Liverpool have a specialist throw in coach. With them having 54 throw-ins in one game is it an area that is overlooked by most teams? I think it could be a useful addition , after all any advantage is surely a good one.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45405476

A striking coach would be preferable at the moment.

A throw the towel in coach?

I was thinking this the other day.

Our attacking throw-ins tend to be pretty poor. We're normally playing with a couple of big men though and a long throw could easily result in something spilling loose in the box.

A throw-in is just another skill, there may be some genetic advantages (height being the main one I'd imagine) but I suspect if you spent an hour a day studying and practising throw-ins like players do for free-kicks, etc it wouldn't take too long to add some extra distance to them.

We definitely should - A complete no brainer

A throw in is just another set-piece,so we should definitely eke out any advantages we can,with our style of play we aren't creating much in open play so anything we can do to enhance our scoring chances should be maximised.

We had a throw one in coach called Stan.

tiger76 wrote:A throw in is just another set-piece,so we should definitely eke out any advantages we can,with our style of play we aren't creating much in open play so anything we can do to enhance our scoring chances should be maximised.

Completely different level but my nephews youth team have a lad at u14s who can get the ball in the box from a throw in from a decent distance so they have a pretty similar routine to corners from throw ins. It’s quite effective as it keeps the ball in the danger area and they have a couple of lads sat outside the box ready to get it back in there.

It’s the little things that add an advantage to maximise what you have in your arsenal and should always be utilised.

I posted on this a while back, just tried to find it but then realised it may even have been on the old board! For many years now a throw in is not seen as as an advantage for us , players see it as a break to get back in their shape as such there is zero movement , a throw in coach should be able to get the team into an attacking formation to an extent that the opposition cannot gain control over the ball , for many years it's been throw and hope after a 30 second delay waiting for someone to move

When I coached schoolboy football teams ( U15, U16, 3rd XI) I would check early in the season if we had anyone who could throw the ball a long way.

Total football it ain’t but if you have a lad who can easily throw it into the penalty area and a) find someone to nod it on or b) make it bounce in there, then it is always worth a few goals a season at that level.

There are skills involved with it, particularly having your forward players primed to take advantage of the second ball.

BFC should also have a few little moves planned around the shorter throw... it is mainly about ‘restarting the match’ but we should always try and retain possession if possible, and at the least throw it down the line, to try and get their defenders running towards their own goal.

** Liverpool ( Steve Mcmanaman) scored a beauty from a throw-in, some years back, in a move that was straight from the training ground.

I don’t think it’s about the distance of the throw as much of the accuracy. It’s easy to control a throw in when you receive it at a certain height yet our throw in takers just seem to aimlessly launch it at the receiver making their life much harder.

When we win a throw in we tend to set up in a defensive position and work the line hoping to gain territory. It’s compleyely different than the top teams who will invariably always retain possession and build another attack.

I have often felt that the throw-in is actually a disadvantage the team in possession and feel that a 'kick-in' would be more appropriate.

For the towels off the pitch from our fans.

Just get Tripps back, he knew what to do with a throw-in.
Since he left we've been clueless when we get one.

I don't understand why it's not a bigger part of the game, why more coaches don't seem to value it. You'd think your more pragmatic coaches would be allover it and there would be more than one or two specialists knocking about.

We might as well have a 'kick -off' coach as well,then. From the kick-off the ball invariably lands at the feet of James Tarkowski who then goes for a long punt towards their full back. Either the opposition gain possession straightaway or at worst they get the ubiquitous throw-in. Either way we don't have the ball anymore.

Silkyskills1 wrote:We might as well have a 'kick -off' coach as well,then. From the kick-off the ball invariably lands at the feet of James Tarkowski who then goes for a long punt towards their full back. Either the opposition gain possession straightaway or at worst they get the ubiquitous throw-in. Either way we don't have the ball anymore.

A lot of teams have the same kick-off. Even the bigger teams. I think Man Utd started the game that ways against us on Sunday, although I may be wrong. It’s a quick way to get into the opponents third.

The recruitment team have been working on it for 5 years so far no one has got an interview.

A throw in is a potential attack for the opposition too. We're not brilliant at maintaing possession from them, and against good sides that can leave you out of position. Clever move from klopp, it's all fine margins and even if it only wins you a couple of points it would be worth it.

Yes - Dean Marney could have taught a few how to show for a throw in.
We also need a when to shoot and not cross coach
A when to not to take a touch coach
A when to take a touch coach
And strangely I didn’t think it’d be the case but a when to step up rather than chasing a player 20 yards before the balls played and therefore playing him onside and being isolated 1 on 1 20 yards deeper than the rest of your back 4 coach
A line up coach
A substitution coach
Ok I’ll stop now
Boring myself too

How about a take an opponent down to prevent a dangerous counter attack coach? There’s only a few good ones about though.

We should consider having a lots of ball boys and generally get the ball back into play in our possession as quickly as possible (unless we are running the clock down). We often spend ages trying to make a throw and often lose possession. If we were more generally focused on a quick throw in, aided by ball boys (or girls) I think we'd lose possession less and maybe catch our opposition out occasionally.

I agree our throw ins are pretty useless but don't think it takes a specialist coach to fix it.

If you look at what teams like Barcelona do with throw ins the objective is to keep possession so whoever is nearest the throw in will quickly take this and it usually goes back or sideways....this is why you see the likes of Messi taking throw ins because they want to do it quickly before the other team get in possession.

