Squad announced today:

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Ludicrous not to select Hart before Butland, McCarthy & Bettinelli.
He’s 31 but it looks like Southgate is finished with him.

take Hart out of the equation, how any serious football manager can still pick Butland is a complete joke

Not really ludicrous- fully expected.
He already knows what Joe Hart can do - he’s no intention of playing him before Pickford so might aswell look at other keepers in the set up.
Pretty similar to how Tom Heaton and Nick Pope got their chance - McCarthy been playing really well for Southampton.

Given Fulham have conceded 16 goals in 7 games you have to wonder how Marcus Bettinelli has earned a call up.

So Tark's will be playing Saturday.

Jeffbfc wrote:So Tark's will be playing Saturday.

It’ll be interesting to see. Without him we are down to our last two first choice centre halves.

Good that Tarky retains his place, hopefully he will be able to shrug his injury off. Disappointing that Hart's not had a recall. The outstanding goalkeeper in the PL this season thus far. If he'd been Italian he'd hardly have reached his prime a la Buffon and Zoff. Englands loss our gain.

Falcon wrote:Given Fulham have conceded 16 goals in 7 games you have to wonder how Marcus Bettinelli has earned a call up.

Have a look through the Premier League keepers and try and find an English keeper - just Burnley, Fulham and Everton whose first team keeper is English. Not surprisingly all 3 clubs have keepers who have been picked for England....its a position that the England are struggling with in the last few years.

TVC15 wrote:Have a look through the Premier League keepers and try and find an English keeper - just Burnley, Fulham and Everton whose first team keeper is English. Not surprisingly all 3 clubs have keepers who have been picked for England....its a position that the England are struggling with in the last few years.

What about Watford and Southampton?

Wellbeck makes the squad which makes Hart’s omission a bizarre one

MRG wrote:Wellbeck makes the squad which makes Hart’s omission a bizarre one

Hart isn't very good wide left.

Good decisions I think for the new call ups. Mason Mount and James Maddison have looked pretty decent this season.

FactualFrank wrote:Hart isn't very good wide left.

who - Hart or Wellbeck...?

FactualFrank wrote:Good decisions I think for the new call ups. Mason Mount and James Maddison have looked pretty decent this season.

I'm out of the loop. Until today i had never heard of those players

FactualFrank wrote:Good decisions I think for the new call ups. Mason Mount and James Maddison have looked pretty decent this season.

Mason Mount is a absolutely quality player! knew that as soon as I saw him play for chelsea against man city in the youth cup final, would like to see him in a bfc shirt on loan next season when Frank lampards Derby don't go up this season.

edison wrote:I'm out of the loop. Until today i had never heard of those players

Your a premier league snob Edison! that's why u never heard of them..

Tall Paul wrote:What about Watford and Southampton?

Yep apologies - Southampton have their keeper in the squad and Ben Foster at Watford has said he does now want to play for England anymore.

Still not a lot of choice though.

claretdj wrote:Your a premier league snob Edison! that's why u never heard of them..

It happened so quickly

Hart is better than all of em

Really don't rate Foster. He flaps a lot, and has got a big mistake in him.

Are we to assume from all this that Tarks is okay now? Or is he touch and go?

houseboy wrote:Are we to assume from all this that Tarks is okay now? Or is he touch and go?

Yes, you'd imagine that Gareth Southgate wouldn't have picked him unless SD said he was fully fit. Which means he should play on Saturday.

Spijed wrote:Yes, you'd imagine that Gareth Southgate wouldn't have picked him unless SD said he was fully fit. Which means he should play on Saturday.

Fingers crossed. Although Long has been great.

Wolves fans are livid that Coady and Bennett were snubbed

FactualFrank wrote:Hart isn't very good wide left.

How do you know?

I find the selection of Chalobah an oddity. He's only played 4 minutes League football this season I believe (+ a L Cup game) so that pick cant be a lot to do with game form.
Is he so good that he can be included without having much game time so far this season?

nyclaret wrote:Wolves fans are livid that Coady and Bennett were snubbed

I'm a bit surprised Coady isn't in to be honest. Looks a good ball playing centre half which we know Southgate likes.

LeadBelly wrote:I find the selection of Chalobah an oddity. He's only played 4 minutes League football this season I believe (+ a L Cup game) so that pick cant be a lot to do with game form.
Is he so good that he can be included without having much game time so far this season?

Think he said that the midfield choices were partly due to other players being injured.