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England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:39 am
by FactualFrank
Thought I'd a create a thread also for those who like to come onto an England game thread to say they won't be watching the England game and have no interest in friendlies.

Expected team according to the papers:
Butland, Walker, Cahill, Stones, Alexander-Arnold, Dier, Lingard, Loftus-Cheek, Young, Sterling, Kane

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:47 am
by PaintYorkClaretnBlue
I hope that pope will get a bloody game today!!

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:57 am
by Devils_Advocate
Not far off the starting line up at the world cup that. I reckon Trippier or Arnold and Ali or Lingard are the two shirts up for grabs with the problem position to sort of who plays alongside Dier in the middle to give us that creative spark

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:08 am
by ClaretTony
FactualFrank wrote:Thought I'd a create a thread also for those who like to come onto an England game thread to say they won't be watching the England game and have no interest in friendlies.
I'll come on and say I won't be watching. To be honest, I find watching England boring and only show a real interest if there is a likelihood of a Burnley player being involved. Given Butland is likely to play with Pickford considered first choice, I'm not expecting Pope to play in either of the warm up games.

Will I be watching? No - but that's only because I'll be out. :D

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:12 am
by taio
I'll definitely be watching. Got football withdrawal symptons already. And gets me into World Cup mood ahead of it starting, which I'm really looking forward to.

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:17 am
by wilks_bfc
I’ll be watching

But only to see Nigerias snazzy new kit

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:18 am
by piston broke
Pope won’t go to Russia without a cap, so he’ll be coming on tonight or next week.
Henderson will start at the World Cup for Dier and deservedly so.
Shame we haven’t got a better left sider than Young. For a former winger he doesn’t deliver much but I hope to be proved wrong.

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:22 am
by bobinho
wilks_bfc wrote:I’ll be watching

But only to see Nigerias snazzy new kit
And before someone asks...NO. It wouldn’t look good in claret and blue...

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:28 am
by FactualFrank
piston broke wrote:Pope won’t go to Russia without a cap, so he’ll be coming on tonight or next week.
Henderson will start at the World Cup for Dier and deservedly so.
Shame we haven’t got a better left sider than Young. For a former winger he doesn’t deliver much but I hope to be proved wrong.
I think Young can deliver very well, but only on his right foot. Which means he has to cut back onto his right before curling one in. I've seen him do some absolutely superb crosses, however perhaps a tad predictable.

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:06 pm
by piston broke
Followed by Rep. Of Ireland v USA 8pm. Walters, Hendrick, Long?
followed by Iceland v Norway 9pm. JBG?

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:09 pm
by cutsy123
england should win comfortably

they wont

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:34 pm
by Wile E Coyote
i have no faith in a manager who fails to see pope as first choice, might appear biased, but its not. Pope is unquestionably the best, and his form shows this to be the case. Southgate is an idiot if he and his staff fail to recognise that.
I will be watching it .

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:40 pm
by taio
Wile E Coyote wrote:i have no faith in a manager who fails to see pope as first choice, might appear biased, but its not. Pope is unquestionably the best, and his form shows this to be the case. Southgate is an idiot if he and his staff fail to recognise that.
I will be watching it .
Definitely appears biased. It's not a straightforward call for Southgate. Pope has been brilliant for us but his weakness with his feet has to be taken into account by Southgate. To be fair he has tried to assemble his squad based on form and it's right that Pope is in it.

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:42 pm
by MACCA
Might catch the 2nd half, depending what time Kick Off is.

England games have got slightly better recently, hopefully they won't go back to the slow, mundane football with 2 defensive midfielders against a team we should really be brushing aside with relative ease.

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:47 pm
by KRBFC
ENGLAND -1 (AH) v Nigeria
Kenya v NEW ZEALAND (Draw No Bet)
Latvia v ESTONIA (Draw No Bet)

£20 for £122

Edit: Just realised New Zealand have a non of their first 11 players available, where the hell is Wood when you need him? RIP £20

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:50 pm
by Wile E Coyote
taio wrote:Definitely appears biased. It's not a straightforward call for Southgate. Pope has been brilliant for us but his weakness with his feet has to be taken into account by Southgate. To be fair he has tried to assemble his squad based on form and it's right that Pope is in it.

Im not suggesting pope is perfect, no player is, but the feet thing you refer to has me slightly baffled.

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:55 pm
by taio
Wile E Coyote wrote:Im not suggesting pope is perfect, no player is, but the feet thing you refer to has me slightly baffled.
It was obvious last season that his kicking is the area he needs to improve most.

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:00 pm
by Wile E Coyote
perhaps taio, but by comparison to the other keepers he's miles better overall in my opinion.

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:15 pm
by whiffa
Wile E Coyote wrote:perhaps taio, but by comparison to the other keepers he's miles better overall in my opinion.
As a shot stopper he's as good as any of them - watching Butland at Stoke we saw just how brilliantly he can play the ball out with his feet.

The style of play Southgate is hoping we play I assume.

