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MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:47 am
by ŽižkovClaret
Call me old fashioned, but i remember when people used to get paid by a business, or volunteer for a charity. Asking for volunteers for a multi million pound business just seems a little on the cheeky side tbh

What next, volunteer programme sellers? Where does it end?

Its not like the savings are going on the playing squad is it?

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/new ... day-heros/

I wonder which other matchday staff are doing it on a voluntary basis? Daz Bentley won't be im sure

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:50 am
by dushanbe
Thats actually amazing. I was reading it waiting for the bit where it said what the reward was, like you get to watch the match for nowt!

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:51 am
by tim_noone
I wonder if we operate zero hours contracts also?

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:52 am
by ClaretDiver
What an absolute p*ss take......for the first time in a long time I am ashamed of where this club is going....

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:55 am
by BabylonClaret
tim_noone wrote:I wonder if we operate zero hours contracts also?
Of course we will. All busiensses like ours depend on zero hours although we may guarantee a number of hours.

Used in thr right way they allow flexibility and can work for employees too.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:56 am
by bfccrazy
Wow :lol:

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:56 am
by taio
Yeah, absolute joke.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:57 am
by bfccrazy
BabylonClaret wrote:Of course we will. All busiensses like ours depend on zero hours although we may guarantee a number of hours.

Used in thr right way they allow flexibility and can work for employees too.
What about 0 hours and 0 pay?

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:59 am
by randomclaret2
Id be sorting out out the non existant disabled facilities first

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:05 am
by HiroshimaClaret
Pathetic.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:07 am
by bfccrazy
I wonder if I can pay for my next season ticket with 37 hours of excitement and 12 hours of the satisfaction I’ll accumulate?

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:08 am
by tim_noone
BabylonClaret wrote:Of course we will. All busiensses like ours depend on zero hours although we may guarantee a number of hours.

Used in thr right way they allow flexibility and can work for employees too.
Is that you Mr Garlick? Thanks for the prompt reply. :D

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:19 am
by Dark Cloud
So the first criteria for people who volunteer is to not be at all interested in football or BFC because they'll see little or nothing of the match! BUT, they need to have a passion for standing around in the rain and the cold! That's just weird.
Anyway this time next season we'll be in the Championship with gates of around 11,000 so they'll not be needed anyway!!

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:28 am
by wilks_bfc
I'm a little puzzled as to why they "won’t get to see much, if any, of the match"
Surely once the game has started, they will be nobody for them to be a "Match Day Hero" for

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:45 am
by houseboy
BabylonClaret wrote:Of course we will. All busiensses like ours depend on zero hours although we may guarantee a number of hours.

Used in thr right way they allow flexibility and can work for employees too.
They only work for the employee if you're a single parent with child care problems or have two jobs. They are a disgrace and give people no job security whatsoever. They are, in fact, just a way of getting around employment laws. Disgracefull.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:49 am
by houseboy
When did Burnley FC become such a penny pinching bunch of scoundrels? We aren't a bloody charity, we are a very wealthy PL football club, how can they even have the gall to ask people to work for nothing? If we were back in League Two and potless I ciould understand it but this is unacceptable.

An utter, utter shame on Burnley FC.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:03 pm
by The Enclosure
Dont worry guys it is an early April Fools Joke.....what the hecks the matter with Burnley FC they really have lost the plot recently.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:16 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
Not sure why the title needed to be edited tbh

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:16 pm
by South West Claret.
Another example (if anymore were needed) that Employers are ''at it'' yet again :roll:


...Just ignore these "try on'' nonsense ads.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:17 pm
by Dark Cloud
Are there really that many lost people simply wandering around The Turf on match days? I never seem to see any. They're probably just pi** heads form The Boot ffs.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:20 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
Dark Cloud wrote:Are there really that many lost people simply wandering around The Turf on match days? I never seem to see any. They're probably just pi** heads form The Boot ffs.
I can only think its for tourists/groundhoppers and away fans

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:22 pm
by Dark Cloud
ZizkovClaret wrote:I can only think its for tourists/groundhoppers and away fans
Boll***s to them! :shock:

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:23 pm
by gandhisflipflop
tim_noone wrote:I wonder if we operate zero hours contracts also?

We do. My girlfriend used to work there. I found it disgusting.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:24 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
Dark Cloud wrote:Boll***s to them! :shock:
Well aye, if you can't suss out which way it is to the ground on a matchday, then you really need your eyes checking

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:27 pm
by Wile E Coyote
They should use them to console home fans at the final whistle, nice pot of tea, and an friendly arm round the shoulder..."There, there, there, it'll all be ok soon "

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:27 pm
by gandhisflipflop
BabylonClaret wrote:Of course we will. All busiensses like ours depend on zero hours although we may guarantee a number of hours.

Used in thr right way they allow flexibility and can work for employees too.

They are not used in the right way and the uncertainty of hours from one week to the next gives employers a massive edge in terms of they can use the potential lack of hours the following week in order to play ball with them. It's happened to me many times.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:28 pm
by Dark Cloud
ZizkovClaret wrote:Well aye, if you can't suss out which way it is to the ground on a matchday, then you really need your eyes checking
And if you've no idea where your seat is you're clearly an away fan in the wrong end (a la the Utd game) and will get a well deserved kicking. (But not from the Matchday Hero)

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:06 pm
by Whitgord
The amount it would cost to pay these people is an absolute pittance in the scheme of things. Can’t believe this has been sanctioned. Shameful.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:08 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
Whitgord wrote:The amount it would cost to pay these people is an absolute pittance in the scheme of things. Can’t believe this has been sanctioned. Shameful.
Strangely, mods seem not to agree as they keep editing my thread title to a more neutral stance?

