Hart

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:07 pm

Could he do better for the 4th and 5th?

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:21 pm

Does it matter?

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:24 pm

I suppose not. Maybe we could reduce the risk of injury and tell him to just sit down after 3.

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:28 pm

We could, but that would just be silly.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:30 pm

Vintage Claret wrote:We could, but that would just be silly.

Wouldn’t it.
You’d assume it matters then.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:31 pm

Doubt if six keepers would have kept the fourth out.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:32 pm

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:43 pm

Hart was pretty much faultless again and made some very good saves.

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:48 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Wouldn’t it.
You’d assume it matters then.

I would or you would?

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:55 pm

Should be made captain

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:55 pm

I’m simply thinking that trying to stop an opposition scoring more goals is important.

Others are free to speculate if that is important or not.
I’m merely proposing a question.

I do thank you for the input.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:05 am

He should have gone absolutely ballistic at Tarky twice in the first half but he never did.

Shocking defending from Tarky.

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:08 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:I’m simply thinking that trying to stop an opposition scoring more goals is important.

Others are free to speculate if that is important or not.
I’m merely proposing a question.

I do thank you for the input.

You're very welcome.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:17 am

Only player who has consistently been 7 or above this season. Is constantly exposed and is doing as well as he can in the circumatances. Genuinely think even Cech, Buffon and co at their peak would struggle for us this season never mind Pope and Heaton.

That said he wont be the last this season to let 5 in at the etihad.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:20 am

From where i was sat today i thought he had a good game.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:22 am

Vintage Claret wrote:You're very welcome.

Soooooooooooo does it matter or not????????

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:27 am

"Hart"

Currently our best keeper and rightly 1st choice!

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:31 am

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:"Hart"

Currently our best keeper and rightly 1st choice!

A fair opinion but any answer to the original question?

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:54 am

so far, his exploits have kept us afloat, outstanding perfomances , game after game.
Never liked him, but i do now. if the team were better, he would be ideal, but the **** defenders are making his role impossible.

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:54 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Soooooooooooo does it matter or not????????

It may matter to some but considering we were 3-0 down at the time with zero chance of winning it doesn't matter to me if Joe was at fault or not, I buggered off after the 4th goal anyway so can't comment on the 5th.

(I'd check your keyboard by the way, it seems to be sticking on the 'o' and '?' keys)

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:29 am

tim_noone wrote:From where i was sat today i thought he had a good game.

He let in five goals. Heaton, at his best would have saved a couple of them.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:36 am

it would have been 8 without him

Claretto · Post by **Claretto** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:37 am

He was terrible (along with everyone else) for the second. I know it was over the line but still...play to the whistle as you are taught at the age of 5. Especially as a goalkeeper.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:30 am

No, he isn't Superman but he is a top class Keeper!

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:55 am

dermotdermot wrote:He let in five goals. Heaton, at his best would have saved a couple of them.

So today's question is -

Is Heaton back to his best?

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:12 am

Hart hasn't done anything wrong but looks sick and tired of how bad our defence is. He won't have played in any team that regulary concedes over 20 shots a game.

dushanbe · Post by **dushanbe** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:17 am

I doubt he could have done better in reality, but to answer the question with ‘does it matter’ because they were the fourth and fifth conceded is churlish.

Let’s assume he might have done better, this week they were the fourth and fifth, another week that type of shot might be the first and second in a tight game.

Siddo · Post by **Siddo** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:24 am

dermotdermot wrote:He let in five goals. Heaton, at his best would have saved a couple of them.

That is just silly.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:28 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:A fair opinion but any answer to the original question?

No because it's a bloody stupid question in the 1st place!

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:36 am

I thought he could have done better with the fourth. Its a super strike, but it was on Hart's side and i dont think he was unsighted.

Not sure he could do much about the 5th, but one of the catalogue of errors for the 2nd wad Hart charging out towards the ball when he had no hope of getting there, thereby leaving the goal itself unguarded and making the finish much easier.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:42 am

He had no chance or next to no chance with the fourth. It was a lovely shot by Mahrez that started outside the post and swerved into the corner.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:49 am

It's harsh blaming Hart or our defence IMO. Our style of play constantly keeps our defence under pressure. Even the best players will make mistakes if they under constant pressure.

Hart has been outstanding for us so far.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:34 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:Hart hasn't done anything wrong but looks sick and tired of how bad our defence is. He won't have played in any team that regulary concedes over 20 shots a game.

