BBC for me, they have both gradually snuck in these obscure female women footballers masquerading as pundits for some inexplicable reason ,they sound like someone's girlfriend who has read up on the rules to make converstion, but BBC still outshine the dross on the other channel.
ian wright floats between both like a bluebottle, irritating and needs swatting.
Roy Keane was useful about ten years ago for his simmering wrath, but now he just sits there looking thick.
Jenus loves himself, but is a dud, still ten time better than the advertising frenzied commercial effluence of ITV though.

Talk Sport.

Wile E Coyote wrote:BBC for me, they have both gradually snuck in these obscure female women footballers masquerading as pundits for some inexplicable reason ,they sound like someone's girlfriend who has read up on the rules to make converstion, but BBC still outshine the dross on the other channel.
ian wright floats between both like a bluebottle, irritating and needs swatting.
Roy Keane was useful about ten years ago for his simmering wrath, but now he just sits there looking thick.
Jenus loves himself, but is a dud, still ten time better than the advertising frenzied commercial effluence of ITV though.

That "girlfriend who has read up on the rules to make conversation" has played 102 times for England. What's your tally?

every single word you have said there is correct.

the bbc is still the best but the positive discrimination is cringeworthy.

but who do you choose? dublin is far too clever for this lark.

102 TIMES of nothingness, but I knew there would be some sap who regarded her caps with grovelling, right on, equality claptrap, well done.

Roy Keane is beyond tedious, the miserable ****

What is it about her that makes her less qualified than any of the other pundits?

I like Ian Wright. He reminds me of ablueclaret

I like Alex Scott.

She knows her football and she's a bit of a looker.

A winning combination.

Listening to a Croatian a Welshman and a young Nigerian born female footballer discussing the ins and outs of a game of football seems a bit Irish to me!

Bin Ont Turf wrote:I like Alex Scott.

She knows her football and she's a bit of a Hooker

A winning combination.

Really?

dixon, way past it, dull times ten, although itv did have a moment when phil neville summed up the spain portugal match, he was eloquent and articulate.

tim_noone wrote:Really?

Yes, really stop quoting my posts and changing them.

No volume and radio on.

The sexist **** are out in force tonight fat bastards who don't want women to play football.
She has represented her country over 100 times and all you misogynist w4nk3r5 do is slag her off.
What have you done except share your narrow minded opinions on a poxy football message board.

Imploding Turtle wrote:What is it about her that makes her less qualified than any of the other pundits?

She is female.

brexit wrote:The sexist **** are out in force tonight fat bastards who don't want women to play football.
She has represented her country over 100 times and all you misogynist w4nk3r5 do is slag her off.
What have you done except share your narrow minded opinions on a poxy football message board.

shut up you mindless clone, they will gladly sign you up to the fawning, accept everything club.

brexit wrote:The sexist **** are out in force tonight fat bastards who don't want women to play football.
She has represented her country over 100 times and all you misogynist w4nk3r5 do is slag her off.
What have you done except share your narrow minded opinions on a poxy football message board.

I see the fatist **** are out in force!

Beeb for me every time.

brexit wrote:The sexist **** are out in force tonight fat bastards who don't want women to play football.
She has represented her country over 100 times and all you misogynist w4nk3r5 do is slag her off.
What have you done except share your narrow minded opinions on a poxy football message board.

do you actually want me to detail every aspect of my life in order to dilute your pap into something humans can grasp

Fox Sports but the Mexican channel is cool for some Latin atmosphere

brexit wrote:The sexist **** are out in force tonight fat bastards who don't want women to play football.
She has represented her country over 100 times and all you misogynist w4nk3r5 do is slag her off.
What have you done except share your narrow minded opinions on a poxy football message board.

Right on sister!

It is not compulsory to listen to all the analysis drivel..I just watch the football.

BBC and ITV are both rubbish these days.

Back in 1974, ITV had a proper world cup panel - Brian Clough, Brian Moore, Derek Dougan, Malcolm Allison, Jack Charlton .... and Peter Sutcliffe.

tim_noone wrote:Listening to a Croatian a Welshman and a young Nigerian born female footballer discussing the ins and outs of a game of football seems a bit Irish to me!

