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What the hell is the world coming to...

Teaching diversity in schools, what next? Promoting women's rights?

ClaretAndJew wrote:Teaching diversity in schools, what next? Promoting women's rights?

I am strongly against women’s rights however I am a firm supporter of equal rights

Asking me to be politically correct reminds me of when I was told “Don’t do that” teehee

ClaretAndJew wrote:Teaching diversity in schools, what next? Promoting women's rights?

Hopefuly not.

We used to joke in the 70s that they'd make it compulsory. It is no longer a joke that sad day is coming. The media luvvies have turned the world to ****.

Brainwashing

I try not to get wound up by such things. But that teacher is infuriatingly smug!

Sweet Jesus of Nazareth... to think this isn’t a wind up either it’s vaguely sickening more because of the self congratulatory smugness as opposed to teaching 6 yr olds about buggery and felching . I’m all for gay marriage and equal rights why ever not ? But to start teaching this stuff ( or any adult relationship stuff) to this age kids is just wrong .

I suppose 6 is a good age to teach children that they and their friends aren't just people, they're sex objects as well. It's never too early to sexualise a child. Presumably.

Its outrageously ******* weird.

MRG wrote:I am strongly against women’s rights however I am a firm supporter of equal rights

Beautifully and correctly put sir. As soon as you start talking about promoting the 'rights' of a section of the community, whoever it be, you will by default be taking away the rights of others.

Equality can only be achieved if everyone is treated equally, not treated as a special case.

ClaretAndJew wrote:Teaching diversity in schools, what next? Promoting women's rights?

There's teaching diversity and there's teaching a 6 year old to write a letter to someone asking them to marry them. Regardless of whether that's a homosexual marriage or not, I find that a little weird.

deanothedino wrote:There's teaching diversity and there's teaching a 6 year old to write a letter to someone asking them to marry them. Regardless of whether that's a homosexual marriage or not, I find that a little weird.

Wouldn't writing a letter to anyone asking for marriage be weird? No matter the age?

Whilst our children do need preparing for what might confront them in the big wide world in future years it needs teaching progressively. For instance reproduction probably needs to be understood before sexuality and at 6 years old that is ridiculously young to be introducing them to the first subject never mind the latter. The innocence of childhood is shortening by the generation but this is too much too young.

ClaretAndJew wrote:Wouldn't writing a letter to anyone asking for marriage be weird? No matter the age?

Yes, even more so when they're 6 though. They don't need to be taught about marriage then.

Is this simply an attempt to get their school into the papers and lap up some attention? I bet that's part of it.

How did "Jeff's tackle" and "A load of balls" end up next to each other on the menu? Aren't they the same topic?

While chatting with my 5 year old girls, we discussed that some boys have boyfriends and some girls have girlfriends... that’s was it, they took it onboard, no questions or anything

houseboy wrote:Beautifully and correctly put sir. As soon as you start talking about promoting the 'rights' of a section of the community, whoever it be, you will by default be taking away the rights of others.

Equality can only be achieved if everyone is treated equally, not treated as a special case.

Let me guess. You’re a straight white middle-aged man. The group whose rights are really under threat by all this promotion of diversity

claptrappers_union wrote:While chatting with my 5 year old girls, we discussed that some boys have boyfriends and some girls have girlfriends... that’s was it, they took it onboard, no questions or anything

Spot on. My 6 year old daughter asked can a man marry a man. Simple answer yes of course and then as said above she took it on board. When curiosity gets the better of her she will ask her next question and I will answer it honestly. It is called parenting.

Greenmile wrote:Let me guess. You’re a straight white middle-aged man. The group whose rights are really under threat by all this promotion of diversity

Let me guess - you are politically correct and believe in 'positive' discrimination? What you haven't realised yet is there is nothing 'positive' at all in any kind of discrimination. When you have defended equality for ALL as long as I have please feel free to come back and tell me all about it. But first you must go away and learn the meaning of the word equality.
No-one should be treated any better or worse than anyone else regardless of colour, gender, gender preference, race, religion or age (although I wouldn't base any laws personally on religious beliefs as they are too varied and entrenched to be all inclusive - that is one area that you cannot allow for all without causing 'offence' to someone).
You see my friend just because someone posts on a site like this and you don't agree with them you cannot even begin to make assumptions about what they are and what they stand for, you try to assume that you know all there is to know about a person because of a few sentences on a football forum.
I believe passionately in equality and always have, now go away and look up the meaning in a dictionary.

