His negative obsession with anything Trump does is worrying...

Ahh ye olde Trump derangement syndrome.... It's a well known phenomenon

Lol. Trump goes insane and doesn't stupid thing after stupid thing, but it's the people talking about it who are the problem. Aye, alright.

Yes looks like he might be in line for the Noble peace prize for being the only president to bring North and South Korea to the table ...just one stupid thing after another ! he will be reducing unemployment next or something loony like that..

Aye cause Trump is directly responsible for the Korea situation

I'm not going to say that Trump hasn't done something for the Korea situation, because he clearly has.

However, I'm not sure that the big fist strategy has worked as well as he claims, and I suspect a combination of Chinese pressure and the damage to the North Korean test site might have been more of a factor.

But yeah, it would be churlish to deny that Trump has had some input.

Perhaps someone with common sense has been busy advising Trump to get off his warmongering horse and let the 2 most important participants do some talking. I'm not convinced that the North Korean people have been given the same message of denuclearisation or that they are aware that their President has not actually said all the statements out loud to the media. Let's all hope that all sides see sense but don't hold your breath this is going to be a very long process with a lot at stake and probably a lot of bumpy roads to negotiate rather than a swift process to peace. Meanwhile Trump will be full of his own importance - (fake news?)

He's a massive dick, he's also a very soft target for the enlightened to sneer at. Much easier to poke fun at than that Putin/Asad/Kim (insert any other massive dick) fella, who of course has done and continues to do lots of very sensible things. Better to run with the hounds.

This O’Brien certainly winds more people up on here than Trump.

He seems to attract a strange set of listeners.

SmudgetheClaret wrote:Yes looks like he might be in line for the Noble peace prize for being the only president to bring North and South Korea to the table ...just one stupid thing after another ! he will be reducing unemployment next or something loony like that..

I thought it was the recent meeting with the Chinese leader myself....

SmudgetheClaret wrote:His negative obsession with anything Trump does is worrying...

He has severe buthurt for Trump, he's triggered by him on a daily basis, he certainly has Trump derangement syndrome.

Even if you don't like Trump you should give him credit when he does something good.
It's called being normal.

Caballo wrote:He's a massive dick, he's also a very soft target for the enlightened to sneer at. Much easier to poke fun at than that Putin/Asad/Kim (insert any other massive dick) fella, who of course has done and continues to do lots of very sensible things. Better to run with the hounds.

Your comparison is so stupid i don't know where to begin. Of course those leaders get mocked. You're just blind to it.

None of those dictators were elected fairly or even sorta-fairly like Trump. When I mock Trump i'm also mocking every idiot who voted for him thinking he was even remotely competent. Those three you mentioned are competent, and even if they weren't they didn't have a bunch of morons thinking they were to put them into power. Trump has millions of racists and nazis supporting him because they think he's the leader they've been waiting for. And he has millions more idiots just voting for him because they thought when in the White House he'll "pivot" to being presidential and competent.

People like me weren't interested in the racists and nazis. They weren't going to be reasoned with. But the idiots are those we tried to convince that actually no, Trump is never going to be at all competent and he won't be doing any pivoting. And what has he actually done that's been good? He's been in the job now for well over a year so name one achievement. Name one significant promise he's made and kept. You can't.

Imploding Turtle wrote:Lol. Trump goes insane and doesn't stupid thing after stupid thing, but it's the people talking about it who are the problem. Aye, alright.

I've so far not seen one hint of credit towards him from you regarding the progress he has helped make regarding the Korea situation. The fact you are so biased against his blatant good work makes your opinion of what you deem bad to be irrelevant as there is clearly no objectivity in your words.

The House intelligence committee, yesterday, released a lengthy report concluding it found no evidence that Donald Trump’s campaign colluded with Russia in the 2016 presidential campaign.

The democrats aren't happy.

Obrain will be gutted.

But expect to hear dusturbing hysterical noises, then a loud explosion from The Turtle Bunker

I think I'd be waiting for the Mueller investigation to finish to be honest first.

