What's peoples problem with new fans? One bloke in Cricketfield tonight quizzing people on why they were sat there and calling them part time supporters. I don't get the hate, people have to start somewhere. Do we want 10,000 loyal fans instead of 16,000 with a mix of 'part time supporters'. Baffles me.

colne-claret wrote:What's peoples problem with new fans? One bloke in Cricketfield tonight quizzing people on why they were sat there and calling them part time supporters. I don't get the hate, people have to start somewhere. Do we want 10,000 loyal fans instead of 16,000 with a mix of 'part time supporters'. Baffles me.

Had it in istanbul. Some woman quizzing how my 9 and 11 year old nephews had managed to get tickets in istanbul

It was a bit uncomfortable to be honest. I sat there with my wife. I normally have a season ticket in Jimmy Mac but when she wants to come on I have to move my ticket so we can sit together so picked Cricketfield tonight as we usually do but ended up a bit higher tonight than usual. Won't be rushing back.

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Had it in istanbul. Some woman quizzing how my 9 and 11 year old nephews had managed to get tickets in istanbul

Bloody hell! You didn't go to Istanbul did you? Why didn't you say so !?

How the **** does he know they are part time fans?

Because he's used to his clique around him. Doesn't like outsiders. Sounds a bit Alan Partridge esque that

What business is it of his? Just tell him to f**k off.

colne-claret wrote:Because he's used to his clique around him. Doesn't like outsiders. Sounds a bit Alan Partridge esque that

A bit of a knob then?

Steve1956 wrote:A bit of a knob then?

Just a bit. He started moaning about all the empty seats at one point...

RingoMcCartney wrote:Bloody hell! You didn't go to Istanbul did you? Why didn't you say so !?

Yes. But not southampton, watford at home or athens

colne-claret wrote:Just a bit. He started moaning about all the empty seats at one point...

It's ok mate he won't be there on Sunday...Plastic!

Hopefully, the guy with the walking stick had given him a good seeing to, hence his police escort.

Folk like that will only be happy when it's them, their dog and the catering lady watching us play in the seventh division on English football. Anything else and they feel jealous that anyone would have the gall to enjoy the only thing that said jealous pr1ck gets out of bed in the morning for. It's a little bit sad and probably an indictment on the modern world but you see it often, people with such an inability to find purpose in their life because they're, invariably, emotional wrecks going through their day on auto-pilot, needing loyalty to a footy team to get them through life. Says more about his relationship with himself than anything else.

By the way, I hope nobody actually went ahead and justified themselves to him?

colne-claret wrote:What's peoples problem with new fans? One bloke in Cricketfield tonight quizzing people on why they were sat there and calling them part time supporters. I don't get the hate, people have to start somewhere. Do we want 10,000 loyal fans instead of 16,000 with a mix of 'part time supporters'. Baffles me.

Because people are *****.

Spiral wrote:Folk like that will only be happy when it's them, their dog and the catering lady watching us play in the seventh division on English football. Anything else and they feel jealous that anyone would have the gall to enjoy the only thing that said jealous pr1ck gets out of bed in the morning for. It's a little bit sad and probably an indictment on the modern world but you see it often, people with such an inability to find purpose in their life because they're, invariably, emotional wrecks going through their day on auto-pilot, needing loyalty to a footy team to get them through life. Says more about his relationship with himself than anything else.

By the way, I hope nobody actually went ahead and justified themselves to him?

Spot on. Same with anything. So many people are bitter and jealous about other people. I dont get it. Saw itbon the thread about rooneys amazing assist. Rather than commend it people just wanted to bicker.

Shame you couldn’t have spoke a bit of Turkish to him. You might have seen his head implode.

How far back can we go with this?
If you didn't go when Hereford walloped us 6-0 in '87, and you were actually born then, can the morons still call you a part-timer?

1,696 were on against Colchester in 86-87. If you were alive then, are alive now, and went to today's match and that Colchester one, then you are a proper fan; if not, you're plastic.

I think that part of it is probably to do with if you're going in the Cricketfield you are expected to make some noise.

Which I would agree with.

dsr wrote:If you were alive then, are alive now, and went to today's match and that Colchester one, then you are a proper fan; if not, you're plastic.

What about if you were alive then, aren't alive now, but still went on today?

(Asking for the Bob Lord stand)

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Had it in istanbul. Some woman quizzing how my 9 and 11 year old nephews had managed to get tickets in istanbul

But if they had a season ticket they could get a ticket, only Aberdeen that needed points.
Pathetic

Spiral wrote:What about if you were alive then, aren't alive now, but still went on today?

(Asking for the Bob Lord stand)

You're still a proper fan, as long as you paid for your seat. People smuggled on in little urns aren't proper fans.

Burnleybabe wrote:But if they had a season ticket they could get a ticket, only Aberdeen that needed points.
Pathetic

It even went to general sale.

I must be a part time fan then.
I cant go on Sunday as I am going to my Daughters Hen Party.
Booked for Sunday as not to miss first game of Season, not knowing then how well we would do.

I went for a pi$$ at the end of 90 minutes and missed 3 seconds of extra time so I'll fess up and out myself as a part-timer.

