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Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 10:23 am
by Billy Balfour
It's certainly been cider weather.
Can anyone recommend a good *DRY* cider, apart from Aspall or Henney's, that are 6% or under?
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 11:24 am
by Longsider
Morrisons do their own box of cider (Westons in a Morrison box.) 2.5LITRES for around £5. It is strong though at 7.5%. I treat it like wine and serve in a wine glass but invariably finish the whole box. Really good dry cider.
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 11:24 am
by ClaretAndJew
I love Pear Cider that's made from 100% pear.
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 11:40 am
by Sausage
ClaretAndJew wrote:I love Pear Cider that's made from 100% pear.
That would be perry, then.
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 12:08 pm
by ClaretFelix
I tried Aspall’s Temple Moon whilst at Bowland Brewery, I’d never had it before. It was lovely and fresh on a nice sunny day!! It’s flat like a scrumpy but with no tangy aftertaste or smell you’d normally get. Really fruity and crisp
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 12:44 pm
by Billy Balfour
Cheers for the recommendations. I'll check them out.
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 12:49 pm
by Herts Clarets
Not a fan of cider at all really, but a few years back we went on a tour of Healeys cider farm in Cornwall. Their Rattler cider was very nice and as I say, that's from someone who isn't a Wurzle (Cider Drinker)
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 1:06 pm
by hampsteadclaret
i have been drinking a lot of cider in the last 18 months, it's excellent in hot weather.
I'm not an expert, but I know what I like.
You've mentioned Aspall's [5.5%] which I am a fan of..then
Stowford Press
Thatchers
Weston
and in bottles
Magners [with ice]
Bulmers
Cidra [made by Stella]
I try and avoid Strongbow [the Carling of ciders].
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 3:44 pm
by Pstotto
As I live in Kent, cider is pretty big down here, although teenage Bulmers in the woods put paid to any adult interest in the stuff. I was talking with a friend about the drink and the subject got on to 8% cider and I said that I wouldn't touch the stuff as the other 92% was sand. it was a bit of a subtle joke and not really appreciated.
However there was a food fair in the local park and there was a cider stand and on it was a pint glass used for a sign to go in, rather like a plant pot for a plant. Guess what? The glass was full of sand in order to stick the sign in. I started laughing and pointed it out to my friend and said 'what did I tell you?'
I still can't believe the serendipity of the story. It was some sort of joke miracle.
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 3:46 pm
by starting_11
I bought some Old Rosie from Morrisons a few months ago. It was a five litre job and I bought it because it came in a moonshine jug you can swig over your shoulder.
Tastes alright and it cost about 5 quid, not bad for some 7% loopy juice
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 4:23 pm
by Goobs
hampsteadclaret wrote:i have been drinking a lot of cider in the last 18 months, it's excellent in hot weather.
I'm not an expert, but I know what I like.
You've mentioned Aspall's [5.5%] which I am a fan of..then
Stowford Press
Thatchers
Weston
and in bottles
Magners [with ice]
Bulmers
Cidra [made by Stella]
I try and avoid Strongbow [the Carling of ciders].
Surely the Carling of ciders is Carling cider?
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 4:23 pm
by HatfieldClaret
Did a 5 litre keg of Thatchers Gold yesterday with a pal. Medium Dry.
Bought from Tescos, on offer with a couple of quid off.
Felt ok this morning....

Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 5:13 pm
by longsidepies
I'm drinking Lidl's own "woodgate" reserve vintage cider atm. Very tasty and it's great value at £1.25 for 500ml. Won't be having many though, it's 7.3%
They do do one at a lower strength. But I know nowt about such stuff
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 5:58 pm
by cutsy123
hampsteadclaret wrote:i have been drinking a lot of cider in the last 18 months, it's excellent in hot weather.
I'm not an expert, but I know what I like.
You've mentioned Aspall's [5.5%] which I am a fan of..then
Stowford Press
Thatchers
Weston
and in bottles
Magners [with ice]
Bulmers
Cidra [made by Stella]
I try and avoid Strongbow [the Carling of ciders].
Dark fruits is amazing
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:22 pm
by starting_11
Not much of a cider drinker. Didn't mind the taste of Cidre but it felt like someone was punching me in the stomach every time it hit my gut, never had that happen with any drink before or since.