But that fact that he hasn't closed it down does suggest that he's pretty confident that it will clear him. It will get some of his closest allies though, but proving that the trail goes back to him in the duration of this presidency will be harder to do.

But lets remember that the only thing Trump supporters say (in the US at least) about this is something to do with a previous presidential candidates e-mail server. There isn't anything they can say that clears Trump, and that is the problem.

ClaretAndJew wrote:Aye cause Trump is directly responsible for the Korea situation

Aye, like he's not!

With a brutal communist dictator, who ordered the murder of his own brother. Who has gulags that his hero, the tyrant, Stalin, would be proud of. You have to crush them. Other wise, it will lead to the murder and oppression of millions, as seen in the various communist regimes throughout recent history.

Trump realised there was no point in the "carrot".

With communist dictators, it has to be the "stick"

You couldn't be more wrong.

Lancasterclaret wrote:I think I'd be waiting for the Mueller investigation to finish to be honest first.

But that fact that he hasn't closed it down does suggest that he's pretty confident that it will clear him. It will get some of his closest allies though, but proving that the trail goes back to him in the duration of this presidency will be harder to do.

But lets remember that the only thing Trump supporters say (in the US at least) about this is something to do with a previous presidential candidates e-mail server. There isn't anything they can say that clears Trump, and that is the problem.

In summary Lancs. You're saying there's nothing here to see. But cos there's nothing here to see there might be something there we missed!

And you feel I'm not good with facts!

Lancasterclaret wrote:I think I'd be waiting for the Mueller investigation to finish to be honest first.

But that fact that he hasn't closed it down does suggest that he's pretty confident that it will clear him. It will get some of his closest allies though, but proving that the trail goes back to him in the duration of this presidency will be harder to do.

But lets remember that the only thing Trump supporters say (in the US at least) about this is something to do with a previous presidential candidates e-mail server. There isn't anything they can say that clears Trump, and that is the problem.

You can't always provide evidence against a wild accusation, that's why the burden of proof is rightly always on the accuser, not the accused. It has gotten to a point now where Trumps critics are becoming increasingly desperate and hysterical as to find a means to oust him, yet instead of adapting and changing tactics, they are clinging on to this dead horse of "Russia".

ClaretAndJew wrote:Aye cause Trump is directly responsible for the Korea situation

Lancasterclaret wrote:I'm not going to say that Trump hasn't done something for the Korea situation, because he clearly has.

However, I'm not sure that the big fist strategy has worked as well as he claims, and I suspect a combination of Chinese pressure and the damage to the North Korean test site might have been more of a factor.

But yeah, it would be churlish to deny that Trump has had some input.

tim_noone wrote: I thought it was the recent meeting with the Chinese leader myself....

I think you might be interested (or maybe not!) with this CNN interview with South Korea's Foreign Minister, Kang Kyung-wha. Who I think might have slightly more knowledge of the situation than anyone posting on this board.

http://archive.is/suFww" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

South Korea's foreign minister has said she believes President Donald Trump is largely responsible for bringing North Korean leader Kim Jong-un to the negotiating table.

Speaking ahead of Friday's historic summit between the leaders of North and South Korea, Kang Kyung-wha told CNN that the US President had played a significant role in bringing the two sides together.

"Clearly, credit goes to President Trump," Kang told CNN's Christiane Amanpour in Seoul. "He's been determined to come to grips with this from day one."

O'Brien just whines about anything, distorts facts and his 'phone in' show is just him.

Just as well he doesn't work for the Samaritans.......

Makes you want to turn over to TalkSport.......

HatfieldClaret wrote:O'Brien just whines about anything, distorts facts and his 'phone in' show is just him.

Just as well he doesn't work for the Samaritans.......

Makes you want to turn over to TalkSport.......

Or talkradio, or 5dead, or Radio X or just about anything that takes you away from yet another grinding monologue from the king of self aggrandizement and socialist with starff.

Ringo, with the greatest respect, me, you, IT and everybody else on here can't say for sure that Trump is guilty or not guilty of anything.

Its very interesting to watch either way.

His biggest obsession is Johnson's

Specifically the Boris type.

His inability to question Sadiq Khan on the lack of affordable housing built, and the murder epidemic sweeping the capital while he's been mayor, is blatent.

