Big Sam to be axed within 48 hours... hold onto your hats!

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Mon May 14, 2018 11:07 pm

Welcome to silly season everyone. Thank Goodness Dyche signed a lengthy deal recently, not that that’s worth much to Everton. If they want him, they’ll come knocking.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Mon May 14, 2018 11:07 pm

Batten down the hatches everyone

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Mon May 14, 2018 11:14 pm

Given the early transfer window this time around I think the managerial clear out will be over by June 1st.
Everton, Leicester WHU Arsenal Chelsea and Watford all looking for new managers with Southampton and Spurs possibles too. Levy and Pochettino not singing from the same hymn sheet

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon May 14, 2018 11:15 pm

SIlva

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon May 14, 2018 11:18 pm

I'm sure Everton fans would be very patient with SD's type of football. They were very poor before BFS went there.

paulus the woodgnome · Post by **paulus the woodgnome** » Mon May 14, 2018 11:19 pm

Arsene? Ha ha ha ha

dushanbe · Post by **dushanbe** » Mon May 14, 2018 11:24 pm

Not even registering on the concernometer that job

nonayclaret · Post by **nonayclaret** » Mon May 14, 2018 11:28 pm

Crickey, I thought the thread was about Vokes!!

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Tue May 15, 2018 8:15 am

Just another day and another couple of million in the bank for Big Sam.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Tue May 15, 2018 8:24 am

Big Fat Sam

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue May 15, 2018 8:38 am

It's possible that half of the managers in charge of Premier League teams last Sunday are under threat or gone (in the case of the first one).

Arsène Wenger - Arsenal
Antonio Conte - Chelsea
Sam Allardyce - Everton
Claude Puel - Leicester
Mark Hughes - Southampton
Paul Lambert - Stoke
Carlos Carvalhal - Swansea
Javi Gracia - Watford
Darren Moore - West Brom
David Moyes - West Ham

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Tue May 15, 2018 8:47 am

Pochettino to Chelsea prompting Dyche to Spurs.

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Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Tue May 15, 2018 8:58 am

I'd like to think Southampton would stick with Hughes. His remit was to avoid the drop and he succeeded. Bringing in another foreign flair manager is totally the wrong thing to do given how they only narrowly stayed up.

I'd also hope that West Brom give Moore a chance. He's shown more than enough to earn a permanent deal.

I think Chelsea should stick with Conte. They need a bit of stability if they want sustained success.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue May 15, 2018 9:05 am

Falcon wrote:I'd like to think Southampton would stick with Hughes. His remit was to avoid the drop and he succeeded. Bringing in another foreign flair manager is totally the wrong thing to do given how they only narrowly stayed up.

I'd also hope that West Brom give Moore a chance. He's shown more than enough to earn a permanent deal.

I think Chelsea should stick with Conte. They need a bit of stability if they want sustained success.

Hughes would be unfortunate to lose his job but he does have a reputation of being a very poor man manager which might work against him. Conte will surely be gone, he's been writing his own exit papers for weeks now.

Moore is a strange one. I'd give him the job because he's done well. But I was watching TV last week, can't remember who the two were who were discussing it but they said he hadn't done any managing in this short space of time. He hadn't had to deal with re-signing players, getting rid of players, signing players, none of the stuff managers do. They said the only thing he'd done was give the players a lift after Pardew had gone. To be honest, I thought Pardew going was all the lift they needed.

I was expecting Moyes to stay at West Ham but there are enough reports in last 24 hours to suggest he'll be on his way.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue May 15, 2018 9:10 am

Diesel wrote:Pochettino to Chelsea prompting Dyche to Spurs.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/ ... pochettino" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Now that one would be interesting.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Tue May 15, 2018 9:10 am

Yep, looking like Silva for Everton, all over the papers.

Isn't he still in dispute with Watford for what he claims are "unpaid wages"?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue May 15, 2018 9:13 am

There is no way that the Everton fans would want Dyche.

You try telling them how good a manager he is and the reply is along the lines of "he's not big enough for a club our size"

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue May 15, 2018 9:18 am

They weren't interested in Dyche last time and again they want Silva but he's in dispute with Watford who apparently haven't paid him a penny yet. They blamed Everton's interest in them having to sack him.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Tue May 15, 2018 9:25 am

Silva claiming £750,000, according to the press.