Greenmile wrote:Let me guess. You’re a straight white middle-aged man. The group whose rights are really under threat by all this promotion of diversity

The kind of post that kills equal rights time after time. If one group is getting it good then work should be done to bring others in line with those standards not introduce a completely new set of rules in an attempt of tic for tac. Equal mean equal

As somebody who identifies as a gender fluid love letter I find this incredibly discriminating.

It’s no different to people’s kids asking “ why are Asian men always on tv being sent to prison for child abuse” you just explain to them why .. it’s call parenting .

AlargeClaret wrote:It’s no different to people’s kids asking “ why are Asian men always on tv being sent to prison for child abuse” you just explain to them why .. it’s call parenting .

Or football coaches or TV presenters or Publicists. Its called parenting.

Legal age for a girl to be married is 9 in Iran and 10 in Saudi Arabia and 12 in quite a few places (including Massachusetts oddly).

Greenmile wrote:Let me guess. You’re a straight white middle-aged man. The group whose rights are really under threat by all this promotion of diversity

Ageist, sexist, racist and hetroxualist (if that's yet a word). All in one sentence.

Well done sir (or madam, or it)

The worlds gone mad. Looking for an apartment on airbnb for West Ham away.

WTF Is this all about? Why is it relevant to advertise the sexuality of the owner!?!?!

cricketfieldclarets wrote:The worlds gone mad. Looking for an apartment on airbnb for West Ham away.

WTF Is this all about? Why is it relevant to advertise the sexuality of the owner!?!?!

It might be an apartment in the 1920's, where it means 'happy'

cricketfieldclarets wrote:The worlds gone mad. Looking for an apartment on airbnb for West Ham away.

WTF Is this all about? Why is it relevant to advertise the sexuality of the owner!?!?!

I guess it could be an advertisement or a warning.

Guich wrote:I guess it could be an advertisement or a warning.

Or both

Well I hope they get marked down if they don't provide a detailed assessment of the inheritance tax saving that they might achieve.

Perhaps they've had issues in the past where someone has turned up then cancelled their booking when they realised they were staying at a gay's house. Keeps those people away without the fuss.

Wonder what would happen if they mentioned “ a ”straight household” though in fairness sounds like they’re just looking for a bit of action to go with the let so no big deal really . Don’t forget your Vaseline CFC

houseboy wrote:Let me guess - you are politically correct and believe in 'positive' discrimination? What you haven't realised yet is there is nothing 'positive' at all in any kind of discrimination. When you have defended equality for ALL as long as I have please feel free to come back and tell me all about it. But first you must go away and learn the meaning of the word equality.
No-one should be treated any better or worse than anyone else regardless of colour, gender, gender preference, race, religion or age (although I wouldn't base any laws personally on religious beliefs as they are too varied and entrenched to be all inclusive - that is one area that you cannot allow for all without causing 'offence' to someone).
You see my friend just because someone posts on a site like this and you don't agree with them you cannot even begin to make assumptions about what they are and what they stand for, you try to assume that you know all there is to know about a person because of a few sentences on a football forum.
I believe passionately in equality and always have, now go away and look up the meaning in a dictionary.

I guessed right, though, didn't I? My assumptions (about you) based on a few sentences on a football forum were spot on, I'd bet.

So are yours, btw. I am politically correct and I do believe in positive discrimination.

Like it or not (and I don't), straight white men like you and I benefit from all kinds of advantages solely because of history and the way that modern society is structured. Positive discrimination is one way of levelling that unfair playing field. There's really no need to defend equality for the likes of you and me in modern-day western society. Your energy would be better expended trying to acheive (not defend) equality for those segments of society who don't already have all the advantages of straight white men.

I absolutely agree with every word of your second paragraph, though. It's just the first and third which could do with a bot more thought.

Can you at least both agree you are on the same side you just prefer different terminology.

Greenmile wrote:I guessed right, though, didn't I? My assumptions (about you) based on a few sentences on a football forum were spot on, I'd bet.

So are yours, btw. I am politically correct and I do believe in positive discrimination.

Like it or not (and I don't), straight white men like you and I benefit from all kinds of advantages solely because of history and the way that modern society is structured. Positive discrimination is one way of levelling that unfair playing field. There's really no need to defend equality for the likes of you and me in modern-day western society. Your energy would be better expended trying to acheive (not defend) equality for those segments of society who don't already have all the advantages of straight white men.

I absolutely agree with every word of your second paragraph, though. It's just the first and third which could do with a bot more thought.

If so called "positive discrimination" involves ensuring that every applicant has a truly equal chance of the post they are applying for then who could possibly disagree with it? Unfortunately it appears to involve giving jobs to applicants who are less well qualified and less able than their competitors ....which ultimately has a bad effect on the morale and success of their organisations. Yes I am also a straight white male .....so what?