If Boris Johnson had been the current mayor, the champagne communist Obrain would devote a week long special on his perceived incompetence.

Lancasterclaret wrote:Ringo, with the greatest respect, me, you, IT and everybody else on here can't say for sure that Trump is guilty or not guilty of anything.

Its very interesting to watch either way.

Lancs, with the greatest respect, me, you, IT and everybody else on here can't say for sure that Trump is guilty or not guilty of anything.

But, and this is the important bit that you don't seem to want to accept. The US house intelligence committee concluded there was no collusion. None. Zero. Cyber attacks. Covert operations. Discourse sowed. None.

No wonder he's got over 1 million listeners.

I have to admit to initially not being a fan, thought he was a bit up himself but his ability to absolutely nail people in power and authority when they make mistakes or lie is brilliant, and he doesn't hold back, he goes in for the kill.

In the last month he's ripped into the inconsistencies of both Lab and the Tories, highlighting the massive problems both parties have.

Course, if you want to believe that he just rips into one side or the other feel free, but its not a good look.

Lancasterclaret wrote:No wonder he's got over 1 million listeners.

I have to admit to initially not being a fan, thought he was a bit up himself but his ability to absolutely nail people in power and authority when they make mistakes or lie is brilliant, and he doesn't hold back, he goes in for the kill.

In the last month he's ripped into the inconsistencies of both Lab and the Tories, highlighting the massive problems both parties have.

Course, if you want to believe that he just rips into one side or the other feel free, but its not a good look.

But route one this, I'm afraid. But there's a reason why, when you Google the phrase "London's biggest c***" the Johnson and Daily Mail obsessed obrains name is top of the results.

LBC - Leading Britions Conversation.

When obrian is on, LBC - Let Belittling Comense

James Obrian - LBC - London's Biggest C***

Listen again on Monday lancs and I bet when you hear the phrase LBC you can't help but think of the unofficial version!

I'm messing with the lads car this morning till dinner time so I'm off now. Get yourself down the trough again and enjoy the game.

LBC - Likely Brighton'll Capitulate.

Wow, you finished that box of tissues yet, Ringo ?

ClaretMoffitt wrote:I've so far not seen one hint of credit towards him from you regarding the progress he has helped make regarding the Korea situation. The fact you are so biased against his blatant good work makes your opinion of what you deem bad to be irrelevant as there is clearly no objectivity in your words.

What has he done? Tell me what's he's done that deserves my credit.

Lancasterclaret wrote:Ringo, with the greatest respect, me, you, IT and everybody else on here can't say for sure that Trump is guilty or not guilty of anything.

Its very interesting to watch either way.

Not true. I can say with a fair degree of certainty that Trump is guilty of obstruction of justice since he literally admitted in a televised interview to firing the director of an organisation investigating potential Russia collusion for investigating potential Russia collusion.

For context Clinton got impeached for lying under oath (about a blowjob). Perjury.

Obstruction of justice and perjury are both crimes. But a republican congress only prosecuted the Democrat philanderer and not the Republican traitor.

Imploding Turtle wrote:What has he done? Tell me what's he's done that deserves my credit.

So the South Korean Foreign Minister feels it important to credit Trump with helping the situation, but according to you in all your divine wisdom, shes wrong.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/26/worl ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

O`Brien and Trump both c-ocks.

Its just one has got a microphone so a lot less dangerous than t`other who has a big red nucleur button and a panchant to tweet sh-ite all day long telling everyone America is harder than everyone else.

ClaretMoffitt wrote:So the South Korean Foreign Minister feels it important to credit Trump with helping the situation, but according to you in all your divine wisdom, shes wrong.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/26/worl ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's not answering my question. What has he done? All you and I know is that he was incredibly reckless and threatened to kick off a huge war with Korea (and therefore China). Is that what you think he deserves credit for? Do you think he did that to bring peace, or do you think he just wanted justification to start a war?

