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Same here, only those visiting have to sneeze four times before they get an MR scanFactualFrank wrote:I was in a Florida hospital for 2 weeks. Think the bill we got was over $40000. This was in 1999 too. Fortunately our insurance covered it, after weeks of them trying to get out of it.
They give you a full body CT Scan in the US if you sneeze twice.
A shithole nation that has preserved our democracy for a century.piston broke wrote:Don’t go to the shithole. No problem.
Yes but at the same time they have elected a bafoon like Bush Jr not once but twice! and then just compound matters elect the ridiculous Billionaire Trump.mdd2 wrote:A shithole nation that has preserved our democracy for a century.
The drip drip undermining of the NHS goes on every time we have a Conservative government.. while at the same denying it.Rowls wrote:This is definitely going to happen once the secret plan to destroy the NHS is revealed and after it has happened.
It's the ambition of so many people out there to destroy the NHS completely.
You can tell who they are because they deny it.
This is definitely going to happen very soon to YOUR hospital.
buffoon*South West Claret. wrote:Yes but at the same time they have elected a bafoon like Bush Jr not once but twice! and then just compound matters elect the ridiculous Billionaire Trump.
Thank you spellchecker what would we do without people like you.thatdberight wrote:buffoon*
If you're going to deride others' intelligence...
South West Claret. wrote:Thank you spellchecker what would we do without people like you.
I think the NHS does a pretty good job of that itself with the help of those who (ab)use itSouth West Claret. wrote:The drip drip undermining of the NHS goes on every time we have a Conservative government.. while at the same denying it.
Helped preserve our democracy and when it suited them (i.e. they were threatened).mdd2 wrote:A shithole nation that has preserved our democracy for a century.
Like when they declared war on Germany after the Japs bombed Pearl Harbourbf2k wrote:Helped preserve our democracy and when it suited them (i.e. they were threatened).
Germany and Italy declared war on America after they declared war on Japan.mdd2 wrote:Like when they declared war on Germany after the Japs bombed Pearl Harbour
We do or did. That was what the national insurance payment was for.Stayingup wrote:Problem is we don't have enough hospitals and doctors and nurses and now too many people. I was in the French system for a long time and each patient in the system had to pay a %age of every visit to the hospital or doctor or dentist @ 30%. A small insurance would repay that. About Euros 50 / month.
But if you were not in the system and had not paid in for two years you had to pay 100% cost.
We should have a similar system and it would sort the NHS. But our totally useless politicians and bleeding hearts would never implement such a system
Not sure if that is a serious comment or sarcastic, but anyway, just to clarify - for those who aren't aware. The USA did NOT declare war on Germany in 1941 - or at least not until Germany were already at war with them.mdd2 wrote:Like when they declared war on Germany after the Japs bombed Pearl Harbour
God help us!“The United States is a land of stark contrasts. It is one of the world’s wealthiest societies, a global leader in many areas, and a land of unsurpassed technological and other forms of innovation. Its corporations are global trendsetters, its civil society is vibrant and sophisticated, and its higher education system leads the world. But its immense wealth and expertise stand in shocking contrast with the conditions in which vast numbers of its citizens live. About 40 million live in poverty, 18.5 million in extreme poverty, and 5.3million live in Third World conditions of absolute poverty.
It has the highest youth poverty rate in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), and the highest infant mortality rates among comparable OECD States. Its citizens live shorter and sicker lives compared to those living in all other rich democracies, eradicable tropical diseases are increasingly prevalent, and it has the world’s highest incarceration rate, one of the lowest levels of voter registrations in among OECD countries and the highest obesity levels in the developed world.
The United States has the highest rate of income inequality among Western countries.
The $1.5 trillion in tax cuts in December 2017 overwhelmingly benefited the wealthy and worsened inequality. The consequences of neglecting poverty and promoting inequality are clear. The United States has one of the highest poverty and inequality levels among the OECD countries, and the Stanford Center on Inequality and Poverty ranks it 18th out of 21 wealthy countries in terms of labour markets, poverty rates, safety nets, wealth inequality and economic mobility. But in 2018 the United States had over 25 percent of the world’s 2,208 billionaires.
There is thus a dramatic contrast between the immense wealth of the few and the squalor and deprivation in which vast numbers of Americans exist. For almost five decades the overall policy response has been neglectful at best, but the policies pursued over the past year seem deliberately designed to remove basic protections from the poorest, punish those who are not in employment and make even basic health care into a privilege to be earned rather than a right of citizenship.”....
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Even after the Axis powers declared war on the US the President and Congress did not declare war on Germany or Italy until after some of it's ships were sunk by German submarines.nil_desperandum wrote:Not sure if that is a serious comment or sarcastic, but anyway, just to clarify - for those who aren't aware. The USA did NOT declare war on Germany in 1941 - or at least not until Germany were already at war with them.
Churchill had been on at them to oppose Nazism, and Chamberlain's policy of appeasement since the mid-30s, and since 1940 had been desperately pleading with them. USA declared war on Japan following Pearl Harbour, and 4 days later Hitler declared war on USA in support of one of his Axis allies.
USA did of course have no alternative but to then declare war on Germany.
Jolly good I like to hear people enjoying themselves.thatdberight wrote:Thank you,*spellchecker.* W*hat would we do without people like you?*
Pleasure. All mine.
Thanks for the heads up on that. Only took them 50 days from Pearl Harbour to have boots on the ground in UK.bfcmik wrote:Even after the Axis powers declared war on the US the President and Congress did not declare war on Germany or Italy until after some of it's ships were sunk by German submarines.
Because they were threatened by them... Not sure why you're trying to refute bf2k's post. America has never come to our rescue, they've only ever been dragged into the fight.mdd2 wrote:Thanks for the heads up on that. Only took them 50 days from Pearl Harbour to have boots on the ground in UK.
Declaration of war on the 11th December 4days after Pearl Harbour was by Italy then Germany and then US congress reciprocated. The reality (having looked all this up) was that the american Navy had been engaging German U boats in the atlantic since mid 1941.
South West Claret. wrote:Jolly good I like to hear people enjoying themselves.
Your point is well made but, just in case anyone thinks that's all it costs them, don't forget that it's also 22% of the VAT, car tax, IPT, National Insurance, Employer's National Insurance, Corporation Tax (those profits often going towards people's pension pots), excise duties on alcohol, cigarettes, fuel etc... and so on.Dy1geo wrote:Every year we get a bill to help pay for the NHS, it’s just that you pay it out of your general taxation. It amounts to approximately 22% of what you pay in taxes so if you earn around £25,000, you will pay approximately £575 out of your annual paye tax bill of £2620 towards the NHS. If you earn more you will pay more but to me that is still the fairest way to pay for universal healthcare.
Strangely enough, for those of us who are not self-employed or able to avoid tax, 22% is about the same as the amount generated from our wages as 'National Insurance' payments. The employee and employer both contribute a significant chunk of change for every pound on the top line of their wage slip.Dy1geo wrote:Every year we get a bill to help pay for the NHS, it’s just that you pay it out of your general taxation. It amounts to approximately 22% of what you pay in taxes so if you earn around £25,000, you will pay approximately £575 out of your annual paye tax bill of £2620 towards the NHS. If you earn more you will pay more but to me that is still the fairest way to pay for universal healthcare.
Strange post.evensteadiereddie wrote:Jolly good. I like to hear people enjoying themselves.
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Jolly good, I like to hear people enjoying themselves
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Jolly good: I like to hear people enjoying themselves.
Er, just as a matter of interest, how do you do that - put a glass up to the neighbours' bedroom wall ?