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Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by claretcarrot93 » Mon May 07, 2018 10:42 pm

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by dsr » Mon May 07, 2018 10:45 pm

What a surprise. Who wouldn't be?

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by Claretpants » Mon May 07, 2018 10:45 pm

Poor article stating Heaton went to 2016 Euro as 3rd choice keeper!!

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by boatshed bill » Mon May 07, 2018 10:49 pm

To be perfectly honest Southgate has known who his 3 goalkeepers will be.
So do we, and unfortunately neither Tom or Nick would be chosen if the first 3 are fit.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by Paul Waine » Mon May 07, 2018 11:11 pm

Tom's world cup chance had gone when he got injured. If he'd got back at the start of the year, and had got back in the team he'd have chance to get in the squad. But, we had Nick Pope in the middle of our goal and there's been no chance for Tom to win back the shirt.

Let's see what next season brings and the Euros 2 in 2020.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Mon May 07, 2018 11:21 pm

As crap as the article is, Heaton is still our best goalkeeper.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by Juan Tanamera » Mon May 07, 2018 11:26 pm

Strange there wasn't one quote from Tom there regarding his 'frustration'
Unless my eyes have failed me yet again.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by Leisure » Mon May 07, 2018 11:53 pm

Didn't look frustrated tonight at the Player of the Year Awards.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Tue May 08, 2018 5:04 am

I`d be disappointed and quite frankly amazed if he wasn`t, to be honest. Talk about a pathetically typical non-story from a `journalist`.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by Geoff » Tue May 08, 2018 6:03 am

Claretpants wrote:Poor article stating Heaton went to 2016 Euro as 3rd choice keeper!!
He did, didn't he?

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by IndigoLake » Tue May 08, 2018 6:43 am

Yeah, pretty poor article with not a quote in sight. It would have been more interesting if the article had stated Tom is delighted at his lack of opportunities and the chance to chill out a bit. At least give us something we don't know! :)

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by RocketLawnChair » Tue May 08, 2018 7:27 am

Claretpants wrote:Poor article stating Heaton went to 2016 Euro as 3rd choice keeper!!
He did and he was.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue May 08, 2018 8:09 am

Yep and the fact that some people probably don't remember or think of Heaton being part of that squad shows how much worth a 3rd keeper is in a tournament where you will probably only play 4 or 5 matches.

In reality being 3rd choice keeper you are just part of the keeper team to help the other two train and for them to have someone else to talk to and work with outside the coaching and management team. This is why once Pope isn't considered first or second choice keepers it makes sense that Southgate see's Hart with his character and standing around the squad as the better person to be 3rd choice and offer more to Southgate as part of his goalkeeper team

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by RocketLawnChair » Tue May 08, 2018 8:10 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:Yep and the fact that some people probably don't remember or think of Heaton being part of that squad shows how much worth a 3rd keeper is in a tournament where you will probably only play 4 or 5 matches.

In reality being 3rd choice keeper you are just part of the keeper team to help the other two train and for them to have someone else to talk to and work with outside the coaching and management team. This is why once Pope isn't considered first or second choice keepers it makes sense that Southgate see's Hart with his character and standing around the squad as the better person to be 3rd choice and offer more to Southgate as part of his goalkeeper team
Shite flows from your keyboard like a Donkeys arse.
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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by Rick_Muller » Tue May 08, 2018 8:26 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:Yep and the fact that some people probably don't remember or think of Heaton being part of that squad shows how much worth a 3rd keeper is in a tournament where you will probably only play 4 or 5 matches.

In reality being 3rd choice keeper you are just part of the keeper team to help the other two train and for them to have someone else to talk to and work with outside the coaching and management team. This is why once Pope isn't considered first or second choice keepers it makes sense that Southgate see's Hart with his character and standing around the squad as the better person to be 3rd choice and offer more to Southgate as part of his goalkeeper team
If thats the case, and I dont think it is tbh, then by all means take Hart as a cheerleader with the squad but dont let him near actually getting on the pitch as a player

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by vinrogue » Tue May 08, 2018 9:46 am

I honestly think Tom will start in goal for our first PL game of next season. Two of his qualities that are head and shoulders above Nicks are his kicking and distribution from the back so we keep possession, plus his leadership exemplified by his commanding voice keeping the back four aware of any danger etc. Nick has done brilliantly (I voted for him) but I do feel Tom gets the nod at the start of next season.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparently

Post by IanMcL » Tue May 08, 2018 10:02 am

Devils_Advocate wrote: ...once Pope isn't considered first or second choice keepers it makes sense that Southgate see's Hart with his character and standing around the squad as the better person to be 3rd choice and offer more to Southgate as part of his goalkeeper team
Hart is not even playing for a crap WHU team. I think there is a possibility that Southgate nodded to Moyse that he could choose Adrian as Hart would not play in WC. As to Hart's character and standing, I suspect the team see him as a 'shot' liability. Hardly likely to inspire.