And while you consider the answer to that question. Consider this. Iran is already commited to a deal that prevents them from developing nuclear weapons for 10 years. Every agency and country involved in the deal says Iran is complying with the deal. Yet Trump wants to collapse the deal, which will allow Iran to begin developing them again immediately. So if you think Trump's effort against Korea was single-mindedly towards getting rid of their nukes and bring abour peace, how do you reconcile that with the simple fact that he's trying to allow Iran to start up their nuclear program again?

You think i'm biased against him, i'm not. I've weighed all the information i have and come to the conclusion that he's a ******* retard. That's not bias. But I'm still very much capable of seeing big pictures. If Trump wasn't actively trying to sabotage the Iran deal that prevents nuclearisation there then I could be convinced that Trump has good intentions with his 'Madman' approach to Korea/Iran/Everyone, but that's not what's happening.

This Mail headline had me laughing yesterday.

Imploding Turtle wrote:That's not answering my question. What has he done? All you and I know is that he was incredibly reckless and threatened to kick off a huge war with Korea (and therefore China). Is that what you think he deserves credit for? Do you think he did that to bring peace, or do you think he just wanted justification to start a war?

And while you consider the answer to that question. Consider this. Iran is already commited to a deal that prevents them from developing nuclear weapons for 10 years. Every agency and country involved in the deal says Iran is complying with the deal. Yet Trump wants to collapse the deal, which will allow Iran to begin developing them again immediately. So if you think Trump's effort against Korea was single-mindedly towards getting rid of their nukes and bring abour peace, how do you reconcile that with the simple fact that he's trying to allow Iran to start up their nuclear program again?

You think i'm biased against him, i'm not. I've weighed all the information i have and come to the conclusion that he's a ******* retard. That's not bias. But I'm still very much capable of seeing big pictures. If Trump wasn't actively trying to sabotage the Iran deal that prevents nuclearisation there then I could be convinced that Trump has good intentions with his 'Madman' approach to Korea/Iran/Everyone, but that's not what's happening.

The economy is performing strongly, unemployment down, stock prices up. He said it would happens and it's happened. His foreign policy has also been surprisingly effective. I had my doubts about that aspect of his governing ability but now your Macrons and what not can't get enough of him. He said very early on he would deal with he Korea problem, nobody believed he would succeed, but so far, we are seeing the first real progress in any of our lifetimes. That is measurable success for just a start, and I don't even follow American politics closely.

Also, if he (as you suggest) was simply looking for a war with NK, then why has the tone of his rhetoric completely changed in recent months since NK started to behave less hostile? Surely, if he was the warmongering moron you suggest him to be, he would be gloating and calling KJU a coward and what not, correct?

Imploding Turtle wrote:This Mail headline had me laughing yesterday.

I'm quite sure nobody is outraged at the prospect of having to pay an extra £6 to visit another country...

I can imagine it now during the referendum.

"Don't vote to end FoM, you may have better control over your countries immigration policy for the rest of your lives, but you'll have to pay £6 extra on your yearly holiday to spain!!!"

Yeah, mass outrage and hysteria from the brexit voting sheep everywhere!

I quite like Trump, what's the problem?

US Economy is performing strongly - fake news.
It really is not.

As for Korea - yes some credit must be given to Trump but lets start blowing smoke up his arse when North Korea stop torturing their own people. If North Korea have had to back off a little because of Trump`s crazy tweets then yes this is a good thing but still worrying that 2 crazy megalomaniacs are playing at who has the biggest c-ock

TVC15 wrote:US Economy is performing strongly - fake news.
It really is not.

As for Korea - yes some credit must be given to Trump but lets start blowing smoke up his arse when North Korea stop torturing their own people. If North Korea have had to back off a little because of Trump`s crazy tweets then yes this is a good thing but still worrying that 2 crazy megalomaniacs are playing at who has the biggest c-ock

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43925122" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (negative spin but growth still high and is being compared to previous quarter of higher growth under the same tenure)

https://www.ft.com/content/46d2d148-4a1 ... e73aab7ccb" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ClaretMoffitt wrote:I'm quite sure nobody is outraged at the prospect of having to pay an extra £6 to visit another country...

I can imagine it now during the referendum.