By the way - I don't believe that I have ever suffered from positive discrimination - but I have seen a number of people who have gained from it and it has been disastrous for the organisation.

keith1879 wrote:If so called "positive discrimination" involves ensuring that every applicant has a truly equal chance of the post they are applying for then who could possibly disagree with it? Unfortunately it appears to involve giving jobs to applicants who are less well qualified and less able than their competitors ....which ultimately has a bad effect on the morale and success of their organisations. Yes I am also a straight white male .....so what?

By the way - I don't believe that I have ever suffered from positive discrimination - but I have seen a number of people who have gained from it and it has been disastrous for the organisation.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".

Tom Lehrer said that one of the things he admired about the US military was that they had abolished discrimination not only on the grounds of race, creed or colour, but also on the grounds of ability.

Mind you, Tom Lehrer didn't do political correctness!

Why do people always choose a football forum in order to discuss homosexuality?

ontario claret wrote:Why do people always choose a football forum in order to discuss homosexuality?

Probably similar reasons to why you choose one to post about NFL / baseball / obscure Canadian politicians etc.

If we only discussed football on here, it would become v boring v quickly, imo.

deanothedino wrote:There's teaching diversity and there's teaching a 6 year old to write a letter to someone asking them to marry them. Regardless of whether that's a homosexual marriage or not, I find that a little weird.

Children appear to be actively encouraged to "try it". Sort of if you are not sure about your own sexual identity try a bit of both and if you are still not sure... You are bisexual! Strange world we are living in.

Then there is the are you trapped in the wrong body? variety.

Out the word 'gay' immediately in all news, culture, everywhere. Tell it like it is, blokes after knobbing other blokes' backsides. Disgusting story. The world has always been as it is. it's another media bash of the heterosexual majority to use minority social groups for political mob rule.

Pstotto wrote:Out the word 'gay' immediately in all news, culture, everywhere. Tell it like it is, blokes after knobbing other blokes' backsides. Disgusting story. The world has always been as it is. it's another media bash of the heterosexual majority to use minority social groups for political mob rule.

There's a reason why I post about topics that may not interest you, greenmile. There are people on this site who have an interest in sport topics beyond BFC. Some of them live outside of the UK, and may wish to express an opinion on something other than should Sean Dyche be fired. And when you mention obscure politicians, I think you mean my post on Dan Carter. When a person formerly living rough with multiple drug and alcohol addictions becomes mayor of the 10th largest city in Ontario, I think that it deserves recognition by the general population. Something to actually rejoice in in these trying times. Now, back to your cause of choice. Regular programming is resumed.

ontario claret wrote:There's a reason why I post about topics that may not interest you, greenmile. There are people on this site who have an interest in sport topics beyond BFC. Some of them live outside of the UK, and may wish to express an opinion on something other than should Sean Dyche be fired. And when you mention obscure politicians, I think you mean my post on Dan Carter. When a person formerly living rough with multiple drug and alcohol addictions becomes mayor of the 10th largest city in Ontario, I think that it deserves recognition by the general population. Something to actually rejoice in in these trying times. Now, back to your cause of choice. Regular programming is resumed.

You seem to think I have an issue with you posting about those things. I really don’t - as I said, if we only discussed football on here, it would become v boring v quickly, imo.

I do have a (slight) issue when you complain about other folk posting about non-football-related topics that may interest them though, because it makes you a bit of a hypocrite. Or a repressed Victorian type who thinks things like homosexuality should never be openly discussed in polite society.

Edit - just FYI, I didn’t see your Dan Carter post. This was the “obscure Canadian politician” thread I was thinking of, not that it makes any difference to my point.

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Pstotto wrote:Out the word 'gay' immediately in all news, culture, everywhere. Tell it like it is, blokes after knobbing other blokes' backsides. Disgusting story. The world has always been as it is. it's another media bash of the heterosexual majority to use minority social groups for political mob rule.

Does Pstotto get a free pass for being a hateful bigot because of his mental health issues? I have to say, as a fully paid up member of the bleeding-heart liberal, sandal-wearing community, I’m a bit conflicted - I don’t like to criticise the obviously unwell, but nor do I feel comfortable letting blatant homophobia like the above (or the xenophobia he displays on other threads) pass as if it’s acceptable in the 21st century.

Nothing homophobic at all about my comment, luvvi husky that you is. No hateful bigotry, just common sense. Tell it like it is and come out from the closet about what those folks are about, those types, rather than hiding behind a 'cutesy' word that meant happy and brightly coloured, hatefully subverting world culture in the act of language appropriation, totally trashing other people's literature with disrespect and a scorn of other people's values.