All the SNP MPs walk out after a row with John Bercow.

Hugely entertaining.

Did they take the high road ?

Lock the bloody doors and don’t let them back in.

bfcjg wrote:Did they take the high road ?

Probably gone for an Irn-bru.

Northern Uproar

The've gone home to think again

Oh what fun this brexit stuff is causing

Typical Scots they only got as far as the bar.

You should at least try and understand the issues before resorting to stale stereotypes. The Tories have effectively imposed direct rule on Scotland, having offered 'the most powerful devolved parliament in the world' back in 2014. Westminster have now taken back n=most of the devolved powers without even a debate in Parliament.

The SNP have every right to be annoyed, and every other party in Scotland apart from the Tories is of the same view.

Pity the UK Labour party were so so spineless and abstained on the votes.

KeighleyClaret wrote:Westminster have now taken back n=most of the devolved powers without even a debate in Parliament.

The SNP have every right to be annoyed.

.

Do the English have every right to be annoyed? There isn't an English parliament that Westminster can even take back power from!

England - the only country in Europe without it's own parliament.

Hahaha

SNP in "uproar"

Fury!

Oh wot larks.

They were right to walk out, their grievance stands up.

RingoMcCartney wrote:Do the English have every right to be annoyed? There isn't an English parliament that Westminster can even take back power from!

England - the only country in Europe without it's own parliament.

England are not grown up enough to have their own parliament. Nothing moemre than village hall gatherings can be risked.

Oh god, wee Jimmy Krankie will be heard soon

ElectroClaret wrote:All the SNP MPs walk out after a row with John Bercow.

Hugely entertaining.

I saw it too, it was pretty funny. And when May and Corbyn were against eachother, I half expected May to suddenly go.. "Bants!"

Typical grievance mining from the SNP who’s general argument is loosing support rapid.

KeighleyClaret wrote:You should at least try and understand the issues before resorting to stale stereotypes. The Tories have effectively imposed direct rule on Scotland, having offered 'the most powerful devolved parliament in the world' back in 2014. Westminster have now taken back n=most of the devolved powers without even a debate in Parliament.

The SNP have every right to be annoyed, and every other party in Scotland apart from the Tories is of the same view.

Pity the UK Labour party were so so spineless and abstained on the votes.

Did they want it all done in one fell swoop? According to the BBC report, no powers have been taken from the Scottish parliament. The powers have been taken from the Brussels parliament and transferred for the time being to Westminster. What happens to those powers after Brexit, is another question - but certainly the UK government has a far far better record of devolving powers to its constituent countries than the EU has. When the EU gets powers, it tends not to give them up.

Anyway, why was the SNP leader so determined to throw the public observers out of Parliament?

Once again, the UK becomes even more ridiculous and farcical in the eyes of the watching world.

Right_winger wrote:loosing

Please Right_whinger, tell us more about who is "loosing".

Perfect time for the next Independence vote (fingers crossed)

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Perfect time for the next Independence vote (fingers crossed)

A post-brexit England, deprived of Scotland's oil money, will be back to eating turnips within a generation.

I like turnips.

SNP- "This was not a stunt". Unfortunately they left their script in the Commons...I wonder if they practice their outrage... https://t.co/3x1V7Mx1Q8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

that's from yesterday.

Epic fail Damo

Once again, the UK becomes even more ridiculous and farcical in the eyes of the watching world.

I'm pretty sure the rest of the world have not watched any of it and if they did, would probably find it tame compared to politics in the rest of the world where recently for example the Spanish police were giving the Catalonian voters a good beating!

Yet more evidence if you believe in Brexit you'll put up with absolutely anything.

BigChaCha wrote:I'm pretty sure the rest of the world have not watched any of it and if they did, would probably find it tame compared to politics in the rest of the world where recently for example the Spanish police were giving the Catalonian voters a good beating!

Turkey would have a good old parliamentary ding-dong.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/92256/controve ... parliament

Don’t rely on the BBC reports to be unbiased in this matter. Fact is that for the next 7 years all powers repatriated from Europe in 8 crucial policy areas will reside in Westminster, having originally been devolved. This was done without agreement or debate. At the end of the 7 years a new internal market will have been long established so that the powers will not be repatriated.

Vino blanco wrote:I like turnips.

Well you can't have any of our turnips. It's always the same, come over hear and eat our turnips, well it won't happen after brexit.

God I’m ******* bored of politics.

KeighleyClaret wrote:Don’t rely on the BBC reports to be unbiased in this matter. Fact is that for the next 7 years all powers repatriated from Europe in 8 crucial policy areas will reside in Westminster, having originally been devolved. This was done without agreement or debate. At the end of the 7 years a new internal market will have been long established so that the powers will not be repatriated.

Holyrood have never had any of these powers which currently reside with the EU. They clearly don’t want them either.

All the SNP want to do is mine grievance with Westminster to keep their independence debate relevant.

Best option is to dissolve Holyrood anyway as it’s a complete waste of resources.

KeighleyClaret wrote:You should at least try and understand the issues before resorting to stale stereotypes. The Tories have effectively imposed direct rule on Scotland, having offered 'the most powerful devolved parliament in the world' back in 2014. Westminster have now taken back n=most of the devolved powers without even a debate in Parliament.

The SNP have every right to be annoyed, and every other party in Scotland apart from the Tories is of the same view.

Pity the UK Labour party were so so spineless and abstained on the votes.

Yep. Indyref2 should be a breeze now.

