Aston Villa v Middlesbrough
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 7:46 pm
Just about to get underway.
Fancy Boro here, no idea why.
Fancy Boro here, no idea why.
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Pass the tissues Pat!Raya4espania2018 wrote:I love the way so many of your fans try to look down on teams these days like you've been a top flight club for decades. Considering the journey youve been on since the 70s, makes it all the more stupid.
And what mighty achievements have your club made during that time?Raya4espania2018 wrote:Average is what you've been most of the time since the 70s.. Come to think of it, average is being very kind.
Yet you are still obsessed with us......Raya4espania2018 wrote:Average is what you've been most of the time since the 70s.. Come to think of it, average is being very kind.
Even if it wasn’t the goalkeeper didn’t know and has basically made a save outside the area and got a yellow card!Vegas Claret wrote:shambolic from Dean, basic decision, balls going in
Bin Ont Turf wrote:Yeh but Dyche hates Boro because of them cheating Chesterfield 20 odd years ago.
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Nice to know somebody knows the football laws..Well done Mike Dean..Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:Correct decision by Mike Dean and correct card given, It was just a handball outside the box and there were covering defenders, therefore did not deny a goalscoring opportunity.
I don’t think there was any way Terry was getting to the ball. He wasn’t directly behind the keeper and the ball was both travelling at speed and on the upward part of its arc. It would have gone well out of his reach. Had the game been using VAR the keeper would have walked without a doubt.Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:Correct decision by Mike Dean and correct card given, It was just a handball outside the box and there were covering defenders, therefore did not deny a goalscoring opportunity.
Well, apart from the fact that they haven’t ended the season being promoted to the Premier League.KRBFC wrote:How sh** and boring were Boro, didn't even attack just sat in and prayed for a scrappy goal, it was like watching a Dyche team 70% of the team.
Referee was in the best position to judge the situation as he was directly behind it, he made his decision on what he saw, not on what any tv replays and pundits make of it. It may be old fashioned, however, the referee's decision is final and, from what he saw, the deicision was correct.martin_p wrote:I don’t think there was any way Terry was getting to the ball. He wasn’t directly behind the keeper and the ball was both travelling at speed and on the upward part of its arc. It would have gone well out of his reach. Had the game been using VAR the keeper would have walked without a doubt.
Slightly unfair to judge them on their achievements since the 70s; they’ve only existed since 1986.ClaretAndJew wrote:And what mighty achievements have your club made during that time?
The keeper made a save, the very definition of denying a goal scoring opportunity! I’ll admit Dean made the right decision based on his interpretation of the situation, but that interpretation was very wrong. Do you think the keeper would have been sent off if VAR was available?Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:Referee was in the best position to judge the situation as he was directly behind it, he made his decision on what he saw, not on what any tv replays and pundits make of it. It may be old fashioned, however, the referee's decision is final and, from what he saw, the deicision was correct.
He may also have thought that the ball was on its upward arc and would have been nowhere near the goal. He made the decision from what he saw which is what referees do, in spite of all the various opinions of pundits, fans etc.
From what he saw he gave a free kick and cautioned the keeper for handball outside the box. According to The Laws of the Game he was 100% correct.
No,not if they applied it to the letter of the law .martin_p wrote:The keeper made a save, the very definition of denying a goal scoring opportunity! I’ll admit Dean made the right decision based on his interpretation of the situation, but that interpretation was very wrong. Do you think the keeper would have been sent off if VAR was available?
Why should he have been sent off if VAR was available? Oh yes, we would have had 28 replays from every angle possible leaving all the fans who were actually paying to attend the match in doubt as to what the hell was going on.martin_p wrote:The keeper made a save, the very definition of denying a goal scoring opportunity! I’ll admit Dean made the right decision based on his interpretation of the situation, but that interpretation was very wrong. Do you think the keeper would have been sent off if VAR was available?
Slightly unfair to judge them on their achievements since the 70s; they’ve only existed since 1986.ClaretAndJew wrote:And what mighty achievements have your club made during that time?
The letter of the law being that a keeper handling the ball outside the box to deny a goal is sent off.conyoviejo wrote:No,not if they applied it to the letter of the law .
If he’s made the wrong decision then it’s not easy to accept at all. That’s exactly what VAR is all about, correcting wrong decisions that have a major impact on the match. Do you think referees never make mistakes or should be beyond criticism?Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:Why should he have been sent off if VAR was available? Oh yes, we would have had 28 replays from every angle possible leaving all the fans who were actually paying to attend the match in doubt as to what the hell was going on.
How easy just to accept that the referee was in a position to give a decision and accept that and get on with the game.
Football is played on the pitch ---not on a television screem --unless you play these stupid computer games.
In the referee's opinion --he did not deny a goal --that is the salient fact!martin_p wrote:The letter of the law being that a keeper handling the ball outside the box to deny a goal is sent off.
Yes I know, but he was wrong!Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:In the referee's opinion --he did not deny a goal --that is the salient fact!
How many years have you been refereeing martin? Just interested.martin_p wrote:Yes I know, but he was wrong!
The same number of years I’ve been a professional footballer, film maker, artist, author and rock star. It doesn’t stop me having an opinion on any of them.Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:How many years have you been refereeing martin? Just interested.
I didn't say that they don't make mistakes, however, he did not make a mistake in this particular case.martin_p wrote:If he’s made the wrong decision then it’s not easy to accept at all. That’s exactly what VAR is all about, correcting wrong decisions that have a major impact on the match. Do you think referees never make mistakes or should be beyond criticism?
Very true --your opinion says that the referee was wrong, however, in his opinion, he was correct. Is he not allowed to have an opinion --just because he is a neutral referee?martin_p wrote:The same number of years I’ve been a professional footballer, film maker, artist, author and rock star. It doesn’t stop me having an opinion on any of them.