Received one of these today for going 47 in a 40 zone in Leeds, yes, yes, I'm a **** an arse hole, I deserve it, karma etc.

Question : What will the fine be? And the points? If any? There isn't any information about this, I expected speeding tickets to be issued with a fine to be paid in X amount of days.

Cheers!

You'll get the option of going on a speed awareness course. £80 rather than £100 for the offence.
And no points on your licence.

(If I remember right)

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ClaretAndJew wrote:Received one of these today for going 47 in a 40 zone in Leeds, yes, yes, I'm a **** an arse hole, I deserve it, karma etc.

Question : What will the fine be? And the points? If any? There isn't any information about this, I expected speeding tickets to be issued with a fine to be paid in X amount of days.

Cheers!

You don't have much luck with cars and driving!

tim_noone wrote:You don't have much luck with cars and driving!

I'm considering a bicycle.

ClaretAndJew wrote:I'm considering a bicycle.

That was going to be my suggestion.. But there's some right inconsiderate d!cks on the roads

At 47 in 40 you may well not get the awareness course option - that's often set at +10% +2 (46 in your case).

I think it differs from force to force.

I was caught at 37 in a 30 and got the course.
I think the letter said up to 42 was the awareness course.

I think it’ll be 3 points plus a find of approx £100.

It's about 10 years since I last got caught for speeding, but can't you go online and check if the Speed Awareness option is available? Or if there's a checkbox/option on your notice, select it and post it back.

North Yorkshire police rules will be similar to other police forces I’d imagine. I still have this from when I was caught.

I actually enjoyed the speed awareness course, though I wouldn’t like to sit through it again (you can if there’s a 3 year gap between offences). Serious educational elements of course but the gents who ran it were good fun, though I’ve heard those who run the Lancashire one are not as nice? You basically go online and pick your date and time, and that can be a Saturday or Sunday of there is availability. It took 3.1/2 hours.

When I did the SA you actually went out in the car too. Something, I thought was much more useful than sat in a classroom. Being out on the road, you would do things by habit, which they'd tell you about. Listening to somebody infront of a whiteboard didn't do anything for me.

In fact, afterwards I came out with, "Christ, next time, I think I'll just take the points", to everyone's amusement.

thatdberight wrote:At 47 in 40 you may well not get the awareness course option - that's often set at +10% +2 (46 in your case).

That's the guideline for prosecution. Below 46 and they won't normally do anything.

Some forces don’t use the course, just the fine and points.

It’s a load of patronising ******** anyway...

Pay for nowt, go to jail, **** em.

Hire Nick Freeman.

David Beckham will not face speeding prosecution:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-45668735" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

PutTheWheelieBinsOut wrote:Hire Nick Freeman.

David Beckham will not face speeding prosecution:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-45668735" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...and if anyone else claimed documents weren't received until the 7th Feb?

Happened on the 19th I got it on the 21st

Happened on the 19th I got it on the 21st ....of the next month.

Bloody post office

Speed awareness courses are only offered to those that don't speed properly. Pussies!

Just see it as a one off speeding tax. If you've been driving for 20 years say, and use your car most days then it's about 6,000 journeys. Being honest, everyone almost certainly creeps above the speed limit at some point on every trip.

So an £80 fine works out at around 1p per journey. Well worth it. Just don't be that one idiot on the course who wastes half an hour of everyone's time whining about how they didn't deserve a ticket. Keep quiet, daydream for a few hours and then walk away without any points.

Doesn't it make you proud that we live in a country where we are all equal before the law.

Oh...

Not the first time David 'One brain cell' Beckham has got off speeding.

Was this on a car park?

It does differ from force to force.

The initial NIP will not state your punishment, just make you aware that you were caught doing what speed, and the circumstances.

I was caught a couple of months ago doing 71mph on the M62, when the variable speed limit had dropped to 60. I’ve been offered a speed awareness course, which set me back £92.

I heard from a good source that they have brought back hanging for this offence

gtclaret wrote:I heard from a good source that they have brought back hanging for this offence

I can't wait

I got done a couple of years ago, 38 in a 30 zone.
Took the speed awareness course as an option, which cost me a morning's work plus about £90.
Personally I thought it was worth it, I didn't think it in any way patronising or condescending. The chap who did it was really informative and passionate about road safety. I honestly believe the course has made me a better and more considerate motorist.

You have 28 days to Reply. Use that time to the full then appeal it and make the parasites work for your money!
If you can make it drag on for 6 months it will time out.

bob-the-scutter wrote:You have 28 days to Reply. Use that time to the full then appeal it and make the parasites work for your money!
If you can make it drag on for 6 months it will time out.

Who are the “parasites” in this situation? The police? The council? Taxpayers?

I got done in July doing 50mph in a 40. Didn't realise it was a 40 and wasn't actually sure if it was national speed limit.

It was in Cumbria. I was offered speed awareness which I did, cost £90. The course has changed my driving for the better. Went past a speed camera van doing 25mph in a 30 yesterday.

I think you are okay up to 52mph in a 40. I think the RAC has a table with the range between speed awareness and points / ban.

Hopefully his (potential) knighthood has just vaporised again!

Sorry it just stinks of one set of laws for the rich and another for the poor.