"Don't vote to end FoM, you may have better control over your countries immigration policy for the rest of your lives, but you'll have to pay £6 extra on your yearly holiday to spain!!!"

Yeah, mass outrage and hysteria from the brexit voting sheep everywhere!

Well, the "news" paper most vitriolic about leaving the EU is quite clearly outraged. This is your side of the debate getting outraged yet here you are mocking Remain for it, when we don't give a ****.

Tell me more about how it is I who is biased.

ClaretMoffitt wrote:The economy is performing strongly, unemployment down, stock prices up. He said it would happens and it's happened. His foreign policy has also been surprisingly effective. I had my doubts about that aspect of his governing ability but now your Macrons and what not can't get enough of him. He said very early on he would deal with he Korea problem, nobody believed he would succeed, but so far, we are seeing the first real progress in any of our lifetimes. That is measurable success for just a start, and I don't even follow American politics closely.

Also, if he (as you suggest) was simply looking for a war with NK, then why has the tone of his rhetoric completely changed in recent months since NK started to behave less hostile? Surely, if he was the warmongering moron you suggest him to be, he would be gloating and calling KJU a coward and what not, correct?

Yes, the economy was doing very well under Trump while Trump had done absolutely nothing to affect it. And then when he signed a tax bill and started implementing tariffs to start a trade war what happened to it? That's right, he ****** it up.

His foreign policy is effective? How? Because he's a nutcase and everyone's scare he'll go ******* crazy and nuke them? That's not effective, that's insane. It's like betting on every number except 0 in roulette and calling it effective because you won the first few times. Keep doing it, see what happens in the long term.

Imploding Turtle wrote:Well, the "news" paper most vitriolic about leaving the EU is quite clearly outraged. This is your side of the debate getting outraged yet here you are mocking Remain for it, when we don't give a ****.

Tell me more about how it is I who is biased.

the daily mail has a circulation of about 1.4m, 17.4 million people voted for brexit. The daily mail is irrelevant.

ClaretMoffitt wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43925122 (negative spin but growth still high and is being compared to previous quarter of higher growth under the same tenure)

Thanks for publishing an article that proves my point !

The economy has been nowhere near has strong as the promises Trump made. I know friends who work in the States and all those promises that Trump made about bringing back manufacturing to America and giving people their jobs back in industries that have been lost to China and the rest of the world have proven to be horse sh-it.

ClaretMoffitt wrote:the daily mail has a circulation of about 1.4m, 17.4 million people voted for brexit. The daily mail is irrelevant.

What a crock of ****. Nearly 12 million monthly users on their website in 2016 and you think it's 'irrelevent'.

You're so desperate. But if you want to throw out 1.4 million leave votes as "irrelevent" because there was 17.4 million of them then by all means go right ahead. lol. Lets see what that does to the result.

Lancasterclaret wrote:No wonder he's got over 1 million listeners.

I have to admit to initially not being a fan, thought he was a bit up himself but his ability to absolutely nail people in power and authority when they make mistakes or lie is brilliant, and he doesn't hold back, he goes in for the kill.

In the last month he's ripped into the inconsistencies of both Lab and the Tories, highlighting the massive problems both parties have.

Course, if you want to believe that he just rips into one side or the other feel free, but its not a good look.

Ha ha ha, you just repeated his lie about 1 million listeners, that's per WEEK not per day.

claretandy wrote:Ha ha ha, you just repeated lie about 1 million listeners, that's per WEEK not per day.

Where did he say it was 'per day'?

The amount of tweets I have seen from people who are genuinely gutted that trump has had some success 're Korea is staggering.
Typical of virtue signaller that would rather have nukes flying around than Donald trump getting a bit of credit

Damo wrote:The amount of tweets I have seen from people who are genuinely gutted that trump has had some success 're Korea is staggering.
Typical of virtue signaller that would rather have nukes flying around than Donald trump getting a bit of credit

Link one.

Imploding Turtle wrote:Where did he say it was 'per day'?

Are you stupid? He doesn't have 1 million listeners, he has less than 200k per day, so it's a lie.

Imploding Turtle wrote:Link one.

From the last 10 minutes or so