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:43 pm
by piston broke
Wile E Coyote wrote:perhaps taio, but by comparison to the other keepers he's miles better overall in my opinion.
His kicking of a stationary ball is very good. It's his control and kicking of a moving ball that is poor by post Pep standards. 10 years ago nobody would have commented on it, now it's the flavour of the month.

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:56 pm
by IanMcL
Team not yet announced, so let's hope for Pope. If either of the other 2 playing...injury and bring in Tom! So cruel!

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:01 pm
by Let'sChaseTheDragon
taio wrote:Definitely appears biased. It's not a straightforward call for Southgate. Pope has been brilliant for us but his weakness with his feet has to be taken into account by Southgate. To be fair he has tried to assemble his squad based on form and it's right that Pope is in it.
As Taio says. Very biased.

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:04 pm
by Vegas Claret
I hope he gets a game at some point, then we can stick and extra 15 million on his value as a full international

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:17 pm
by Dyched
Popes distribution is non existent. Those who say a GK is just there to stop it going in are wrong. They play a key role in starting attacks. You can’t give the ball away time and time again at this level. Especially against world class opposition.

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:18 pm
by FactualFrank
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Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:27 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Like the idea he might go in the early games against the weaker sides with only one holding midfield player and 3 attacking players behind Kane

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:28 pm
by Shappie
bobinho wrote:And before someone asks...NO. It wouldn’t look good in claret and blue...


I was just wondering that too!!!

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:28 pm
by Foulthrow
Two Burnley keepers on the bench. Odd.

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:29 pm
by Vegas Claret
not much height in that team

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:30 pm
by Foulthrow
FactualFrank wrote:Thought I'd a create a thread also for those who like to come onto an England game thread to say they won't be watching the England game and have no interest in friendlies.

Expected team according to the papers:
Butland, Walker, Cahill, Stones, Alexander-Arnold, Dier, Lingard, Loftus-Cheek, Young, Sterling, Kane
I won’t be watching the England game and have no interest in friendlies.

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:31 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Not sure height is that important at International football. Pace, composure and a balance of skill and strength are more important qualities for me

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:40 pm
by BigChaCha
Jesus, that team! .....and I thought having to endure Carlton Palmer on the international stage was a low point!

I just don't understand how a country with our population and player base can not produce any world class players. I'd be happy with just one world class player right now and I can't remember the last time I was excited to see an England player in action!

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:46 pm
by claretblue
BigChaCha wrote:and I can't remember the last time I was excited to see an England player in action!
JT... :?

that's the Burnley defender! :D

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:49 pm
by Vegas Claret
piston broke wrote:Followed by Rep. Of Ireland v USA 8pm. Walters, Hendrick, Long?
followed by Iceland v Norway 9pm. JBG?
Long is out

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:52 pm
by tiger76
Foulthrow wrote:Two Burnley keepers on the bench. Odd.
Be a good quiz question in years too come :)

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:53 pm
by Rayaforspain1875
I think that's a really threatening line up.. No Burnley players though, so it must be rubbish..

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:59 pm
by LoveCurryPies
I’m hoping Trippier scores ;)

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:04 pm
by Paul Waine
Foulthrow wrote:Two Burnley keepers on the bench. Odd.
BBC: "On the bench there are three keepers - Tom Heaton, Nick Pope and Jack Butland."

OK. I think the BBC have got their order wrong. Still very impressive that Burnley is represented by 2 goalkeepers in a Squad of 23 + 1 reserve.

But for Tom's injury... who knows, he might have been England's starter. There again, none of us would have known how great Nick Pope also is.

However Sean Dyche resolves things with both Tom and Nick - and I'd love them both to stay through this coming season - it's tremendous achievement by Burnley.

UTC

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:10 pm
by piston broke
Vegas Claret wrote:Long is out
Shane Long is, I haven’t read anything to save Kevin is out.

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:11 pm
by LoveCurryPies
Why the black armbands?

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:13 pm
by RingoMcCartney
In Our Lancashire Homes. We speak with an accent exceedingly rare.

The longside of Burnley will always be there.

If you want an England keeper, we've got one to spare. In our Lancashire Homes.

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:15 pm
by tim_noone
LoveCurryPies wrote:Why the black armbands?
We love the black armband!

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:18 pm
by Devils_Advocate
all 10 outfield players come from the top 5 clubs. Is this favoritism and bias to the big teams or is it because the big teams can afford and attract all the best English players

I reckon its the latter but it seems to irk a lot on here who firmly believe its the former

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:20 pm
by wilks_bfc
Alli getting booed with every touch from Nigerian fans

Sounded that loud I thought it was the England fans doing it

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:21 pm
by starting_11
Ouch!

Ref needs to wake up

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:21 pm
by SalisburyClaret
Alli getting a lot of stick - from the Nigerians

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:21 pm
by Vegas Claret
ouch

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:22 pm
by Dazzler
SalisburyClaret wrote:Alli getting a lot of stick - from the Nigerians
'Racists'

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:23 pm
by Vegas Claret
superb to see Tripps playing for England

and an assist

Re: England vs Nigeria

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:24 pm
by SalisburyClaret
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