Only an impure part-timer would attend a Europa League game. A pure, most-loyal devotee wouldn't attend a European match, or any match, in fact, during periods of relative success lest they associate themselves with other such filth, heretics and apostates who weren't on the Orient game. The only way to remain pure, clean, undefiled by part-time infidels is to practice asceticism, to stay at home, to bask in ones own loyalty and devotion. This is the only path to righteousness.

colne-claret wrote:What's peoples problem with new fans? One bloke in Cricketfield tonight quizzing people on why they were sat there and calling them part time supporters. I don't get the hate, people have to start somewhere. Do we want 10,000 loyal fans instead of 16,000 with a mix of 'part time supporters'. Baffles me.

Shouldn't they be applauded for going to a game that wasn't likely to sell out? Part time supporters would give it a swerve, surely?

I was on the Hereford & Colchester games. But I’ve only been on’t Turf once in the last 8 seasons. I suppose I should delete my account on here and never utter UTC ever again?!?

There were loads of new faces all around me in the JHU last night.
I was glad to see them, could you imagine what the crowd would have been without them. They also contributed to a great atmosphere.

4 if us the JHU that normally go in the cricketfield.

How about part time fan mixed with early leaver?

3 of us usually in JML moved into the JMU to take 4yo nephew onto first competitive game (previous games were Duffs testimonial & Hamburg)

He lasted till half time of extra time before he fell asleep so dad took him back to the car and so missed the second half

gawthorpe_view wrote:I went for a pi$$ at the end of 90 minutes and missed 3 seconds of extra time so I'll fess up and out myself as a part-timer.

Catheter bag, mate
#rookie

Get held up at work in Bolton shot home from work said a quick hello to wife (her birthday) and kids, got into town got around to the ground in decent time to find large queue's for the JHU. Got to my seat about a minute late to be moaned at by somebody on the row behind for being late! So if said person posts on here can I just reiterate and as I said to you last night you can **** right off.

Strange how times have changed isn't it. When I lived there I'm sure half the crowd were walk ons. Pay on the gate made it so much easier to make a last minute decision. Lads whose Saturday league games were cancelled. Blokes who got out of work earlier than usual. Those were the real fans because they could have stopped in and watched Grandstand but came down and spent their money

There was a lad outside the Jimmy Mac stand before the game who was stopped by stewards because he rocked up with a bottle of haig club in one hand and a carton of cranberry juice in the other. I'll stick my neck out and say he probably wasn't a regular!

Should have told him to feck off.

I watched us play in every level since 1962 and appreciate all our fans old and new.Why slag off new converts its beyond me?

The person making the noise about part time fans is obviously a bit thick, and can’t quite grasp what a fan base is.

We probably have 40,000 fans who frequent Turf Moor over a season. Some go every game, others a few games or less. It doesn’t mean they aren’t fans.

He also can’t work out that people move seats for cup games either. I certainly wouldn’t allow the empty head to put you off.

To say we average around 1600 for away games then we have about 30k part time fans.

Spiral wrote:What about if you were alive then, aren't alive now, but still went on today?

(Asking for the Bob Lord stand)

Now THAT is funny.

At the end of the 90 mins I needed a pee and I had a very strange gentleman saying I was a City fan in the JHL as I walked out. His wife was obviously embarrassed pleading for him to stop (he must have thought there were a few undercover city fans)
Even if I was leaving, I'd paid my entrance and I'll leave when I want.

How do we define a "fan" of a football club in this TV dominated time?

boatshed bill wrote:How do we define a "fan" of a football club in this TV dominated time?

One who buys a ticket even if there's a stream available?

Woodleyclaret wrote:I watched us play in every level since 1962 and appreciate all our fans old and new.Why slag off new converts its beyond me?

Thoroughly agree. I think I met you for the first time at Molineux in the late 60s.

I'm a full-time fan, but only go to matches part-time as it costs a fortune to travel

colne-claret wrote:What's peoples problem with new fans? One bloke in Cricketfield tonight quizzing people on why they were sat there and calling them part time supporters. I don't get the hate, people have to start somewhere. Do we want 10,000 loyal fans instead of 16,000 with a mix of 'part time supporters'. Baffles me.

Who sits in the CF?

This kind of thing really gets up my nose. People miss games or rarely go for many different reasons, work, family commitments, money or even health. Even if someone only turns up once every 2 years it doesn't make them any less of a fan. Every club gains fans after promotion or a period of success and every club loses support after a relegation. Sh!t happens, these knobs should get over themselves.

The worst kind of fan is the one who goes to every game and wants everyone to know that and criticises anyone who doesn't. It's a kind of snobbery.

I haven't seen a Burnley match for seven years because I live abroad, am ill and in debt. If - because it's more a a case of "if" than "when" - will that make me a "part-time fan"?

Look I'm sorry but they had half and half scarves, what else was I to think.

Football fans can be a strange breed anyway.

They'll complain that part-timers don't have a season ticket, complain those that don't go at all should make the effort for the big games and complain those that only make the effort for the big games don't go more often.
Add to this complaining that football is too expensive whilst saying the club should pay bigger fees and the board should invest more money.

Fact is the part-timers who catch the bug are the ones we want.
Scrap that, I just want anyone to support Burnley, full-time, part-time or every once in a while