Anybody seen the interview with dyche when the reporter asked him about players and he said there was 3 or 4 done deals but for when ever reason they have gone elsewere . I wonder who he was talking about

If they went elsewhere they weren't done deals

fatboy47 wrote:If they went elsewhere they weren't done deals

They was his words not mine

Reecey1987 wrote:Anybody seen the interview with dyche when the reporter asked him about players and he said there was 3 or 4 done deals but for when ever reason they have gone elsewere . I wonder who he was talking about

Mawson

If this is true then our situation is far worse than I suspected. Losing 1 ‘done deal’ unexpectedly is one thing but for the same thing to happen 4 times raises massive questions about our recruitment processes

MRG wrote:If this is true then our situation is far worse than I suspected. Losing 1 ‘done deal’ unexpectedly is one thing but for the same thing to happen 4 times raises massive questions about our recruitment processes

Agreed

Going to need proof, preferably from someone with a better grasp of English.

I think Salary issues will be our downfall. Fulham rumoured to be offering 80k a week to Masson.

Any links to this interview?

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Going to need proof, preferably from someone with a better grasp of English.

Watch sky sports news

Very worrying if true.

Check out @Athlete57’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/Athlete57/status/10 ... 01697?s=09" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Reecey1987 wrote:Watch sky sports news

I don't have Sky mate.

Bin Ont Turf wrote:I don't have Sky mate.

Check that link out

If wages were an issue how did we manage to sign Chris Wood, for example? Surely other clubs would have been interested in him and therefore been able to offer more. The same goes for Brady.

Reecey1987 wrote:Check out @Athlete57’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/Athlete57/status/10 ... 01697?s=09" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Done deals exchanged pleasantries, everyone says yes yes yes, then they go somewhere else

I can't see Dyche putting up with this much longer.

Spijed wrote:If wages were an issue how did we manage to sign Chris Wood, for example? Surely other clubs would have been interested in him and therefore been able to offer more. The same goes for Brady.

Presumably other PL clubs didn't want them.

Wouldn't be surprised if agents' fees have been a factor in the deals Dyche refers to as well.

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I was basically saying i wonder who they was . It sounds like dyche is just as much annoyed as we are

Amateurish at best

The happy clappers can back the board as much as they want but this window like many others is proving ridiculous. Sean wont be here much longer if this is how we carrh on conducting our business

You've got to wonder if for all his amazing qualities that when it comes to recruitment Dyche is limited by his need to have players with very specific character traits.

When we already struggle competing on wages having a manager who probably veto's a high percentage of identified potential targets cos they aren't a "Dyche type" player who will fit the "group" then recruiting is always going to be hard.

The one thing guaranteed though is once the season starts and we have our squad to work with we have one of the best man manager / leader / tactician about who never fails to get the absolute best out of the team as a group

gandhisflipflop wrote:I can't see Dyche putting up with this much longer.

I doubt he reads this messageboard and he is a strong character, the moaning would be water off a ducks back.

Did he double bluff the sarcasm when he replies to this?

I reckon he'll put up with £3.5 million a year a while longer yet.

Bfcboyo wrote:I doubt he reads this messageboard and he is a strong character, the moaning would be water off a ducks back.

I was talking about our shoddy recruitment team. He has brought this club into the 21st century kicking and screaming and yet we still have complete jokers working behind the scenes.

It's clear as day what he means.
They've had some "agreements" which the players (or their agents) have later renaigued on.

gandhisflipflop wrote:I was talking about our shoddy recruitment team. He has brought this club into the 21st century kicking and screaming and yet we still have complete jokers working behind the scenes.

Really?


This guy is a bluffer ok. Surely he play another cool hand and ignore me taking the mickey a bit.

Devils_Advocate wrote:You've got to wonder if for all his amazing qualities that when it comes to recruitment Dyche is limited by his need to have players with very specific character traits.

When we already struggle competing on wages having a manager who probably veto's a high percentage of identified potential targets cos they aren't a "Dyche type" player who will fit the "group" then recruiting is always going to be hard.

The one thing guaranteed though is once the season starts and we have our squad to work with we have one of the best man manager / leader / tactician about who never fails to get the absolute best out of the team as a group

That's been mentioned before, that part of the issue is Dyche being very precise in the type of player he wants, and that in itself is one of the reasons why we often struggle to get all of our targets.

Thanks Reecey for sharing this interview.

We’re gonna end up with sweet bugger all by the end of this, judging by that.

Bfcboyo wrote:Really?

In some departments yes. It does give off an amateurish impression.

I probably could of phrased it a bit better . Sorry for the confusion

Now the 3/4 signings he said we had ready I am struggling to think who these may be. Looking at all the signings made by premier league clubs there is probably only Bobby Reid that we would have been in for. No others suit us and we wouldnt have enough info on others. So I come to the conclusion that these signings we have missed out on have gone to Championship which shows how far behind we really are in living in the real world as far as football finances go

Reecey1987 wrote: I was basically saying i wonder who they was . It sounds like dyche is just as much annoyed as we are

The man thrives in adversity.

Don't underestimate the power of the Dyche side.

We'll have players in before the end of the window, don't worry about that.

They won't satisfy everyone, but then again there hasn't been a transfer window since Dyche has been here which has satisfied everyone.

Recruitment needs to change. Dyche wants specific players, not specific player profiles. It’s harming things because there aren’t enough back up options, leading us to chase the same players all window - and windows that follow. I understand his philosophy, but scouts and whatnot exist for a reason.

Also a reason why we don’t seem to acknowledge foreign leagues.

