recognised Allardyce would keep them away from any trouble at the bottom. He did that but they're a fickle bunch so no doubt they're ready to discard him! The trouble is when clubs think they're too good for certain managers and styles of play and then end up in trouble (Stoke and West Brom, for example).

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:59 am
by Tall Paul
martin_p wrote:Looks like this is the second year they’ve included this question, so it’s not specifically a Big Sam related thing.
They actually ask what level of confidence the supporters have in the management team. They've also asked the same question about the board and the players.

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:07 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
We’ll see if Dyche is back on their radar in the summer.

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:13 pm
by RalphCoatesComb
I remember him at Burnden Park many years ago. He was, and still is, held in high regard by Bolton fans. Perhaps BFS could do a good job in Horwich !

I'd give him an 8 for his efforts at Goodison (2 deducted for being a miserable C*** !)

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:41 pm
by tiger76
They were in the bottom three when he took over,now they have a fair shout at finishing 8th you do wonder what some chairman/boards expect.

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:45 pm
by Tribesmen
cricketfieldclarets wrote:Everton fans thought they knew better with koeman. One on the radio now saying he would give him 2 out of 10 and would prefer mike walker :lol:
I would say Mike Basset would be better :lol:

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:48 pm
by get stuck in tracy
Ah "Fat Sam" not Big Sam.

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:51 pm
by Spike
cricketfieldclarets wrote:Evertons board asking fans to rate him. Talk about undermining your manager and board.

Was tasked with a job and more than achieved that. Maybe give him a full season with his own team...

Everton fans another fickle bunch.
the Sam you are referring to is Big Fat Sam!

Big Sam is our own Big Sam Vokes

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:58 pm
by JTClaret
Didn't he change the opinion on the West Ham fans in his second season?
Just shows how football fans/clubs want instant results and certain style of play.

Our Sean still talks about us being nowhere near the finished article.
I think we all know that the finished article is impossible to reach, but we get the point.

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:16 pm
by Tall Paul
tiger76 wrote:They were in the bottom three when he took over,now they have a fair shout at finishing 8th you do wonder what some chairman/boards expect.
No they weren't, they were 13th.

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:25 pm
by Quickenthetempo
When Everton win it's because of fat Sam, when they don't he throws players under the bus in his after match interviews.

About time he left football for good.

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:39 pm
by bfcjg
Just delighted that the knowledgable bstards fans helped drive him out. Don't like the man but he's good at what he does.

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:44 pm
by Archie Claret
Everton fans are in a class with West Ham. They never seem to be happy and can’t wait for things to not go completely to plan and then off they go again, whinging about everything and anything to do with their non-achieving clubs.
This episode with BFS reminds me of Colonel Jessop in “A few good men”....they get him in to do the saving job yet complain at the way he does it!
He’ll just wait for the bullet, pick up his cheque and on to the next one.......WBA anyone?

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:47 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Image
Flag for tonight.

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:30 pm
by beddie
If I'm honest I don't blame them.

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:36 pm
by tim_noone
Quickenthetempo wrote:Image
Flag for tonight.
Negativity breeds negativity. West ham 0 Burnley3

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:40 pm
by joey13
tim_noone wrote:Negativity breeds negativity. West ham 0 Burnley3
You do know that’s an Everton flag

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:44 pm
by tim_noone
joey13 wrote:You do know that’s an Everton flag
Yea.... It got west ham nowhere and it will get Everton or any other club whinging and whining about their managers nowhere also.

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:49 pm
by joey13
tim_noone wrote:Yea.... It got west ham nowhere and it will get Everton or any other club whinging and whining about their managers nowhere also.
They drew with Chelsea the other week

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:18 pm
by Nonayforever
Everton have appointed a director of football who will oversee player recruitment
Sam will be gone soon after the season has finished paving the way for a foreign puppet coach to steer them into the top six !
I've seen better business plans at sixth form college.

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:32 pm
by Sidney1st
Nonayforever wrote:Everton have appointed a director of football who will oversee player recruitment
Sam will be gone soon after the season has finished paving the way for a foreign puppet coach to steer them into the top six !
I've seen better business plans at sixth form college.
Am I missing the smiley?

They've already got that bloke Walsh who was at Leicester but has amusingly avoided getting any blame so far.

Re: Big Sam

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:51 pm
by Nonayforever
The new guy is from a Dutch team if I remember correctly.