Pope to make England debut

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Pope to make England debut

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:11 am

Second half sub according to the Daily Mail.

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:18 am

Englands no1 gets a start at last

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:39 am

Others have followed with the same story - looks as though, from tonight, we'll have two England goalkeepers at Burnley.

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by piston broke » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:41 am

Southgate said yesterday he wanted to see everybody play before setting off. I took that as he would be coming on.

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Tall Paul » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:45 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:Englands no1 gets a start at last
Jack Butland is starting.

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by mdd2 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:36 am

Unbelievable if this turns out to be correct. Two present day England keepers and who would argue against them being the best two too?

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Goobs » Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:43 am

mdd2 wrote:Unbelievable if this turns out to be correct. Two present day England keepers and who would argue against them being the best two too?
Jordan Pickford, Jack Butland, Gareth Southgate and a whole host of big club licking media dip$H!ts

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by mdd2 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:44 am

Time will tell

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by mdd2 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:46 am

Has a club ever had two current England International keepers? I think Leicester had lost Banks before Shilton was capped.

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:21 pm

Seaman and Richard Wright at Arsenal?

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by IanMcL » Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:26 pm

mdd2 wrote:Unbelievable i... who would argue against them being the best two too?
The best two, too - even in a tutu!

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:36 pm

Excellent news. And very well done. A great recognition to not only Pope and Heaton but also Dyche, Billy Mercer the scouts and the club.

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Selby Claret » Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:43 pm

mdd2 wrote:Has a club ever had two current England International keepers? I think Leicester had lost Banks before Shilton was capped.
Ben Foster and Jack Butland at Birmingham...?

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:48 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:Seaman and Richard Wright at Arsenal?
It appears to be the case, well spotted

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by cutsy123 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:11 pm

I hope butlins and prickford both get injured

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Garforth Claret » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:21 pm

I have my tickets for tonight - I will give him a special Clarets cheer
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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by starting_11 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:23 pm

I'll believe it when I see it.

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Socrates » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:51 pm

Goobs wrote:Jordan Pickford, Jack Butland, Gareth Southgate and a whole host of big club licking media dip$H!ts

Yeah ...... those massive clubs Stoke and Everton.

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Goobs » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:38 pm

Socrates wrote:Yeah ...... those massive clubs Stoke and Everton.
Where did I say Stoke and Everton were big clubs. Just mentioned that those in the media that kiss the asses of the big clubs are the same type of people that will be touting for Pickford and Butland as they are "big names". They will always be media Darlings unless Pope or Heaton get a move to a more fashionable club that pay the larger wages.

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by hampsteadclaret » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:49 pm

Would be odd to take Nicky Pope to Russia, without him having ANY game time before he went...he might HAVE to play in Russia [if there are injuries OR sending off plus ban..]

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by houseboy » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:50 pm

It's going to be interesting to see if they both stay over the next window. I hope they do but I just find it difficult to see England international goalkeepers willing to sit on the bench. Good/great goalies don't fall out of trees. Even if they aren't seriously 'established' yet no-one can take those caps away.
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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by LoveCurryPies » Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:55 pm

A mistake or two and Pope will get all sorts of flak because he is from Burnley FC. A faultless performance and we will be unindated with transfer offers for Nick.

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by claretblue » Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:36 pm

mdd2 wrote:Unbelievable if this turns out to be correct. Two present day England keepers and who would argue against them being the best two too?
Desmond Tutu's the best Tu Tu too! :D

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by starting_11 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:42 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:A mistake or two and Pope will get all sorts of flak because he is from Burnley FC. A faultless performance and we will be unindated with transfer offers for Nick.
Good job we got two then! :D

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Buxtonclaret » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:39 pm

Could be one more night to be an incredibly proud Claret. 8-)

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by claret10 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:07 pm

mdd2 wrote:Has a club ever had two current England International keepers? I think Leicester had lost Banks before Shilton was capped.
Imagine if this had happened this time last year and we could have claimed to technically have 3 at the same time with Robinson!

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:57 pm

Should be giving Butland a full game. Pope is rightly 3rd choice and no chance of playing in the tournament so seems pointless taking valuable game time away from Butland and Pickford
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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Stan Tastic » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:14 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Should be giving Butland a full game. Pope is rightly 3rd choice and no chance of playing in the tournament so seems pointless taking valuable game time away from Butland and Pickford
Apt username.