Meanwhile, keeper coach Gerry Peyton is one of the casualties of Wenger leaving Arsenal
and is expected to depart along with several other backroom staff. (Mirror)

Played for us in the mid Seventies, didn't he?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue May 15, 2018 9:29 am

ClaretTony wrote:It's possible that half of the managers in charge of Premier League teams last Sunday are under threat or gone (in the case of the first one).

Arsène Wenger - Arsenal
Antonio Conte - Chelsea
Sam Allardyce - Everton
Claude Puel - Leicester
Mark Hughes - Southampton
Paul Lambert - Stoke
Carlos Carvalhal - Swansea
Javi Gracia - Watford
Darren Moore - West Brom
David Moyes - West Ham

Carvalhal previously confirmed to be leaving as well.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue May 15, 2018 9:34 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:Carvalhal previously confirmed to be leaving as well.

Looked that way last week, but there seems to be some doubt now. He said yesterday he's hoping to stay. I don't think he got a lot of support from the Swansea fans though.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Tue May 15, 2018 9:37 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:Carvalhal previously confirmed to be leaving as well.

The last I read Swans were asking him if he would be happy to manage them in the Championship.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue May 15, 2018 9:40 am

His record in the championship is pretty good though. I'm not sure they will get anyone better and he does play the style of football that they want to see.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Tue May 15, 2018 9:46 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:There is no way that the Everton fans would want Dyche.

You try telling them how good a manager he is and the reply is along the lines of "he's not big enough for a club our size"

Bloody hell, they going for Steve Evans then??

clive40golf · Post by **clive40golf** » Tue May 15, 2018 9:55 am

ElectroClaret wrote:Silva claiming £750,000, according to the press.

Meanwhile, keeper coach Gerry Peyton is one of the casualties of Wenger leaving Arsenal
and is expected to depart along with several other backroom staff. (Mirror)

Played for us in the mid Seventies, didn't he?

Yes he did, he made one of the greatest saves of the seventies (Burnley vs Liverpool-David Fairclough). He took over from Alan Stevenson.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue May 15, 2018 11:32 am

ElectroClaret wrote:Meanwhile, keeper coach Gerry Peyton is one of the casualties of Wenger leaving Arsenal
and is expected to depart along with several other backroom staff. (Mirror)

Played for us in the mid Seventies, didn't he?

He's been at Arsenal for a good number of years. Was certainly there when we played them in the FA Cup in Jan 2008. He'd previously been goalkeeper coach at Fulham.

uwe · Post by **uwe** » Tue May 15, 2018 11:46 am

Gerry Peyton was a fantastic keeper, spectacular shot-stopper.
I really rated him.

COBBLE · Post by **COBBLE** » Tue May 15, 2018 12:11 pm

Very happy with this. A second year for BFS with signings to fit his structure and they would be a bigger threat to us than Silva.
Other than Spurs or West Ham I can't see Sean Dyche being interested in the rest. I can't see the fans of either accepting Dyche.
The pasting at Arsenal and Eddie's win on Sunday may help too. Eddie would be more attractive to West Ham.

The poor man is trapped in Padiham for seventy grand a week.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Tue May 15, 2018 12:18 pm

The thing with money is you are prepared to put up with anything when you are short of it, mortgage, kids etc.
But when the bills are paid, and the kids grown, job satisfaction becomes far more important. I'd take a pay cut to go somewhere that I thought would be happier or better for me.
SD doesn't need the money, and I can't see it being a happier place to work than right here. SD IS however the sort to welcome a challenge, he wants to push himself, so EL qualification might have come at just the right time.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Tue May 15, 2018 12:22 pm

I expect a lot will just jump on the merry go round and exchange clubs, for example, wouldn’t be surprised to see Moyes back at Everton.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Tue May 15, 2018 12:25 pm

I would be a bit worried about Spurs - Dyche cpuld do a good job there. They need a strong character who will galvanise they "low acjeiving" team. They need a winner and i think Dyche's development of our side would fit following Poch.

And he has won stuff (not a major trophy granted but the Championship title is not to be sniffed at).

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Tue May 15, 2018 12:59 pm

Everton fans would be calling for Dyches head before Xmas if he went there and he knows it.
Dyche as got the best job in the world. Good boss with free rein and supporters who love him

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Tue May 15, 2018 1:00 pm

uwe wrote:Gerry Peyton was a fantastic keeper, spectacular shot-stopper.
I really rated him.