Racist, nationalistic and sexist, are white English working classes the only people in your opinion that should be on tv football programmes. Time to join the 21st century.

Grimsdale wrote:BBC and ITV are both rubbish these days.

Back in 1974, ITV had a proper world cup panel - Brian Clough, Brian Moore, Derek Dougan, Malcolm Allison, Jack Charlton .... and Peter Sutcliffe.

Did Brian Moore have to sit down because his feet were broken?

BBC simply because they don't have Hoddle

Dazzler wrote:It is not compulsory to listen to all the analysis drivel..I just watch the football.

Same here, watched all 4 games yesterday and zero analysis. If you’ve got some issue with listening to women talk about football, just watch Top Gear repeats on Dave right up until kick off.

Or RTV for a well balanced view of how the tournament is progressing.

Don’t really get the point of pundits no matter their colour creed or gender. I find I am pretty capable of watching a game and having my own opinion.

I now also don’t see the point of these tunnel interviewers anymore who’ve gone from asking the coach about the game to trying to catch the coach out with questions which might create the next Fleet Street scoop.

Barry_Chuckle wrote:Did Brian Moore have to sit down because his feet were broken?

Tears of laughter. Who the hell sits like that.

Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote:BBC simply because they don't have Hoddle

I can't say I have a preference. I just sometimes listen to what they've said and then watch the football.

Phil Neville on the BBC has come out with some good points, but so too has Bilic on ITV - although I don't expect to see both Roy Keane and Slaven Bilic in the same studio anytime soon, or if so, not sat next to eachother. They don't appear to like eachother very much going off the vibes.

Grimsdale wrote:BBC and ITV are both rubbish these days.

Back in 1974, ITV had a proper world cup panel - Brian Clough, Brian Moore, Derek Dougan, Malcolm Allison, Jack Charlton .... and Peter Sutcliffe.

Peter Sutcliffe ....nice one Grimsdale that post made me giggle.

Who is the random Sutcliffe lookalike anyway?

Is it Mo Salah's dad?

Derek Dougan

Steve1956 wrote:Who is the random Sutcliffe lookalike anyway?

Russell Brand?

Looks a bit like him out of Starsky & Hutch.

Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote:Derek Dougan

Is there two Derek Dougan's in that photo then?

Steve1956 wrote:Looks a bit like him out of Starsky & Hutch.

Starsky?

No Hutch

Anyone seen Michael Owen yet....or has he been finally Sussed ?

I can only assume the BBC and ITV have more sense than BT.

I don't have any problem with female commentators - you have got that job because of their ability to commentate on the game, anyone can do that regardless of sex. I do have a problem when they are providing expert analysis though because although they have played at international level they can't give you a true insight as there was nothing like the same level of scrutiny, pressure and intensity in the women's game than in the men's. The role of the 'expert' should be to provide an insight that a media journalist can't. I fully admit that many male ex-footballer's don't do that - however that's a problem for the Beeb or ITV who should replace them with people who do.

Imploding Turtle wrote:What is it about her that makes her less qualified than any of the other pundits?

I suppose it is like having an England international semi pro on the panel. Has represented England, knows the rules, but played at a far lower standard than what we are watching.

If BBC rolled out a male semi pro, would you not wonder why?

Agree with Stevo's gloves.

The BBC as usual as there are no brainless adverts and commentators are generally better then ITV...Wright and Shearer for example

South West Claret. wrote:The BBC as usual as there are no brainless adverts and commentators are generally better then ITV...Wright and Shearer for example

Although Wright has defected to ITV for the Workd Cup

wilks_bfc wrote:Although Wright has defected to ITV for the Workd Cup

Oh really...another tick for the BBC then

Alanstevensonsgloves wrote:I suppose it is like having an England international semi pro on the panel. Has represented England, knows the rules, but played at a far lower standard than what we are watching.

If BBC rolled out a male semi pro, would you not wonder why?

Do you think Mourinho has never done punditry?