Martin O'Neill hasn't included Robbie Brady in the Republic of ireland squad. He said: "I spoke to Robbie & his manager. He was going to play a game on Monday but had a bit of a setback. Sean Dyche said every time it looks like he's ready he picks up a knock. It's only a minor knock but it's tough to bring him in when he hasn't played games."

It must be grand to get paid for doing nowt....

bugger!

Maybe we should get our injury updates from Martin in the future ?
He’s just told us more than the club has in the last 3 months !

Aye it's great ..

tim_noone wrote:It must be grand to get paid for doing nowt....

I’m sure the lad would prefer the situation to be different.

TVC15 wrote:Maybe we should get our injury updates from Martin in the future ?
He’s just told us more than the club has in the last 3 months !

Exactly this.

It's touch and go, we'll have to see what the physio says. It's all about fine margins.

Don't you sometimes wish, just occasionally, you know, like once in a while, maybe not too often but now and then, our beloved club were just a little, how would you put it, less secretive about things? The fans are like mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed on bullsh!te.

“Robbie’s just about there but your bonkers if you think I’m letting him bob over to Dublin and injuring himself again playing for that lot. I made up an excuse for O Neil and fobbed them off”

Sean Dyche to me yesterday in Costa.

Winstonswhite wrote:“Robbie’s just about there but your bonkers if you think I’m letting him bob over to Dublin and injuring himself again playing for that lot. I made up an excuse for O Neil and fobbed them off”

Sean Dyche to me yesterday in Costa.

Ha. It certainly puts the picking players in form vs picking players on reputation argument to bed over there doesn’t it.

i posted this the other day and will post it again

From what i've been told, we wont see him this year

Why should we risk him in a meaningless game ?

Winstonswhite wrote:“Robbie’s just about there but your bonkers if you think I’m letting him bob over to Dublin and injuring himself again playing for that lot. I made up an excuse for O Neil and fobbed them off”

Sean Dyche to me yesterday in Costa.

Funny you say that. I was in Costa but was distracted by the air ambulance. Maybe you’d been and left by that point? Anyway apparently Robbie was on board due to standing on a piece of stray Lego left behind by K Long

Why are people so keen to get chapter and verse on player injury / recovery status? What difference does it make whether the club says something or not?

BurningBeard wrote:Why are people so keen to get chapter and verse on player injury / recovery status? What difference does it make whether the club says something or not?

Same. We'll know he's back when we get team news one week and he's in it. His fitness issues are his, don't see why everyone needs to know. He'll be more frustrated than any of us anyway.

theroyaldyche wrote:i posted this the other day and will post it again

From what i've been told, we wont see him this year

Must be about time we offered him a contract extension then......

theroyaldyche wrote:i posted this the other day and will post it again

From what i've been told, we wont see him this year

Who told you? It wasn't that little bird was it?

It's hardly breaking the Hippocratic Oath to tell us he's close to being ready but won't be playing in an U23 game as planned this week because he's had a minor setback. Which is enough information to keep most people happy.

Dyched wrote:Funny you say that. I was in Costa but was distracted by the air ambulance. Maybe you’d been and left by that point? Anyway apparently Robbie was on board due to standing on a piece of stray Lego left behind by K Long

Are you sure it was the air ambulance and not those pesky aliens. They got him once before along with Defour. Thought they'd performed their operatrions and let them go? Maybe Brady's sex change operation didn't go according to plan.

There WAS a strange light over East Lancashire last night.

well who would have every thunk it, Something I'm sure no one had thought would happen and he would be starting on Saturday !!

BurningBeard wrote:Why are people so keen to get chapter and verse on player injury / recovery status? What difference does it make whether the club says something or not?

In transfer windows they tell us fans that certain players are due back meaning they dont need to look at replacements. The club are happy to feed us with lines regards injuries when it suits them.

theroyaldyche wrote:i posted this the other day and will post it again

From what i've been told, we wont see him this year

That's strange because I'm sure I saw him play at Curzon Ashton the other week.
Is that from the same people that were saying Steven Defours career was finished?