Re: MatchDay Heroes - Are the powers that be on a different planet?

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:09 pm
by Reckoner
There is no dressing this up as anything but very poor. Even if they paid minimum wage its not going amount to much for a few hours every home game.

Re: MatchDay Heroes - Are the powers that be on a different planet?

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:10 pm
by bfccrazy
Reckoner wrote:There is no dressing this up as anything but very poor. Even if they paid minimum wage its not going amount to much for a few hours every home game.
They could just get the builders of the disabled section to do it - gives them something to do and they’re used to working outside.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:18 pm
by Den_Perry
Shameful!

Suggest we all apply now with comedy fake personas to waste their time.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:19 pm
by claptrappers_union
As much as I think its a nice incentive, from an employment point of view, theres no real benefit other than some free training that could go on a CV I suppose. Looks a bit of a **** take to me. We are a Premier League outfit. I cant see how this is a need for 30, I think you only 'need' 7 per match day from 3 hours before KO.

2 on Harry Potts Way welcoming visiting supporters
1 by ticket collection window
1 by the shop
1 behind Jimmy Mac
1 behind James Hargreaves
1 at the Cricket Club

£20 each, a match ticket, programme, priority away ticket booking and staff discount in the club shop.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:21 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
Part of me suspects if they get paid, the club might be liable if an away fan lamps them?

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:31 pm
by tim_noone
I've always held the belief that if any employer could get you to work for nowt they would...and I Mean any!

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:35 pm
by brigante
MatchDay Mugs

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:36 pm
by South West Claret.
tim_noone wrote:I've always held the belief that if any employer could get you to work for nowt they would...and I Mean any!
Correct.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:18 pm
by tim_noone
brigante wrote:MatchDay Mugs
How much? And are they in the club shop..

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:46 pm
by yorkyclaret
I'm looking for a gardening hero, no pay, work outside in all conditions BUT if it gets below freezing you will get a free brew (much better deal)

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:53 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
I asked the mods why there was editing done to remove any negativity in the title of the thread. closed without response. Make of that what you will

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:05 pm
by deanothedino
claptrappers_union wrote:As much as I think its a nice incentive, from an employment point of view, theres no real benefit other than some free training that could go on a CV I suppose. Looks a bit of a **** take to me. We are a Premier League outfit. I cant see how this is a need for 30, I think you only 'need' 7 per match day from 3 hours before KO.

2 on Harry Potts Way welcoming visiting supporters
1 by ticket collection window
1 by the shop
1 behind Jimmy Mac
1 behind James Hargreaves
1 at the Cricket Club

£20 each, a match ticket, programme, priority away ticket booking and staff discount in the club shop.
They don’t even manage to give all of their paid staff, staff discount in the shop, nevermind anyone they have giving directions.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:09 pm
by ClaretTony
ZizkovClaret wrote:I asked the mods why there was editing done to remove any negativity in the title of the thread. closed without response. Make of that what you will
Changed because the original headline was unacceptable so look at yourself rather than others.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:10 pm
by ClaretTony
I've asked supporter reps from other clubs about this today. They are absolutely astonished.

Some clubs have volunteers like this, something I'd have no problem with, but they all seem to get to see the game. This, I think, is a complete nonsense.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:11 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
See, that wasn't so hard now was it? If people use the reporting feature to contact mods, they should get a response. I'd call that showing respect to posters. You can't expect it and not give it.

I maintain that it is a p**s take, and i would not be surprised if it is quietly binned once more senior staff are back from days off

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:12 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
ClaretTony wrote:I've asked supporter reps from other clubs about this today. They are absolutely astonished.

Some clubs have volunteers like this, something I'd have no problem with, but they all seem to get to see the game. This, I think, is a complete nonsense.
So we agree, that is good to see :)

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:12 pm
by deanothedino
ClaretTony wrote:I've asked supporter reps from other clubs about this today. They are absolutely astonished.

Some clubs have volunteers like this, something I'd have no problem with, but they all seem to get to see the game. This, I think, is a complete nonsense.
As they’ve posted it with a ‘job’ description I’m not sure how they can even legally not give some compensation

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:14 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
deanothedino wrote:As they’ve posted it with a ‘job’ description I’m not sure how they can even legally not give some compensation
I mean, i don't like to assume that sometimes people on the non-footballing side don't know their arse from their elbow, but sometimes they really do make it difficult not to work on that basis.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:14 pm
by ClaretTony
deanothedino wrote:As they’ve posted it with a ‘job’ description I’m not sure how they can even legally not give some compensation
Something I wouldn't have known, but I've been told today that it is illegal to post a JOB description for voluntary work.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:23 pm
by deanothedino
ClaretTony wrote:Something I wouldn't have known, but I've been told today that it is illegal to post a JOB description for voluntary work.
I certainly don’t think the club would have a leg to stand on if one of their ‘volunteers’ pursued payment through the courts. You cannot make voluntary work look like a job.

Re: MatchDay Heroes

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:33 pm
by ClaretTony
deanothedino wrote:I certainly don’t think the club would have a leg to stand on if one of their ‘volunteers’ pursued payment through the courts. You cannot make voluntary work look like a job.
It's something I don't know anything about but the person who told me this afternoon was very confident the club had broken the law in advertising in such a way.