chelsea's corner and the ref ?

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chelsea's corner and the ref ?

Post by Wile E Coyote » Wed May 09, 2018 10:01 pm

didnt see this game but radio 5 referred to it , claridge and co were saying how bad a decision it was by the ref not to allow chelsea to take the kick.
Apparently he blew for half time as william was drawing his foot back to take the corner and that he hadn't took his time running to the position to take the kick.
I recall a hugely controversial world cup disallowd goal when clive thomas ruled out a goal whilst the ball was in mid flight from a header directly from a corner, he said time was up .
Accy stanley had some similar decision when a player had shot and put the ball in the net.
Anyone know what the FIFA stance on this is ?
I know timekeeping is discretionary, but there must be some clarity with these things.
My view was that if the official is certain the alloted time has been played, then he has every right to terminate the half or end the game, just because the ball was on the corner quadrant and ready to be kicked is irrelevant. The BBC obviously thought differntly.

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Re: chelsea's corner and the ref ?

Post by dsr » Wed May 09, 2018 10:07 pm

Chelsea were dithering. They had plenty of time to take the corner and had a man there ready to take it; then they changed their mind and called for someone else. Time was up, so he blew.

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Re: chelsea's corner and the ref ?

Post by Darnhill Claret » Wed May 09, 2018 10:09 pm

Correct decision. Time should only be added on for the taking of a penalty and the ref should inform the taker that time is up after the original penalty strike. If the keeper saves, the half ends. Rebounds not to be allowed, as in a penalty shootout. Well that's how it used to be. Wouldn't be totally surprised if the Laws had been amended since then. It was Year Dot.

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Re: chelsea's corner and the ref ?

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Wed May 09, 2018 10:10 pm

The referee's decision is final ---until we introduce the stupid VAR and then anything goes!
That will be my instruction to any up and coming referee that I mentor!

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Re: chelsea's corner and the ref ?

Post by Croydon Claret » Thu May 10, 2018 7:53 am

One of the rare occasions when the rules have been enforced correctly

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Re: chelsea's corner and the ref ?

Post by Chobulous » Thu May 10, 2018 8:12 am

It happened a few times in the early 70s with the ref blowing his whistle when the ball was in mid flight and the ball ending up in the net. Even today with the "minimum time added on" the referee is the ultimate timekeeper. He can blow for full time at any point after the minimum time added on. It is totally at his discretion.

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Re: chelsea's corner and the ref ?

Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu May 10, 2018 8:58 am

Chobulous wrote:It happened a few times in the early 70s with the ref blowing his whistle when the ball was in mid flight and the ball ending up in the net. Even today with the "minimum time added on" the referee is the ultimate timekeeper. He can blow for full time at any point after the minimum time added on. It is totally at his discretion.
if that's the case , why did the e pro's in the radio studio pour scorn on the refereeing decision ?
I agree with what you say entirely, but it was the criticism from the pundits that I cannot understand.

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Re: chelsea's corner and the ref ?

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Thu May 10, 2018 9:06 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:if that's the case , why did the e pro's in the radio studio pour scorn on the refereeing decision ?
I agree with what you say entirely, but it was the criticism from the pundits that I cannot understand.
The pundits criticise because they are not fully conversant with The Laws of the Game and their interpretation.
There is no reason whatsoever for the referee to add on more time just so that a corner can be taken, the only occasion on which he may do so is if he awards a penalty which must be taken and should the keeper save it he could quite easily blow for time before any rebound is touched by another player.
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Re: chelsea's corner and the ref ?

Post by Maja » Thu May 10, 2018 9:15 am

you score well in the game, don't you?

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Re: chelsea's corner and the ref ?

Post by piston broke » Thu May 10, 2018 9:21 am

Saw this happen on Dark Lane in the 70s.
Rossy Utd 1 down to Shrewsbury in the FA Cup. In added time Bobby Grimshaw buried one from outside the box and the ref said he’d blown before it crossed the line.
Correct but ridiculous rule. The game should end with the ball dead, as in rugby. No referee can be accurate to the millisecond about timing.
As the ball was dead, last night, he was spot on.

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Re: chelsea's corner and the ref ?

Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu May 10, 2018 9:26 am

dont agree piston, the ref has to end it sometime, just because it seems something is about to happen doesnt matter.
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Re: chelsea's corner and the ref ?

Post by gsyclaret » Thu May 10, 2018 6:08 pm

Arsenals handball goal against us was from a corner, time was up and they took it short, as soon as the second arsenal player touched the ball the whistle should have been blown.

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Re: chelsea's corner and the ref ?

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Thu May 10, 2018 7:07 pm

Chelsea have been charged by the FA for the way that they reacted when Lee Mason blew for half time before they took the corner. They are charged with failing to ensure their players "conducted themselves in an orderly fashion".
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