Is not just time trusted our staff and if we need to know anything they'll tell. We don't need to know his every move.

Oh for ***** sake

GET A HOBBY THAT DOESN'T MAKE YOU MISERABLE

BurningBeard wrote:Why are people so keen to get chapter and verse on player injury / recovery status? What difference does it make whether the club says something or not?

Erm so we can plan our “welcome back robbie outfit” and make sure our hair is nice

houseboy wrote:.

There WAS a strange light over East Lancashire last night.

Are sure it wasn't lights coming from Deadwood? Looking at that stadium it seems most of the inhabitants have been abducted by aliens at some point!!

BurningBeard wrote:Why are people so keen to get chapter and verse on player injury / recovery status? What difference does it make whether the club says something or not?

Is that a real question ?
You really don’t understand why supporters of a football club would want to be updated on one of their star players recovery status ?
The difference it makes is pretty obvious but i’ll give you the answer just in case - so they have an idea when the player might be coming back to play for the club they support every week.
Would it be so onerous to tell the fans he’s had a setback and when he is likely to be back ?

You must be able to tell from this forum and from how many fans speak to each other that a lot are wondering how the likes of Defour and Brady are doing.

Do you always post rhetorical questions ? (Don’t answer that !!!)

Sound like good news to me.

I didn't think he was so close, though I too don't see how it would help me if I did know Robbie's detailed medical progress by the day...

That’s 2 people who have referred to fans wanting detailed medical progress or chapter and verse

Who said they wanted that ?

“Robbie Brady has had a setback and we hope he will be able to play an u23 game in 2 or 3 weeks”......is not exactly the Magna Carta.

Fair enough TVC - but I doubt the club is so careful with info just to annoy the fans.

knew it...

Guich wrote:Sound like good news to me.

I didn't think he was so close, though I too don't see how it would help me if I did know Robbie's detailed medical progress by the day...

You must know more than Dyche then. He said he would be included in the squad this weekend.

Claretto wrote:You must know more than Dyche then. He said he would be included in the squad this weekend.

Well there you go. I missed that. That's even better

Football fans for as long as I remember are interested in when players are due back from injury - especially when they know players are close to returning and these are “star” players.

It’s a big boost to fans when someone like Defour and Brady are back on the bench......bit different if Phil Bardsley picked up a knock !!

Will be like a new signing in January,

Guich wrote:Fair enough TVC - but I doubt the club is so careful with info just to annoy the fans.

The uncomfortable truth is that the Club now communicates the absolute minimum to both shareholders and fans.

For the reason why, then someone like Clive Holt will have the answer. Some four years ago even the annual AGM was denied to shareholders and that has been the case ever since. Publishing of the financial accounts is also now withheld until the last possible moment.

Jesus let it go you don't get the facts and figures same time as you used to.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Jesus let it go you don't get the facts and figures same time as you used to.

Aren't you interested in the slightest as to the reason why?

Probably another who has no interest on injury updates.

Royboyclaret wrote:Aren't you interested in the slightest as to the reason why?

Probably another who has no interest on injury updates.

I suspect that, like most businesses, it's because they don't want to release information that may be useful to their competitors unless and until they are required to.

He’ll be back when he’s back. No sense in getting het up about it; or using this as an opportunity to infer that you have some inside information(which comes across as a bit needy).
As for when he Financial Accounts are published, I have no idea, and quite simply don’t mind about that. As a fan, that’s simply not my remit.

Royboyclaret wrote:Aren't you interested in the slightest as to the reason why?

Probably another who has no interest on injury updates.

Am I interested in why the accounts are published later ? I couldn't give a **** to be honest. How does it change your life if it is June or December ? What is the biggest dividend you have had returned from the club ?