If he is wanted in any form, he could just be part of a backroom team. He should not be part of anyone's active squad!

Title edited on amendment!

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by Stan Tastic » Tue May 08, 2018 10:13 am

I think they will alternate between league and cup games.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 08, 2018 10:14 am

boatshed bill wrote:To be perfectly honest Southgate has known who his 3 goalkeepers will be.
So do we, and unfortunately neither Tom or Nick would be chosen if the first 3 are fit.
Tom would have been in I’m certain but for this injury

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue May 08, 2018 10:57 am

Rick_Muller wrote:If thats the case, and I dont think it is tbh, then by all means take Hart as a cheerleader with the squad but dont let him near actually getting on the pitch as a player
As third choice keeper he wont be anywhere near getting on the pitch as a player. I'm sure West Ham and Hart don't want him to go as a "cheerleader" but if Southgate picks him it is obviously because he see's some value in having his part of the squad and he knows a damn lot more about international football tournaments and about Hart and Pope's character and ability than either of us do or anyone else on here

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparently

Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue May 08, 2018 10:59 am

IanMcL wrote:Hart is not even playing for a crap WHU team. I think there is a possibility that Southgate nodded to Moyse that he could choose Adrian as Hart would not play in WC. As to Hart's character and standing, I suspect the team see him as a 'shot' liability. Hardly likely to inspire.

If he is wanted in any form, he could just be part of a backroom team. He should not be part of anyone's active squad!

Title edited on amendment!
There is a massive difference in being part of a backroom team and part of the lads/squad. As for how the team view him I think Southgate has a much better grasp of that than you and me have.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by boatshed bill » Tue May 08, 2018 2:01 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Tom would have been in I’m certain but for this injury
I'd like to think so.
but I think we all accept which 3 are going now.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by Claret&blue123 » Tue May 08, 2018 9:22 pm

The question is next season who do you have as number 1 goalkeeper between Heaton and Pope?

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by CombatClaret » Tue May 08, 2018 9:40 pm

Very few clubs have two 1st XI keepers, Heaton England capped and Pope tipped for one. It's a luxury I don't think we can afford, one of the two will not be happy to sit on the bench.

I'd hate to see him go but I'd cash in on Heaton who has proven experience and a record at this level which other clubs will like.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by ontario claret » Tue May 08, 2018 9:53 pm

I'd be frustrated, too. He's Burnley through and through. But what are you going to do? Pope's the better option.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue May 08, 2018 9:55 pm

ontario claret wrote:I'd be frustrated, too. He's Burnley through and through. But what are you going to do? Pope's the better option.
In your opinion.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by ontario claret » Tue May 08, 2018 10:08 pm

Well, this IS an opinion site.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue May 08, 2018 10:12 pm

Your posts all read as facts.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparently

Post by IanMcL » Tue May 08, 2018 11:56 pm

Pope will eventually be the top keeper. If we sold Heaton, I suspect 1 more and Pope would be snatched. If we keep Heaton, I would hope he would remain until the end of his career. That's the dilemma.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Wed May 09, 2018 12:27 am

Claret&blue123 wrote:The question is next season who do you have as number 1 goalkeeper between Heaton and Pope?
I`d put money on it being Heaton with us selling Pope (unfortunately), conceivably to a team like Arsenal (Cech needs replacing soon) or easily to clubs like West Ham, Palace, Newcastle or even Wolves, for a figure around the 25 million mark. One hell of a tough choice. I just can`t see either of `em being happy to be No.2.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by ontario claret » Thu May 10, 2018 8:23 pm

You're going to argue about the choice of the player of the year, too, I suppose.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by Stan Tastic » Fri May 11, 2018 10:21 am

If he takes Hart to the World Cup it's ridiculous.

On the bench again last night and likely to finish the season there.

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Re: Heaton frustrated apparantly

Post by jrgbfc » Fri May 11, 2018 3:09 pm

Not really news is it? You'd hardly expect Heaton to be jumping for joy after losing his place and his replacement being player of the season!

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