just said on the telebox

"we need to take a long hard look at ourselves, let's not kid ourselves we were smashed today and we've no excuse because we've had no midweek game, we look miles away from winning a game"

Let's hope the manager is as honest

Can't argue with that

Vegas Claret wrote:just said on the telebox

"we need to take a long hard look at ourselves, let's not kid ourselves we were smashed today and we've no excuse because we've had no midweek game, we look miles away from winning a game"

Let's hope the manager is as honest

Fair play, love the honesty, not sure Dyche will like how outspoken he is

Kind of refreshing to hear (read) that. We know why Wolves were so much better, but even so, we could have made more of an effort. Lennon: Either take on your man or don't play.

He was top class again today. and when the goal went in the only who looked up for it. went right up to half way and tried to gee them all up.

If it wasn't for Hart today it would have been very Embarrassing. A 5-0 thumping or worse.

Burnley1989 wrote:Fair play, love the honesty, not sure Dyche will like how outspoken he is

Not sure if what he said was particularly outspoken. He simply said what we all saw - it was an honest assessment and nothing controversial. Good on him and especially after he was one of only a few who came out of that game with any credit.

He’s absolutely correct, and he came out of today with credit unlike one other player.

Fair play to him. He was outstanding again today

DCWat wrote:Not sure if what he said was particularly outspoken. He simply said what we all saw - it was an honest assessment and nothing controversial. Good on him and especially after he was one of only a few who came out of that game with any credit.

Yeah, I’m fine with it but I get the impression from Dyche that he would prefer players not to comment

Joe Hart must be wondering what he's done signing for Burnley. What's going on? We had a defence to be proud of last season. We were all over the show today.

Healeywoodclaret wrote:Joe Hart must be wondering what he's done signing for Burnley. What's going on? We had a defence to be proud of last season. We were all over the show today.

On the contrary, this team is making him look like a star player

The reason the defence looks so bad is because we can’t keep possession in midfield and carry no attacking threat up front, so we just invite constant pressure.

Burnley1989 wrote:Yeah, I’m fine with it but I get the impression from Dyche that he would prefer players not to comment

I genuinely don’t have that impression of Dyche. I think he wants strong characters such as Hart, who aren’t afraid to speak their mind. Providing it’s done in the right way of course.

Only positive from today

Will be interesting what Dyche has to say about today. Can no longer blame it on having to play Thursday night.

Incredible performance today and showed what a class keeper he still is.

Now if only there was someone equally as gifted at the other end.

Agree with JH . However, it is difficult to see what a “good long look at ourselves”will achieve if the players , especially in midfield ( but not exclusively)are playing up to their ability level. For example , our accuracy of passing and pace on and off the ball, looked to be in a different league from that of Wolves. Does this mean that our players are unable to think and act any faster ?
SD has always demanded that players give their all. If they are doing , no amount of looking will make individuals any better.
If this is the case, then it’s down to tactics, system , team selection and perhaps above all recruitment and those factors lie principally with the coaching team and the board.

Vegas Claret wrote:just said on the telebox

"we need to take a long hard look at ourselves, let's not kid ourselves we were smashed today and we've no excuse because we've had no midweek game, we look miles away from winning a game"

Let's hope the manager is as honest

following question asked him about the formation, and he straight-batted that saying not his position to comment, then gave Dyche, fellow players and management a vote of confidence

Quite right Joe

Burtonwoodclaret wrote:Agree with JH . However, it is difficult to see what a “good long look at ourselves”will achieve if the players , especially in midfield ( but not exclusively)are playing up to their ability level. For example , our accuracy of passing and pace on and off the ball, looked to be in a different league from that of Wolves. Does this mean that our players are unable to think and act any faster ?
SD has always demanded that players give their all. If they are doing , no amount of looking will make individuals any better.
If this is the case, then it’s down to tactics, system , team selection and perhaps above all recruitment and those factors lie principally with the coaching team and the board.

They arnt giving their all. The closing down was nonexistent. That's not a management choice, although Dyche needs to be questioned.

The clue as to how much better Hart is than the rest of them is his high standards. Extremely impressive. I am sure he would call himself out just as much as the team in general.

In short, form aside, he is a winner.

How has Hart suddenly become a spokesman for the club after a handful of games, worrying for me and perhaps a sign the culture of the club is shifting.

Papabendi wrote:How has Hart suddenly become a spokesman for the club after a handful of games, worrying for me and perhaps a sign the culture of the club is shifting.

Hart has always given interviews after games at every club he has played for. This was an interview being broadcast all around the World so I would expect the majority of arm chair footy fans would rather hear from Hart than Bardsley

Papabendi wrote:How has Hart suddenly become a spokesman for the club after a handful of games, worrying for me and perhaps a sign the culture of the club is shifting.