Angry Orchard is a nice one if you're knocking round Tesco or Spoons. Tastes like Appletizer
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:29 pm
by ElectroClaret
cutsy123 wrote:Dark fruits is amazing
Yes, that's very good.
Don't mind Strongbow myself, I find it very refreshing.
Each to their own, though.
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:36 pm
by Stan Tastic
ClaretAndJew wrote:I love Pear Cider that's made from 100% pear.
What's that? Is it one giant pear?
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:41 pm
by BFCmaj
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Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:51 pm
by cutsy123
ElectroClaret wrote:Yes, that's very good.
Don't mind Strongbow myself, I find it very refreshing.
Each to their own, though.
Ice cold strongy
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:57 pm
by Damo
Nobody mentioned "Cockins" yet?
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 7:01 pm
by Billy Balfour
starting_11 wrote:Angry Orchard is a nice one if you're knocking round Tesco or Spoons. Tastes like Appletizer
I bought a couple of bottles of Angry Orchard the other week from Tesco. It described itself as a 'hard cider' so I was hoping for a dry drink like Henney's Dry. Unfortunately it was more like a medium dry.
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 7:28 pm
by tim_noone
I'm surprised no mention of white lightening Seems popular in some quarters any views?
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 7:34 pm
by Billy Balfour
Hey, don't knock it. It was recently voted cider of the decade by Tramp Life magazine.
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 7:57 pm
by starting_11
Billy Balfour wrote:I bought a couple of bottles of Angry Orchard the other week from Tesco. It described itself as a 'hard cider' so I was hoping for a dry drink like Henney's Dry. Unfortunately it was more like a medium dry.
It's American. "Hard" It means it's alcoholic.
"Cider" is just fresh apple juice over there.
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 7:58 pm
by starting_11
Anyone tried Pineapple cider?
Now THAT'S a tasty beverage!
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 8:05 pm
by Damo
starting_11 wrote:Anyone tried Pineapple cider?
Now THAT'S a tasty beverage!
Just reading that gave me heartburn
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 8:12 pm
by karatekid
Dickens Cider always gives a nice buzz.

Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 8:14 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
Czechs are finally getting into their cider and there is a nice domestic one now
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 8:19 pm
by FactualFrank
Strongbow...... pint
Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 10:40 pm
by starting_11
Damo wrote:Just reading that gave me heartburn
Naaaahh son!
Think of it like a drinking an alcoholic pineapple cube

Re: Cider?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 11:23 pm
by steve_f
Another vote for Henry Westons
The 2016 oak aged vintage one is very easy to drink, but be a tad carefull as it is 8.2%
Can be found on offer occasionally in Sainsburys, a box of six 500ml bottles for £8.00 is great value
Re: Cider?
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 7:05 am
by jedi_master
Kopperberg pear, Rekorderlig wild berry and Brothers toffee apple on a hot day with a load of ice are just bang on.
Re: Cider?
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 9:30 am
by hampsteadclaret
11..I was unaware that Carling sold their own brand of cider, I have never seen it.
It looks like Morrison's and Tesco's are the main bulk retailers of this product, I rarely go in these as I do not have a [large] store near me.
Another shout for Kopparberg from Sweden and Old Mout Cider is very good, tho' a bit pricier.
Re: Cider?
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:56 pm
by ElectroClaret
Thatchers "Haze"
Cloudy Somerset cider.
A new one to me, on my third can.
Delightful.
Four quid for four at Sainsburys. Bargain.
Re: Cider?
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:03 pm
by Vino blanco
More of a Frosty Jack's man myself. Love it on my my morning Corn Flakes.
Re: Cider?
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:57 pm
by expoultryboy
Karatekid : my wife sometimes like a dicken cider before breakfast !!
Re: Cider?
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:59 pm
by Rowls
Used to make my own cider which was very palatable even if I say so myself.
If I had to plump for a branded cider it would be Bulmers and Westons but you still cannot beat properly, REAL cider.
Re: Cider?
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:00 pm
by California Colner
Dry Blackthorn
Re: Cider?
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:10 pm
by Imploding Turtle
ClaretAndJew wrote:I love Pear Cider that's made from 100% pear.