I went on a speed awareness course when they were first introduced. The course was in the Dr Iven suite at Turf Moor. Morning in the classroom then driving in the afternoon. It changed the way I drive too, like most people on this thread.
If you come away from one of these courses taking nothing from it, you are obviously as thick as mince and deserve the points you will no doubt pick up afterwards.
I have little sympathy for speeders these days

Damo wrote:I went on a speed awareness course when they were first introduced. The course was in the Dr Iven suite at Turf Moor. Morning in the classroom then driving in the afternoon. It changed the way I drive too, like most people on this thread.
If you come away from one of these courses taking nothing from it, you are obviously as thick as mince and deserve the points you will no doubt pick up afterwards.
I have little sympathy for speeders these days

Is mince thick? I mean it's shredded meat. Surely a better turn of phrase would be "as thick as the original carcass was"?

Not done one but what does a 'Speed Awareness' course consist of that it helps improve your driving? Genuinely curious.

I passed my test during Italia 90 and I'd guess the Highway Code has changed since then, as have road layouts / sped limits. It is a refresher for one.

I used to be an impatient driver who had to get everywhere 2-3 minutes quicker than it should take. They went through stats of driving at 70mph and driving at 80mph on a motorway and there is very little difference in time / distance covered. I drive up to Carnforth once a week and now do 70 as opposed to anything above 80 mph on the M6. We get there in the similar time and doesn't feel longer. Use less fuel.

Tail gating - the trainer said if you are less than 6 cars distance from the car in front you are tail gating so I keep further distance from car front.

Setting from lights like a dick to stop someone cutting you up, inevitably you will end up at the next set of traffic lights a car behind or alongside that car. It actually happen on my way to the course. Again a waste of fuel and stress levels. Was on the bay gateway going to Heysham the other weekend in poor driving conditions. I was taking it easier and a Range Rover went past doing 80 and guess what happened 3 miles down the road at a set of traffic lights, I pulled up alongside him.

More paint, more restraint.

Write to Beckham he will tell how hiring a £600/hour barrister is the way to avoid a fine

Wisswosswass wrote:Not done one but what does a 'Speed Awareness' course consist of that it helps improve your driving? Genuinely curious.

Information about the placing of traffic signs was very useful I found ..... reading the sign is something we can all do but having an idea of why it is there is something extra. (For example - most warning signs are there because there has been at least one accident caused by the hazard ahead - it concentrates the mind when you know that).

Just dealing with a NIP for speeding for one of the agency drivers I use and NPCC guidelines for Driver Education Courses are:

Speed limit Up to
20 31
30 42
40 53
50 64
60 75
70 86

ClaretAndJew wrote:Received one of these today for going 47 in a 40 zone in Leeds, yes, yes, I'm a **** an arse hole, I deserve it, karma etc.

Question : What will the fine be? And the points? If any? There isn't any information about this, I expected speeding tickets to be issued with a fine to be paid in X amount of days.

Cheers!

Thing is can you find a 'loophole like Beckham's lawyer did.

Greenmile wrote:Who are the “parasites” in this situation? The police? The council? Taxpayers?

Obviously from your question, you dont understand.

LoveCurryPies wrote:
Sorry it just stinks of one set of laws for the rich and another for the poor.

Not really. He could have defended it on his own and saved himself a couple of grand. It's a simple point of law and not a "Loophole." The notice has to be sent minimum 1st class and within the 14 day time limit. If we have to adhere to certain driving laws then so should they!

Driving in the UK is a nightmare with the Congested roads and speed cameras. I also drive in Spain half the year and notice the difference when I return to the UK.
Very few speed cameras, little traffic and better quality roads due to the lack of use in Spain

They can't afford to repair our cluster-bombed cart tracks but the revenue camera's are out in force. What a fine cuntry we live in!

bob-the-scutter wrote:Obviously from your question, you dont understand.

Well obviously. I wouldn’t have asked if I did.

Top Claret wrote:Driving in the UK is a nightmare with the Congested roads and speed cameras. I also drive in Spain half the year and notice the difference when I return to the UK.
Very few speed cameras, little traffic and better quality roads due to the lack of use in Spain

Every aspect of infrastructure is under enormous strain due to the population density.

Too many ducks in this country doesn't help but at least their population seems to be going down for some unknown reason

Devils_Advocate wrote:Too many ducks in this country doesn't help but at least their population seems to be going down for some unknown reason

Not quite sure about that, I know there's less fish about for a fact, not quite sure how ducks fit in unless they've been speeding. Back on topic the prosecution for speeding offences seem to be going up & catching people out now in the less obvious places, I'm really careful when driving you've got to be, your eyes need to everywhere.

Stayingup wrote:Thing is can you find a 'loophole like Beckham's lawyer did.

It's not a loophole, it's the rules, which any solicitor should have picked up on. Loads get thrown out for same reason, just doesn't make the news.

Jakubclaret wrote:Every aspect of infrastructure is under enormous strain due to the population density.

Nothing whatsoever to do with road safety, if it was safer roads they were concerned about They would start by making them safer to actually drive on without motorists having to slalom around the potholes with one eye on the Speedo. We are a cash- cow and that's all they're interested in!

Yes......PARASITES!

bob-the-scutter wrote:Nothing whatsoever to do with road safety, if it was safer roads they were concerned about They would start by making them safer to actually drive on without motorists having to slalom around the potholes with one eye on the Speedo. We are a cash- cow and that's all they're interested in!

Yes......PARASITES!

I’ll ask again, who are these parasites you speak of? MP’s? Road workers? The folk who write traffic laws?