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by TVC15 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:16 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Should be giving Butland a full game. Pope is rightly 3rd choice and no chance of playing in the tournament so seems pointless taking valuable game time away from Butland and Pickford
Is that what you want to happen ?

Butland is second choice so also got very little chance of playing. What difference does it make if he only plays one half tonight ?

Its clearly not pointless handing a player his first cap.

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by South West Claret. » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:22 pm

It really would be great to see him given some game time but fear that unless the other two drop dead it won’t happen before or during the WC.

The main reason is the managers view I.e. “They are both good with their feet, Jordan is exceptional I think. In international football, the number of touches with your feet far outweigh the number of touches with your hands.”

As important as a keeper being good with their feet is I would think that being an excellent shot stopper and the VG season he has had would at least see him get on tonight.

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:31 pm

TVC15 wrote:Is that what you want to happen ?

Butland is second choice so also got very little chance of playing. What difference does it make if he only plays one half tonight ?

Its clearly not pointless handing a player his first cap.
Last game before the tournament isnt the time to play lets give people caps and Butland is running Pickford close for 1st choice so I think its important to give him more game time

Im not bothered about Pope getting capped tonight because in the coming years he'll get his caps and has every chance of eventually being first choice. For now im more concerned about getting Butland in above Pickford cos i think Butlands the best keeper we've got at the moment

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by IanMcL » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:47 pm

Come on Popey

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by claretdj » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:48 pm

Pope is better than BOTH of them, the stats back this up but he never gets a look in! :(

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by clitheroeclaret2 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:52 pm

Noticed Lee Dixon & Wrighty in the studio.
1 played for BFC at start of career, one at end. Could be a good omen

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by JohnMac » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:55 pm

You wouldn't even know he was in the squad. It is Pickford then Butland and probably Walker after that.
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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by ecc » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:08 pm

"Should be giving Butland a full game. Pope is rightly 3rd choice and no chance of playing in the tournament so seems pointless taking valuable game time away from Butland and Pickford"

Is this no longer a Burnley FC Fans' Forum?

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:16 pm

ecc wrote:"Should be giving Butland a full game. Pope is rightly 3rd choice and no chance of playing in the tournament so seems pointless taking valuable game time away from Butland and Pickford"

Is this no longer a Burnley FC Fans' Forum?
Are Burnley fans not allowed to prioritise their national teams interests over the interests of a Burnley player?
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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by ecc » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:17 pm

They can if they want to.

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by ElectroClaret » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:18 pm

No chance of playing in the tournament?

What if the others pick up injuries?

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Buxtonclaret » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:20 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Are Burnley fans not allowed to prioritise their national teams interests over the interests of a Burnley player?
Now who's being stupid! ;)

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by South West Claret. » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:24 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:No chance of playing in the tournament?

What if the others pick up injuries?

Then we would have a keeper making his England debut in the WC, not at all helpful for all sorts of obvious reasons.

That’s why it would seem silly not to blood Pope tonight.

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Claretuk » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:05 pm

Southgate your having a laugh! Pope doesn't even get the 2nd half of tonights friendly? I thought he said he was going to give all the squad a chance to prove they deserve a chance? Lies n more lies.

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by MACCA » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:10 pm

Claretuk wrote:Southgate your having a laugh! Pope doesn't even get the 2nd half of tonights friendly? I thought he said he was going to give all the squad a chance to prove they deserve a chance? Lies n more lies.
The game isn't over yet, he'll get a token 10-20 minutes, he's been promised it.

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:11 pm

Usual inaccurate shite from the Daily Tory no sign of Englands no1.is it to be a 10min cameo like Tom got.?

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by ElectroClaret » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:11 pm

Did GS actually say he'd be getting a full half?
Or was it just assumed he would?

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Claretuk » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:18 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:Did GS actually say he'd be getting a full half?
Or was it just assumed he would?
He said he would give ALL his squad game time to prove themselves n stake a claim as nothing is set in stone squad wise. Unless you play for Burnley n are the best English keeper in the league! :lol:

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:19 pm

Sensible by Southgate he has managed this World Cup build up superbly. Hopefully Pope will get 10 mins to stop the Samaritans helpline getting overrun with suicidal Burnley fans
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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Damo » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:23 pm

Of course Burnley fans will want to see their player in an England shirt.
Even the boards biggest attention seekers understand that don't they?
He's on now anyway

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by bfcjg » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:24 pm

On he comes so proud.

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Re: Pope to make England debut

Post by Cabbage » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:24 pm

He’s on! UTC!

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