Give it to me straight
Re: Cider?
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:11 pm
by Woodleyclaret
Cornish Rattler the second best thing to come out of Cornwall after pasties
Re: Cider?
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:19 pm
by gsyclaret
Somersby is a really nice cider, very partial to scrumpy jack at 6%, can't drink dry blackthorn or strongbow, too dry, Thatchers is a good cider or any cloudy cider, they tend to be not too dry.
Re: Cider?
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:24 pm
by TheFamilyCat
I knew a woman who used to do a lot of cooking with cider. Carrots, parsnips, chops, ribs - she'd have pretty much anything in cider.
Re: Cider?
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:52 pm
by Joey is no kant
Taffy apples best cider from Swansea ,delicious.
Re: Cider?
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:28 am
by ClaretEngineer
longsidepies wrote:I'm drinking Lidl's own "woodgate" reserve vintage cider atm. Very tasty and it's great value at £1.25 for 500ml. Won't be having many though, it's 7.3%
They do do one at a lower strength. But I know nowt about such stuff
The standard one is very good, I seem to remember paying about 80p a bottle. Very surprised with the quality.
Another vote for Healy’s Rattler, superb stuff!
Re: Cider?
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:06 am
by MrClaretandBlue
Mr Mrs enjoys a Dickins Cider,
Re: Cider?
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:25 am
by BurnleySYS
Frosty Jacks. Nothing comes close.
Re: Cider?
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:13 am
by Claret Kitch
Savanna Dry Cider is the best about for me. I try to buy British if possible, but this South African beauty goes down very well. Roll on Friday night!
Re: Cider?
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:46 am
by Burt
Claret Kitch wrote:Savanna Dry Cider is the best about for me. I try to buy British if possible, but this South African beauty goes down very well. Roll on Friday night!
Couldn't agree more, tried it in London many years ago and have bought it ever since. Absolute nectar
Re: Cider?
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:50 am
by starting_11
Rowls wrote:Used to make my own cider which was very palatable even if I say so myself.
If I had to plump for a branded cider it would be Bulmers and Westons but you still cannot beat properly, REAL cider.
How did you mush the apples?
Re: Cider?
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:06 am
by Rowls
I made a cider masher. It worked brilliantly for the first 5 sacks of apples. Then the wooden spindle snapped in half.
It was a barrel of wood which I chiselled down into a good cylindrical shape, fitted with 'teeth' by drilling screws into and leaving them standing proud, mounted on a spindle (which snapped) and fitted to a frame. The apples were poured from the top, the barrel was turned, the screws mashed the apples and we collected the pulp in a bucket at the bottom.
It was like this one (but mine wasn't as good):
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As you can see from that video this is his second attempt. Making cider is labour intensive and takes a lot of time. The guy who made the video evidently had a decent budget to spend on his apple masher whereas we did not.
If you want to make cider and don't have a big budget I strongly recommend mashing apples using the 'fence-post and bucket' method:
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That's very simple but it is effective.
After my apple masher broke I used a food processor. Laborious because of the small capacity but it worked very well. I didn't have much choice given I had 5 sacks full of apples and no other method of crushing them.
I made my press out of a car jack and a frame which I made out of a fence post. Obviously you can obtain a LOT of pressure from a car jack so you have to make sure your frame is very sturdy. I used 5 brackets for each join and had I been skilful enough I'd have joined them with a peg & socket join too.
It's hard work but I just adored the thrill of tasting my own cider. It's very rewarding.
Best tip I can give you is to make sure you have a LOT of apples (I'd get through 10 giant bin sacks which were full) and to make sure you have a good mix of types of apples. Ideally you want proper cider apples. They're near impossible to get hold of unless you know an orchard owner. If you can't get hold of them (people don't tend to grow them non-commercially because they're inedible in themselves) you need to mix between sour cooking apples and sweet eating apples. It's also a great tip to throw in some of the bitter wild crab apples - that was the clincher between a drinkable cider and an enjoyable cider for me. These wild crab apples are much harder to pulp and press because they're tougher, smaller and have thick skins but they give a great full flavour to cider.
Whatever you do, do NOT buy one of those bucket mechanisms that attach to a drill to pulp your apples - utterly useless.