• Diving Should Be a Special Card

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:39 pm**

The amount of diving going on these days is ridiculous. Maybe it shouldn't be a straight red, but something more than an ordinary yellow is needed. Maybe an orange card, and if you accumulate 3, a five game suspension, or something along those lines. I think that would have an effect.

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:50 pm**

It need addressing. Personally id be embarassed if I was the manager of a player doing that not to mention if i was the player.

Shameful.

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:52 pm**

At least the OP isnt on about shite canadian sport for a change

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:52 pm**

I think a yellow - if done properly, is perfect.

The punishment isn't the problem, it's how often that punishment is given out.

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:15 pm**

Unfortunately, shaming doesn't work for these guys, cricketfields. For them, it's strictly a results business. I've often wondered what's being said when they all rush to congratulate each other after a goal is scored. Probably something along the lines of "That was great. You earned me another million pounds on my next contract".

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:18 pm**

|And would somebody please break David Ruiz's leg for me? God I hate that guy. Arrogance personified.

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:19 pm**

needs the PL to ban them for 4 games retrospectively even if the ref books them

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:19 pm**

A booking is no longer enough. Where after the game it's beyond any doubt a player dived in attempt to create a goal scoring opportunity a suspension should be handed out.

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:22 pm**

Perhaps "special" punishment could be sent off to a sin bin for 20 mins?
Not sure how this would help in last 20 mins though...

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:24 pm**

Once VAR is established it should be an automatic red, nothing else will work.

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:24 pm**

ontario claret wrote:Unfortunately, shaming doesn't work for these guys, cricketfields. For them, it's strictly a results business. I've often wondered what's being said when they all rush to congratulate each other after a goal is scored. Probably something along the lines of "That was great. You earned me another million pounds on my next contract".

Agreed. There should be a concerted effort by the media to shame divers. There should be greater punishment as well. Automatic bans and the like.
I hated it when Willian not only dived but saw fit to look shocked and argue with the ref when he got booked.

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:27 pm**

Should be a yellow, then upgraded to a red with a mandatory 5 match ban after the game, if proved by the cameras.

This whole not being able to ban players because they didnt con the ref is completely backward.

Implement the above and it stops in weeks, guaranteed.

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:28 pm**

taio wrote:A booking is no longer enough. Where after the game it's beyond any doubt a player dived in attempt to create a goal scoring opportunity a suspension should be handed out.

Like I've said. It's not enough because it's rarely sanctioned. How often do you see a yellow brought out for a dive? 1 in 50?

Make it compulsory and then let's see what happens.

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:30 pm**

quoonbeatz wrote:Should be a yellow, then upgraded to a red with a mandatory 5 match ban after the game, if proved by the cameras.

This whole not being able to ban players because they didnt con the ref is completely backward.

Implement the above and it stops in weeks, guaranteed.

That doesn't really make any sense though. The referee, or his assistant has seen the dive and it's a dive - there's not really any middle decision. So it's a yes or a no.

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:31 pm**

FactualFrank wrote:Like I've said. It's not enough because it's rarely sanctioned. How often do you see a yellow brought out for a dive? 1 in 50?

Make it compulsory and then let's see what happens.

The problem is it's often difficult for the ref to be certain. That's why retrospective punishment is needed until such time as VAR can promote immediate action.

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:33 pm**

FactualFrank wrote:That doesn't really make any sense though. The referee, or his assistant has seen the dive and it's a dive - there's not really any middle decision. So it's a yes or a no.

It makes perfect sense as it's a bit of a grey area and they can be quite tough calls, so the refs need some support.

It should be a ban if you dive, not only if you successfully conned the ref.

Yellow card during the game but the ability to upgrade or downgrade afterwards would fit perfectly.

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:35 pm**

That german referee against Istanbul at Turf had a long spell of ignoring players' pretendin and diving antics. After about 10mins it almost completely stopped.

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:38 pm**

Give them a 5 game ban, whether they get booked in the game for it or it is discovered retrospectively. It's a joke and is ruining the game. Currently, there is no deterrent so players do it whenever they like

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:35 pm**

Pawson booked 2 of them today, and it stopped. Actually, one of them got subbed and headed directly to the change rooms under a chorus of "******, ******, ******, ******.....". I absolutely loved it. Actually, it was my favourite part of the game.

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:36 pm**

Wha??? I can't say "******"?

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:41 pm**

A yellow in the game with a possible ban afterwards is no good if the dive affects the result of the game. If it’s seen in the game it should be a red there and then.

That’d surely be the best way to put an end to it once and for all. As it stands, we are pretty much condoning cheating.

Posted: **Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:57 pm**

In my opinion if a player dives for a penalty, they should award a penalty to the opposition. Much more effective than a ban or a yellow card if a footballer’s cheating influences the game in a negative fashion for their own team, it would soon be stamped out

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:25 am**

The ref of course can be an incompetent muppet like Super Jonny Moss who had another horror show in Manchester.Thats the problem.Shite refs favour top teams.

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:37 am**

Diving is something we need to get 'better' at. Whether we like it or not, it's part of the game and we need to get a little bit smarter in this area.

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:07 pm**

claret2018 wrote:Diving is something we need to get 'better' at. Whether we like it or not, it's part of the game and we need to get a little bit smarter in this area.

I've been saying this for about 10 years. Said the same for England at tournaments too.

No one is dealing with it so we either have to continue to play honestly and allow a few penalties, free kicks and consequently losses to cheating and continue to bang the drum no-one is listening to or become the best at it and use it to our advantage.

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:18 pm**

A second yellow should be a red.
If it's the first offence it could be accompanied with a 15 minute sin bin.
Sit them on a too small stool on the half way line, on the opposite side from the dugout. The roasting they get for 15 minutes should deter anyone.

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:02 pm**

Colburn_Claret wrote:A second yellow should be a red.
If it's the first offence it could be accompanied with a 15 minute sin bin.
Sit them on a too small stool on the half way line, on the opposite side from the dugout. The roasting they get for 15 minutes should deter anyone.

15 minutes of Roasting

after the watershed hopefully.

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:13 pm**

1pt deduction for each offence per game

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:30 pm**

Sin bin for twenty minutes. If it's at end of game you start next match with ten men until the twenty minutes are made up.

Posted: **Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:05 pm**

Better yet, make them march up and down in front of the Cricketfield End for 15 minutes.

Posted: **Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:21 am**

Prison for repeat offenders.

Posted: **Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:06 am**

Death's too good for 'em

Posted: **Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:04 pm**

Make it a pink card and the problem will solve itself

Posted: **Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:57 pm**

Waterboarding comes to mind. Where's Dick Cheney when you need him?

Posted: **Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:39 am**

Sin bin during a match would be useful.

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