Stephen Ward

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:25 pm

Come back soon...

My lord you were missed today...

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:27 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Come back soon...

My lord you were missed today...

And georgie boy.....

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:28 pm

Errr I really don't think he was missed today...

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:31 pm

Wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference today. Taylor was fine.

Indecisive · Post by **Indecisive** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:31 pm

An area I think we will probably need to strengthen.
He’s been fantastic, but I think Ward’s age is starting to catch up with him. It’s fine margins but I feel like he has been slightly off the pace since returning from
Injury last year.

Think this level may also be a step too far for Taylor...although hopefully I’m wrong.

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:31 pm

In his current form he is no miss at all.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:33 pm

Not convinced this is a step too far for Taylor. Seen a lot of criticism about him not pushing higher up the field but I have to put it down to Dyche's instructions rather than him. Nothing really off with his crossing either today - put the ball into good areas but ultimately Wood has no chance when it's him vs about 4 players with nobody else attacking them.

MRG · Post by **MRG** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:34 pm

Silly thread, not missed at all

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:37 pm

Taylor really isn't the issue. Anyone who thinks he is after watching today is very misguided!

colne-claret · Post by **colne-claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:37 pm

Indecisive wrote:An area I think we will probably need to strengthen.
He’s been fantastic, but I think Ward’s age is starting to catch up with him. It’s fine margins but I feel like he has been slightly off the pace since returning from
Injury last year.

Think this level may also be a step too far for Taylor...although hopefully I’m wrong.

Taylor is still young. He is our long term replacement for Ward. He just needs a run of games playing in his natural position. Didn't really put a foot wrong today. Doesn't help that at the moment he has McNeil playing ahead of him who I feel has done tremendously well but maybe is more naive defensively. This might mean Taylor is a bit more reserved offensively.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:39 pm

MRG wrote:Silly thread, not missed at all

Why don’t you start a good thread then we can all agree with you.

Wardy is the best left back at the club and has been the best left back at the club this season and last season and the season before..

Taylor is not good enough defensively and United could have had 7 today.

We need a settled back 5 and it needs to be the best 5 players including Ward and Lowton

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:43 pm

I’ve been hard on Taylor recently but no issues at all today. Not involved in either of the goals we conceded and was much better in the top third.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:45 pm

piston broke wrote:I’ve been hard on Taylor recently but no issues at all today. Not involved in either of the goals we conceded and was much better in the top third.

Hard to say he wasn’t involved in the second one. The ball hit him when his body shape was all wrong. A bit cowardly and not something you’d expect from our defence.

Rightfoot · Post by **Rightfoot** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:50 pm

Taylor covered miles and miles today

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:51 pm

Rightfoot wrote:Taylor covered miles and miles today

Maybe he should take up athletics.

Defending is about being in the right position

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:53 pm

Pathetic. We lost today because we had the likes of Jesse Lingard against us. NOT because of our feckin left back.

MRG · Post by **MRG** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:17 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Why don’t you start a good thread then we can all agree with you.

Wardy is the best left back at the club and has been the best left back at the club this season and last season and the season before..

Taylor is not good enough defensively and United could have had 7 today.

We need a settled back 5 and it needs to be the best 5 players including Ward and Lowton

You are showing yourself up here!! Ward would of offered nothing more that what Taylor did today. Missing award was the least of our problems.

Get yourself off to bed, drink a pint of water before you do, it will help with the hangover in the morning

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:32 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Why don’t you start a good thread then we can all agree with you.

Wardy is the best left back at the club and has been the best left back at the club this season and last season and the season before..

Taylor is not good enough defensively and United could have had 7 today.

We need a settled back 5 and it needs to be the best 5 players including Ward and Lowton

Obviously trolling.

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:38 pm

Is class, just needs a long rest and not to be over played

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:39 pm

Get a grip. Ward would have made absolutely ZERO difference to the performance and scoreline today.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:56 pm

The problem with all these comparisons is no one takes into account the quality of the opposition.
Ben Mee for example, played just as well today as he did last season. The difference was Lukaku was on fire, more like the player of the world cup. Does that make Mee bad, or just Lukaku good.
Taylor played fine today, against a Utd side that was far better than the one that never turned up at the Amex. Ward is a great player, but we need to persist with Taylor. His link up play down the left is getting better, and will only improve the more he and McNeil play together.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:59 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Maybe he should take up athletics.

Defending is about being in the right position

Which he was, including covering for Ben Mee several times in the second half. Our left side wasn’t an issue at all today with Taylor and McNeil - both played very well.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:51 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Which he was, including covering for Ben Mee several times in the second half. Our left side wasn’t an issue at all today with Taylor and McNeil - both played very well.

The whole defence was all over the place which is why we needed the stability of our best defenders on the pitch. Unfortunately, only 2 were.

mickleoverclaret · Post by **mickleoverclaret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:57 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:The problem with all these comparisons is no one takes into account the quality of the opposition.
Ben Mee for example, played just as well today as he did last season. The difference was Lukaku was on fire, more like the player of the world cup. Does that make Mee bad, or just Lukaku good.
Taylor played fine today, against a Utd side that was far better than the one that never turned up at the Amex. Ward is a great player, but we need to persist with Taylor. His link up play down the left is getting better, and will only improve the more he and McNeil play together.

Do you seriously think Mee played as well today as he did last season?

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:03 am

mickleoverclaret wrote:Do you seriously think Mee played as well today as he did last season?

Yeah I do.
If Lukaku had played like that against him last season, he would have looked just as bad, or are you saying Lukaku only looked good because Mee was ****. Ben was slow last season, he was slow today. So what's the difference.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:04 am

mickleoverclaret wrote:Do you seriously think Mee played as well today as he did last season?

A shadow of last season today.. But that Lukaku is a bit of a handful especially today...and to the thread title wards not as sharp as last season but it's early doors yet.

Claretforever · Post by **Claretforever** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:23 pm

Taylor did okay yesterday, but I do wish he’d whip a ball into the box a bit earlier. Always needs a couple of touches to steady himself, which then gives the opposition time to set themselves.

Ward has been off the pace this season so far. A few of our players have.

Denno97 · Post by **Denno97** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:29 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:The whole defence was all over the place which is why we needed the stability of our best defenders on the pitch. Unfortunately, only 2 were.

Tarkowski and Taylor

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:41 pm

Lawton might be better at attacking than Bardsley but that isn’t the only consideration.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:23 pm

Denno97 wrote:Tarkowski and Taylor

Funny aren’t you

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:51 pm

The weakness today was our lack of pace but we aren't the first side in history that has been bullied by Lakaku. Luke Shaw is probably as quick as any player in our side., Lennon apart.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:54 pm

Our biggest weakness today was the lack of any physical presence in our midfield. We were completely bossed and Bullied.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:55 pm

Our weakness was playing a side worth 920 million quid.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:34 pm

All true.
Fellaini, Matic and Pogba. All massive, all fast, all long legged, and Lukaku playing as he did for Belgium in the world cup, rather than the lazy bugger who played at OT last season.
Plus after all the criticism from last week they came out like s dog that had been poked with a stick.

I never thought we'd get a result, I just wanted a good performance. There was lots to be happy with on Sunday despite the defeat.

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