West Ham.

mickleoverclaret · Post by **mickleoverclaret** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:38 am

I thought the fourth was saveable as well, but he'd be a long way down the list of players to criticise from yesterday's game.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:40 am

taio wrote:He had no chance or next to no chance with the fourth. It was a lovely shot by Mahrez that started outside the post and swerved into the corner.

I'm not sure how far outside the width of the post it ever was - I was right behind it, and although it was nicely curled, I never thought it was setting off that wide, and whilst it was pretty well in the corner, it was only a couple of yards to Hart's side. It was certainly odd that he didn't even make an attempt.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:53 am

claretspice wrote:I'm not sure how far outside the width of the post it ever was - I was right behind it, and although it was nicely curled, I never thought it was setting off that wide, and whilst it was pretty well in the corner, it was only a couple of yards to Hart's side. It was certainly odd that he didn't even make an attempt.

There was plenty of bend on it and with the whip and pace on the ball into the corner it gave Hart little chance. It was a excellent effort and that is the sole reason for him scoring rather anything Hart did wrong.

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:56 am

What does Heaton have to do to get a game?

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:58 am

taio wrote:There was plenty of bend on it and with the whip and pace on the ball into the corner it gave Hart little chance. It was a excellent effort and that is the sole reason for him scoring rather anything Hart did wrong.

We'll have to agree to disagree then - certainly not saying it wasn't a terrific shot, or that it was necessarily a howler from Hart, but I don't think the shot was as fierce or bent as dramatically as you're suggesting, and I certainly don't think it was one I'd expect a quality keeper to allow to pass him without at least making an attempt to save it.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:08 pm

claretspice wrote:We'll have to agree to disagree then - certainly not saying it wasn't a terrific shot, or that it was necessarily a howler from Hart, but I don't think the shot was as fierce or bent as dramatically as you're suggesting, and I certainly don't think it was one I'd expect a quality keeper to allow to pass him without at least making an attempt to save it.

Not dramatic, just said there was plenty of bend on it and hit with pace. Thought it was pretty unstoppable at time and on watching MOTD (the pundits said Hart had no chance) I haven't changed my mind.The reviews I've read suggest the same.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:54 pm

Giftonsnoidea wrote:What does Heaton have to do to get a game?

Be better than Hart perhaps?

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:07 pm

As far as I can see Hart has been our best player so far this season
and has kept us in games if not won a few points this season.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:07 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:No because it's a bloody stupid question in the 1st place!

Ouch.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:17 pm

jurek wrote:As far as I can see Hart has been our best player so far this season
and has kept us in games if not won a few points this season.

Stop talking sense. It confuses some people.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:19 pm

jurek wrote:As far as I can see Hart has been our best player so far this season
and has kept us in games if not won a few points this season.

He’s been excellent this season. Far better than I thought he’d be.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:44 pm

jurek wrote:As far as I can see Hart has been our best player so far this season
and has kept us in games if not won a few points this season.

He's made some good saves but I would expect that from a goalkeeper with his pedigree. Despite only playing nine games I can't think where he has won us any points, the many saves he has made have been in games where generally we have been overrun so essentially he has kept the score just about respectable.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:55 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:He's made some good saves but I would expect that from a goalkeeper with his pedigree. Despite only playing nine games I can't think where he has won us any points, the many saves he has made have been in games where generally we have been overrun so essentially he has kept the score just about respectable.

Cardiff, Southampton, that’s 4 points

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:14 pm

joey13 wrote:Cardiff, Southampton, that’s 4 points

Cardiff saw an excellent save in the first half and a pretty standard one after the interval.
Watched all of the Southampton game on TV where we dominated for a good hour of the game. If he kept us in it in the other half hour then fair enough but I can't recall anything out of the ordinary that he did.
All a matter of opinion, of course and healthy debate which isn't always forthcoming on here. One poster decided to tell me to f**k off last week in one of his regular argumentative rants when he was no longer capable of articulating his thought.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:16 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:Cardiff saw an excellent save in the first half and a pretty standard one after the interval.
Watched all of the Southampton game on TV where we dominated for a good hour of the game. If he kept us in it in the other half hour then fair enough but I can't recall anything out of the ordinary that he did.
All a matter of opinion, of course and healthy debate which isn't always forthcoming on here. One poster decided to tell me to f**k off last week in one of his regular argumentative rants when he was no longer capable of articulating his thought.

F@@k off

Made a decent save towards the end of the Southampton game

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:31 pm

joey13 wrote:F@@k off

Made a decent save towards the end of the Southampton game

Like I said,fair enough. Your memory is much better than mine and a decent sense of humour to go with it.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:40 pm

Can anyone name me one of our other players who have been better than Joe Hart this season?