What Burnley tend to do is the old schoolboy team routine....wait for one of the full backs to get the ball (giving the other team plenty of time to get behind the ball) and throw it down the line trying to get a flick on. All the statistics show that when teams try this tactic they lose the ball most of the time....because even if you win the flick on invariably it goes to one of their players.

I only know this because I saw a feature on it on sky a couple of years ago and since then noticed how rarely we keep the ball from throw ins. One of the teams that they said use the Barca technique a lot is Liverpool. It looked strange watching them trying the long throw into the box against Leicester because they do not really have the tall players in the box but guess at the end of a game you are trying to draw or win this can be a useful tactic if bringing up their big centre backs and Alexander Arnold look like he could launch it a fair distance....he`s no Dave Chandler though is he ?!! (was that his name the lad who played for Stockport ?)

of all the things we don't spend money on, this would be the silliest

We will turn into Stoke with a Rory Delap if we’re not careful...

In all seriousness, it’s a valid point and is an area of the game that I feel is under exploited in a tactical sense.

Rileybobs wrote:A lot of teams have the same kick-off. Even the bigger teams. I think Man Utd started the game that ways against us on Sunday, although I may be wrong. It’s a quick way to get into the opponents third.

They did but they kept possession and ended up getting a cross into our penalty box which Hart had to smother.

Rick_Muller wrote:We will turn into Stoke with a Rory Delap if we’re not careful...

In all seriousness, it’s a valid point and is an area of the game that I feel is under exploited in a tactical sense.

I remember when we moved the advertising boards up to the sidelines to stop him having a run up and being able to launch one in.

He just bent his run and threw it in and they scored from it

our throw ins have been poor for a long time. Definitely an area that we can improve on

ranjexel wrote:our throw ins have been poor for a long time. Definitely an area that we can improve on

£20k plus per week and they can't take a decent throw in? Shocking, perhaps they need to try a bit harder?

We used to have an outstanding throw in coach within our youth team set up but Howe got rid of him and we are still trying to recover from it 6 years on

Never mind throw ins what about free kicks! Not just us but teams in general have a lack of invention when it comes to these like there is a law that says you have to shoot or cross it straight from the dead ball.

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Never mind throw ins what about free kicks! Not just us but teams in general have a lack of invention when it comes to these like there is a law that says you have to shoot or cross it straight from the dead ball.

Always suggests that not too much attention is given to them in training during the week. In years long ago, especially the 60's and part of the 70's too, we were renowned for inventive ideas from free kicks. So many ideas and guile around the opposition penalty area, one of their most successful ones being the classic routine v Man City in the Charity Shield and very soon after that against the same opposition at Turf Moor and against Spurs at home. Wonderfully innovative,bright and entertaining. Of course they didn't all work but you could see and appreciate the time that had been put into the routine on the training field.

Silkyskills1 wrote:Always suggests that not too much attention is given to them in training during the week. In years long ago, especially the 60's and part of the 70's too, we were renowned for inventive ideas from free kicks. So many ideas and guile around the opposition penalty area, one of their most successful ones being the classic routine v Man City in the Charity Shield and very soon after that against the same opposition at Turf Moor and against Spurs at home. Wonderfully innovative,bright and entertaining. Of course they didn't all work but you could see and appreciate the time that had been put into the routine on the training field.

Think we can thank Jimmy Adamson for that

Rick_Muller wrote:We will turn into Stoke with a Rory Delap if we’re not careful...

In all seriousness, it’s a valid point and is an area of the game that I feel is under exploited in a tactical sense.

Ah! Rory Delap,teams whinged about this tactic,but the reason they hated it was because many defences couldn't deal with Stoke's physicality,i remember Arsenal and Chelsea often got done from long throws.

We could just tell players to make themselves available for the ball for when it gets thrown back in play, we must take the longest time in the Premier League to take a throw in.

have said for years our throw in's are rubbish, never thought of a coach for that but always believed someone should be trying to help how throw ins should be taken from different positions, also believe a specialist coach for sprinting should be part of the back room staff, both probably on part time basis.

TVC15 wrote:I agree our throw ins are pretty useless but don't think it takes a specialist coach to fix it.

If you look at what teams like Barcelona do with throw ins the objective is to keep possession so whoever is nearest the throw in will quickly take this and it usually goes back or sideways....this is why you see the likes of Messi taking throw ins because they want to do it quickly before the other team get in possession.

What Burnley tend to do is the old schoolboy team routine....wait for one of the full backs to get the ball (giving the other team plenty of time to get behind the ball) and throw it down the line trying to get a flick on. All the statistics show that when teams try this tactic they lose the ball most of the time....because even if you win the flick on invariably it goes to one of their players.

I only know this because I saw a feature on it on sky a couple of years ago and since then noticed how rarely we keep the ball from throw ins. One of the teams that they said use the Barca technique a lot is Liverpool. It looked strange watching them trying the long throw into the box against Leicester because they do not really have the tall players in the box but guess at the end of a game you are trying to draw or win this can be a useful tactic if bringing up their big centre backs and Alexander Arnold look like he could launch it a fair distance....he`s no Dave Chandler though is he ?!! (was that his name the lad who played for Stockport ?)

Dave Challinor.