Imploding Turtle wrote:Yep. Indyref2 should be a breeze now.

********, support for both Indy and the SNP is dropping rapidly.

Then again it always would once people started seeing through the tripe served up from the SNP/Indy camp.

UpTheBeehole wrote:A post-brexit England, deprived of Scotland's oil money, will be back to eating turnips within a generation.

" Up the Beehole " ..... reporting from 1993 or whereabouts...

UK Public expenditure in Scotland ( 2016/17 ) .... £ 71.2 bn

Oil Revenues attributable to Scotland ..... £ 208 m

Public spending per head in Scotland is 11% higher than the UK average...

http://www.gov.scot/Publications/2017/08/7201

We are the United Kingdom and have been since 1707

But no, because we now blame foreigners for everything, little englanders now want to throw all that away.

Right_winger wrote:********, support for both Indy and the SNP is dropping rapidly.

Then again it always would once people started seeing through the tripe served up from the SNP/Indy camp.

If you can't keep the promises you make then don't make the promises.

In exchange for a No vote the Tories promised we'd stay in the EU and that Scotland would get a bunch more devolved powers.

In exchange for us voting to Leave the EU the right and far right promised us we could get a really soft brexit. Then when they squeezed the narrowest of wins they went all out for a rock hard Brexit and said that anything else wasn't respecting the will of the people.


It's becoming a trend with your lot on ther right and far right. Promise, promise, promise, and then back track all the way when you get the vote you want. How many times more do you think you'll be able to do that before the rest of us just don't believe a single word you say in campaigns?

lots of pathetic and childish anti scot comments from the boards regular cretins, shameful in my opinion, but to be expected from the truly imbecilic .

The story, including video, in today's The Times on-line.

SNP in Commons walkout over Brexit bill

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/snp- ... 9984056aa3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

With luck interested posters may be able to "pass through" the Times paywall.

And a different story in the Scotland section - obviously reporting on the night before:

‘Dark day for devolution’ as Brexit vote ignores Scots

Efforts to solve a constitutional row between Westminster and Holyrood over Brexit powers failed last night, after an amendment to the EU withdrawal bill was passed without the Scottish parliament’s consent.

Mike Russell, the Brexit minister, called the move a dark day for Scotland, and nationalist MPs sought to raise points of order after being angered by a lack of debating time.

The dispute centres on what should happen to powers held by Brussels in 24 areas that would usually be devolved. The UK government wants ultimate control of the powers, arguing that it has to protect the internal market, for up to seven years after Brexit. The SNP says this undermines the devolution settlement, whereby everything not explicitly reserved is devolved, so the Brexit change represents a “power grab”.

Westminster usually requires Holyrood’s consent to legislate in devolved areas, but this is a convention, not a legal requirement. The Scottish parliament had rejected the UK government’s Brexit bill, with only Conservative MSPs voting in favour. Mr Russell said last night: “For almost 20 years, decisions made by the Scottish parliament on issues affecting devolution have been final. Today the UK government tore up the constitutional rule book and imposed its will in the face of an overwhelming vote in parliament.
“The fact that they railroaded this measure through with no time for speeches from anyone other than the UK government minister shows utter contempt for Scottish democracy. This is a dark day for devolution.”

The UK government insisted that the amendment to the bill respected the devolution settlement. It was opposed by 33 SNP MPs, four Plaid Cymru MPs, and one MP each from the Labour, Green and Liberal Democrat parties. Most Labour MPs abstained.
David Mundell, the Scottish secretary, said: “The EU Withdrawal Bill provides certainty for business and families in Scotland as we leave the EU. It fully respects both the spirit and letter of the devolution settlement.
“It guarantees the vast majority of powers . . . will go directly to Edinburgh, Cardiff and Belfast. In a small number of areas current arrangements will remain in place until we can create new UK-wide frameworks.”

The number of MPs and Peers we have is truly staggering in comparison to the number who legislate in the US or India for their size of population by comparison.

All of this funded by the U.K. tax payer.

Just saying........

International class wrote:The number of MPs and Peers we have is truly staggering in comparison to the number who legislate in the US or India for their size of population by comparison.

All of this funded by the U.K. tax payer.

Just saying........

Completely agree IC major reform is urgently needed,the HOC and the HOL could be downsized without impacting on our parliamentary democracy,in addition we have Holyrood,Cardiff Bay,Stormont, plus elected Mayors,County Councils and other local authority councillors,how many jobsworths do we need in this country and on top of that we send over 70 MEP'S to Brussels.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... s-44481490 the Nats aren't backing down that's for sure.

Corbyn regularly wiping the floor with Theresa May in these now.

Wile E Coyote wrote:lots of pathetic and childish anti scot comments from the boards regular cretins, shameful in my opinion, but to be expected from the truly imbecilic .

uwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww sounds like somebody has got their sporran in a twist.

AndrewJB wrote:Corbyn regularly wiping the floor with Theresa May in these now.

imagine if they mattered.

pmqs is the biggest waste of an hour in parliament every week.

Good to see your faith in Corbyn isn't wavering, Andrew.

***** sake Andrew, he needs to wipe the floor with her in stuff that actually matters.

Any chance of him and bunch of Tory policy enablers doing that anytime soon?

Wile E Coyote wrote:lots of pathetic and childish anti scot comments from the boards regular cretins, shameful in my opinion, but to be expected from the truly imbecilic .

Oh, the irony ..... Wile criticising " pathetic and childish " comments !