Granted I have only ever had 1 share in the club from the season ticket pledge, but my season or view of last season won't change if we made 30 or 40 million and it is announced tomorrow or new years eve. I just don't get the hurt you feel at not getting your hands on the books of a business that isn't yours.

Injury updates is nothing to do with the accounts, but if a player was announced as pencilled in for a game and had been training with the 1st team but then missed the game I would presume he had had a slight setback. If he was out for the next 4 months I imagine it would be announced. I don't need a daily or weekly countdown to when we are likely to see the player.

You mean you presume it would be announced if he was out for 4 months like they did with Defour ?

houseboy wrote:It's touch and go, we'll have to see what the physio says. It's all about fine margins.

Don't you sometimes wish, just occasionally, you know, like once in a while, maybe not too often but now and then, our beloved club were just a little, how would you put it, less secretive about things? The fans are like mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed on bullsh!te.

To be fair, it's none of our business.

Tall Paul wrote:I suspect that, like most businesses, it's because they don't want to release information that may be useful to their competitors unless and until they are required to.

Paul......the point I'm making is that up to 2014 all such information was readily available to fans at the earliest opportunity and questions could be asked to the Board. Then four years ago something changed, and that reason has never been disclosed.

Dyche also has exactly the same approach to injury updates and communicates as little as possible to fans.

TVC15 wrote:You mean you presume it would be announced if he was out for 4 months like they did with Defour ?

I mean if it was known then yes. It has been pretty clear that there was issues getting to the bottom of it. Would he have been back sooner had they given you a date ?

They haven't given an update on Tarkowski are you ok with this ?

Royboyclaret wrote:
Dyche also has exactly the same approach to injury updates and communicates as little as possible to fans.

Have you seen how some on here react to the slightest of setbacks, regarding out Club and Team?
No wonder the Club keeps their cards close to their chest.
They’re doing the Samaritans a favour.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:I mean if it was known then yes. It has been pretty clear that there was issues getting to the bottom of it. Would he have been back sooner had they given you a date ?

They haven't given an update on Tarkowski are you ok with this ?

Yes i’m Ok thank you for asking ...he got injured last Sunday. It’s only Friday and given he’s just been named in the England squad i’m guessing it’s not too bad.

If he misses this Saturday and then pulls out of the England squad then yes I would like to know when our best defender is likely to return or how serious the injury has been.

I won’t answer your other stupid question but if you are saying that you do not care about the club providing an update on injuries that’s absolutely fine....but a large number of fans are interested and it’s pretty dumb to ask why they are interested just like it would be dumb if I asked you why you were not interested

deanothedino wrote:To be fair, it's none of our business.

Oh yes it is (said in his best pantomime voice). We pay their wages, we have a right to know, they can't keep us in the dark like this, it's just not right, we should just boycott every game until.....oh shut up.

Being serious for a minute (but no longer) Burnley FC must be the most secretive club in the land. It's the same with the proverbial transfer (undisclosed) fee. Other clubs actually keep fans informed and, whilst I know they have a right to keep things to themselves and they are doing no wrong I continually ask the question,'why'? Especially with things like the Brady injury, they must be aware by now that fans are a tad concerned about the lad and our prospects without him (and other key players at various times). Would it break some Masonic type code of conduct for them to actually tell us occasionally what is going on?

That's it, I'm done. Answers on a postcard please.

I'm amazed teams aren't more secretive so their opponents have less idea who and in what formation they will be playing against and are less able to fully prepare.

Maybe we should get our injury updates from Martin in the future ?
He’s just told us more than the club has in the last 3 months !

SD said the exact same thing about a month ago!

Royboyclaret wrote:Aren't you interested in the slightest as to the reason why?

I'd assume that they don't want to release the accounts before the January transfer window and, if they're going to hold it until after that, they may as well just file based on the statutory requirement.

Or they did a best practice review and discovered that none of the other Premier League clubs (other than where there are statutory requirements) file their accounts earlier than they're legally obliged to.