Hart is one of the world’s top goalkeepers. He rightly is given that prominent status. No detriment to the rest of our lads. They need the cojones to recognise class and emulate the things Hart does.

(Yes, I know he has had a rocky spell, but was Golden Gloves 4 times in the hardest league in the world)

He isn't wrong.

We could have played until next Saturday and not scored.

We looked slow and ponderous, with no real idea or game plan on how to cause Wolves any problems.

I'm greatful it was only 1, as if it was 4 or 5, we couldn't have complained.

Wolves created more in 90 minutes, than we have all season in the league.

This said it all to me. When they scored all 10 players body language was dreadful. Heads down. Shoulders slumped. He went out all the way to half way and acted like a leader. And told them all to get it together.

As per every thread after every game this season. Hart is the very least of our problems.

Not sure Joe Hart has a contract to be interviewed after every game

Papabendi wrote:Not sure Joe Hart has a contract to be interviewed after every game

At least he is standing up to be counted.

Papabendi wrote:Not sure Joe Hart has a contract to be interviewed after every game

What a strange comment, do you not want to hear what our players have to say?

cricketfieldclarets wrote:This said it all to me. When they scored all 10 players body language was dreadful. Heads down. Shoulders slumped. He went out all the way to half way and acted like a leader. And told them all to get it together.

As per every thread after every game this season. Hart is the very least of our problems.

That's a positive, I'm glad we signed Hart, you can tell he's bought in to what we are.

How pathetic do we look on that photo? All stood lined up ready to kick off whilst Wolves celebrate in the background.

We were awful yesterday. As David Moyes said, what made us successful just isn’t there at the moment. We aren’t playing in the manner we have done for 4-5 years.

Very worrying.

Joe hit the nail on the head.

Once again we were poor with a flattering score line. Wolves should have had 6. Most other Premier league sides would have exploited Wolves poor finishing and come away with at least a point, we created nothing.

Looks grim at the moment and the lack of investment in the squad is now coming home to roost

Did anybody spot him giving his shorts away to a young Wolves fan. Thought it was a bit odd........ Surely the kid would have preferred his gloves or shinpads / water bottle or even his towel

Another top class show. Brilliant signing.

His ability was never in doubt at all. Not sure anybody (who knows much about football) ever doubted him. A top keeper. He always was, he just wasn't always given the confidence from his manager. That was basically what was missing.

A truly top signing.

He's won me over.

Joe was once again outstanding and deservedly mom

He’s made a practically flawless start to his Burnley career. Kudos to him.

Outstanding today.

His performances have been of a really great standard so far, single-handedly keeping us in games and ensuring a few scorelines have flattered us.

The worry with Hart in current form is keeping hold of him in the January transfer window. Let's not forget this lad was an England regular not long back and a PL title winner. Held in very high regard at City apart from Pep, they are naming a training pitch after him.

He's taken a pay cut to come to Burnley albeit from a massive golden handshake from City. I still give my head a wobble when I see Hart playing for the Clarets.

Playing very well in a fairly poor team. He's got serous competition but feels wanted and is showing his quality. Despite the daft wages nowadays that can make you question some players this is one player who you can tell it hurts when we lose.

Possibly should be made captain. Mee won't do at all.

kaptin1 wrote:The reason the defence looks so bad is because we can’t keep possession in midfield and carry no attacking threat up front, so we just invite constant pressure.

You have a point but the defence against Watford and others has also been bad. Woeful.

I used to think he was an arse (probably due to bias fie Heaton etc) but decided to get behind him once he signed...

Can easily say my opinion has completely reversed. He is as passionate as they come and has easily been our best player so far this season.

Stayingup wrote:Possibly should be made captain. Mee won't do at all.

I love Ben but I must admit this had entered my head

Our best player by an absolute mile, knew he was a cracking signing, I remember me and CricketfieldClaret were the only ones constantly backing Hart while the rest of the messageboard slagged him off at every opportunity whenever anybody in the media mentioned Hart for a spot in the England WC squad. Now look at him and all the fickle fans......

KRBFC wrote:Our best player by an absolute mile, knew he was a cracking signing, I remember me and CricketfieldClaret were the only ones constantly backing Hart while the rest of the messageboard slagged him off at every opportunity whenever anybody in the media mentioned Hart for a spot in the England WC squad. Now look at him and all the fickle fans......

Your memory is turd!

There were quite a number of people on here who thought he would be a good signing! He has in-fact turned out to be an excellent signing so far. Highly impressed.

KRBFC wrote:Our best player by an absolute mile, knew he was a cracking signing, I remember me and CricketfieldClaret were the only ones constantly backing Hart while the rest of the messageboard slagged him off at every opportunity whenever anybody in the media mentioned Hart for a spot in the England WC squad. Now look at him and all the fickle fans......

Plenty of people slagging Hart off be he came here but plenty of people defended him also.