Remember his rugby boots well

Cubanclaret · Post by **Cubanclaret** » Tue May 15, 2018 1:01 pm

I'd imagine Chris Hughton would be a popular choice of manager at Spurs if Pochettino did go.
Well-loved ex-player, possibly only a season behind our Sean Dyche in terms of his achievements - two promotions from the Championship and stayed up with a game or two to spare.
If Poch had any genuine feeling of love towards Spurs, surely he couldn't go to Chelsea.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Tue May 15, 2018 1:03 pm

Allardyce did a good job. 8th. Trailing behind us but still 8th.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue May 15, 2018 1:08 pm

As said before Silva seems to be the favourite so we can relax about SD.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Tue May 15, 2018 3:35 pm

I'm not sure if Dyche would be too keen on the structure at Spurs where he doesn't have all the power.

Everton would really be ideal for him, a long-term rebuilding job with a club that's now got the finances to push on. I can't see them, and the fans, actually being patient enough for it though.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Tue May 15, 2018 8:07 pm

I genuinly think Dyche is really commited here. His baby is Gawthorpe and would you want someone else bringing up your kid ?

thelaughingclaret · Post by **thelaughingclaret** » Tue May 15, 2018 8:22 pm

I don’t see how Dyche could succeed at a top 6 club if I’m honest. At Spurs how would he deal with types like Ali? Or any other premadona when things don’t go their way and the toys go flying? At other clubs how would he deal with foreign owners who want to decide who he should sign? How would he deal with the higher expectations? Dyches stubboness when it comes to changing things and substitutions might not work at a bigger club as well. Same with his ethos of only buying players if they fit his mould. Dyche fits us, and I struggle to see him fitting in at a bigger club who will want instant success. At this moment I just don’t see a move to a top 6 club working out for him, in a year if we do ok in Europe, he shows improvement on his stuboness when it comes to changing things and who he signs, then maybe.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Tue May 15, 2018 8:28 pm

What on earth did they expect with BFS? He’s done a fine job and they were genuinely slipping into deep sh1t before . Perhaps if he used some hair gel and changed his name to “Sam-uel - aller-dycio” he’d be a “ highly sort after successful premier league coach with great stats who works on smallish budgets”

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Tue May 15, 2018 8:51 pm

Big and fat he may be but Everton fans should be kneeling at his feet. They were going down until he sorted out that awful defence.
Like him or not he has an excellent record and every club that has canned him has gone on a downward cycle.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Tue May 15, 2018 9:43 pm

Could be set for a fall, but I've long since stopped worrying about him leaving, even though it may be a disaster. Where would he go? Following the way fans responded to him being linked with Everton, I've no fears of him heading that far west. Maybe elsewhere but these foreign owners and his ways are not a good mix.

He will be here until he wants to leave. Could be a long time.

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Tue May 15, 2018 10:08 pm

Sean Dyche to Spurs, seriously. Their football philosophy is about as opposite to SDs as you can possibly get. Not a cat in hells in chance.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Tue May 15, 2018 10:11 pm

Sounds like Marco Silva the only one Everton are after

Brooky · Post by **Brooky** » Tue May 15, 2018 10:20 pm

Did anyone really expect Big Sam to be managing Everton next season? Brought in to steady the ship till the end of the season and will leave with 18 months pay. Done the job for them. As for where SD could go, who has a squad that would accept his style of management? Far too many prima donnas in most premier league teams who'd chuck their dummies out of their prams rather than learn from the ginger wizard.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue May 15, 2018 10:47 pm

Watford have filed a formal complaint against Everton for tapping up Marco Silva.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Tue May 15, 2018 10:52 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Watford have filed a formal complaint against Everton for tapping up Marco Silva.

Have Udinese done the same?

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Wed May 16, 2018 9:09 am

Unlike many it seems I quite like Allardyce. He's had a pretty good managerial career and it is a pity he didn't manage England for longer - I would have liked to see how he would have done in those circumstances.

He had a job to do at Everton and he did it extremely well. He is capable of getting sides to play good football and if Everton stick with him and give him the resources I'm sure he can do that.

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Wed May 16, 2018 9:12 am

The thing about Allerdyce is that he is always asked to do the same job and so has become typecast, so to speak, unfairly in my view. Towards the end of his tenure at Bolton, it looked like the style of football was changing. I don't believe he is a one trick pony like Pulis, it's just that he's so good at the one trick we all know.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed May 16, 2018 9:40 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Have Udinese done the same?

I'd assume so

Seems Everton & Watford are now negotiating - probably based on Watford's refusal to pay the compensation they owe to Silva.