Devils_Advocate wrote:You've got to wonder if for all his amazing qualities that when it comes to recruitment Dyche is limited by his need to have players with very specific character traits.

When we already struggle competing on wages having a manager who probably veto's a high percentage of identified potential targets cos they aren't a "Dyche type" player who will fit the "group" then recruiting is always going to be hard.

The one thing guaranteed though is once the season starts and we have our squad to work with we have one of the best man manager / leader / tactician about who never fails to get the absolute best out of the team as a group

I partly agree with you but I do feel this requirement for character is as much a Mike Garlick requirement than a Sean Dyche one but Sean being an employee of the club is happy to tow the line regards this.

Spijed wrote:That's been mentioned before, that part of the issue is Dyche being very precise in the type of player he wants, and that in itself is one of the reasons why we often struggle to get all of our targets.

He is apparently very particular about character.

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Now the 3/4 signings he said we had ready I am struggling to think who these may be. Looking at all the signings made by premier league clubs there is probably only Bobby Reid that we would have been in for. No others suit us and we wouldnt have enough info on others. So I come to the conclusion that these signings we have missed out on have gone to Championship which shows how far behind we really are in living in the real world as far as football finances go

I expect he was using a phrase 'gone somewhere else' not as a literal 'has already been signed by'.
For example the Mawson deal, we could have been quite far along, terms agreed, to quote Dyche 'everyone says yes yes yes' but then Fulham step in and pull the carpet out from under us and he's 'gone somewhere else' in our eyes.
This could apply to nearly anyone we've been linked with.

CombatClaret wrote:I expect he was using a phrase 'gone somewhere else' not as a literal 'has already been signed by'.
For example the Mawson deal, we could have been quite far along, terms agreed, to quote Dyche 'everyone says yes yes yes' but then Fulham step in and pull the carpet out from under us and he's 'gone somewhere else' in our eyes.
This could apply to nearly anyone we've been linked with.

Yes you may be right but surely if the same thing keeps happening again and again something is wrong with tbe current business model. Why even target these players when the man in the street can tell you what kind of wages these wages these players are going to be wanting.

Wonder who he’s referring to as we seem to be the only club remotely interested in Dawson, Rodriguez and Clucas at this stage.

Mawson yes, but I can’t think of any other links who have already moved on.

gandhisflipflop wrote:I can't see Dyche putting up with this much longer.

This is my big worry, if he ends up jumping ship to a club where signing players isn't so ridiculously complicated, for whatever reason.

jedi_master wrote:Wonder who he’s referring to as we seem to be the only club remotely interested in Dawson, Rodriguez and Clucas at this stage.

Mawson yes, but I can’t think of any other links who have already moved on.

Only guessing,
but could it be that deals have been agreed with certain players only for their club or agents to stall the deal?

Troubling comments.

No other way of spinning them really.

Its a tough market for everyone, and we're not paupers with an under developed infrastructure these days.

10 days to go before we're all entitled to sit in judgment, but those comments don't remotwly suggest we're on track.

gandhisflipflop wrote:I was talking about our shoddy recruitment team. He has brought this club into the 21st century kicking and screaming and yet we still have complete jokers working behind the scenes.

Heaton, Lowton, Taylor, Cork, Tarkowski, Mee, Gudmondsson, Vokes, Barnes, Wood, Brady, Hendrick, Defour, Westwood, Ward, Lennon, Long, Pope.

Are you saying they were all bad signings? Not even one or two gems among them? Tell me which of those are the failures, and estimate where in the league we would have finished if our recruitment team had done their job.

randomclaret2 wrote:I reckon he'll put up with £3.5 million a year a while longer yet.

Do you really think that is his motive. Money get real .

The 4/1 on relegation is starting to look very tempting..

claretspice wrote:10 days to go before we're all entitled to sit in judgment, but those comments don't remotwly suggest we're on track.

In ten days' time we will have played (hopefully) three competitive fixtures this season; none of them against English clubs. Are you seriously suggesting that will be long enough to "sit in judgement"? And if you are going to sit in judgement, will you take the whole body of work in Sean Dyche's tenure into account, or will those three (or two) matches be enough in isolation to judge him and his recruitment team on?

Reecey1987 wrote:They was his words not mine

Were man, not was.

gandhisflipflop wrote:I can't see Dyche putting up with this much longer.

Really? Why?

Do people not he talks to the board? He would of done at the end of last season. If he doesnt agree with it he should have gone then instead of wasting his time and the clubs time.

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Yes you may be right but surely if the same thing keeps happening again and again something is wrong with tbe current business model. Why even target these players when the man in the street can tell you what kind of wages these wages these players are going to be wanting.

Some people seem to think our recruitment can read minds, when it was suggested Mawson wouldn't want to move North people then cried 'Why even approach in the first place?!!!?!!', well maybe we had to ask first to then find out.

I think people assume players comes with a price/wage stickers on their foreheads but I'm sure a lot of intricate & fluid back room negotiation is the reality.

dsr wrote:In ten days' time we will have played (hopefully) three competitive fixtures this season; none of them against English clubs. Are you seriously suggesting that will be long enough to "sit in judgement"? And if you are going to sit in judgement, will you take the whole body of work in Sean Dyche's tenure into account, or will those three (or two) matches be enough in isolation to judge him and his recruitment team on?

I was referring to our business during the transfer window, which closes in 9 business days. We'll be entitled to judge whether we've had a good window or not once the window closes. Im not sure what relevance our past transfer record is to that, nor our early season form.

Ive been extremely patient this summer and i dont believe in judging the window before it's over. But as ive just said on another thread, right now its hard to be confident we're not in danger of making necessities out of virtues and cocking this up royally. We'll see.