Are we? I really hope we can get back to business / winning ways. We need 3 points.

Soften them up in Gisburn...

Pstotto wrote:Soften them up in Gisburn...

Uncalled for Pstotto really after the events last time

Why what happened in Gisburn last time Bosscat?

Bosscat wrote:Uncalled for Pstotto really after the events last time

Nothing much, football fans in a pub/area that aren’t used to dealing with it so obviously thought it was a bit too much. Nobody hurt, and it took an hour to clean up when they left, was hardly worth the headlines it made in both local newspapers.

I better add a then, to the post. I'm just being a bit naughty for a joke, I'm sorry.

Yes the toon fans are on the march again, amazing what 2 wins can do, until you point out that it is 2 wins this season. Same for us so we are in for an important game Monday night.

Big game indeed on Monday, i think we have a decent record at home against Toon, so hopefully a much needed 3 points will be on the cards for the clarets, I hope so because if we end up loosing the game, we are in for a really tough relegation battle, there are worse teams than us in the PL but they are playing better football than us without getting results, we have been lucky against Cardiff,Huddersfield and Leicester, things could have been a lot worse, at least our injury list is shrinking and hopefully a bit of form is returning, I think we can win but its going to close, come on you clarets.

Has to be a win, no other result will do.

Still need payback for 74

Just demonstrates the situation we find ourselves in(and many other clubs in this league) when we are looking at this game as 'vital, must win or a six pointer. Only 12 games in, still November and it is taking on the significance of the type of game usually reserved for April/May in years gone by. Scrambling for safety from November onwards illustrates perfectly the sheer divide that exists now between a handful of clubs and the remaining majority.

They've more right to be optimistic than us, the performance on Monday is crucial. A defeat isn't the end of the world if we can look at it and say we were unlucky, but if we put in another dire performance and lose, we will rightly look like relegation fodder.

joey13 wrote:Still need payback for 74

Absolutely unreal. We had by far the better side but they beat us in the semi at Hillsborough, the Texaco Cup Final, which should have been two legs but ended up one at St. James’, and then cost us Europe with a 1-1 draw ont’Turf last game of the season.
Total jinx.

I went to the semi as did a number of the older posters on here and it's a bit poor when we have to keep referring back it whenever we play them. I was as disappointed as anyone that day but it was nearly 45 years ago. It's like someone in 1974 still having a gripe over a minor setback that happened to them in 1929.

I’m not surprised. 2 crap teams! I look forward to being proved wrong!

Silkyskills1 wrote:I went to the semi as did a number of the older posters on here and it's a bit poor when we have to keep referring back it whenever we play them. I was as disappointed as anyone that day but it was nearly 45 years ago. It's like someone in 1974 still having a gripe over a minor setback that happened to them in 1929.

My worst experience at a football match ever and I would imagine the same for a number of supporters it wasn’t a “minor setback” then and isn’t now !

We lost the 74 match because our main striker Frank Casper had been crippled by Norman Hunter at Leeds .
Frank was one of the top scorers in Div 1 but had a career ending injury.

Woodleyclaret wrote:We lost the 74 match because our main striker Frank Casper had been crippled by Norman Hunter at Leeds .
Frank was one of the top scorers in Div 1 but had a career ending injury.

Not quite ended, who could forget the free kick against QPR.

Hillsborough was a sickener, I hated MacDonald for years, until I heard him on a NE Radio phone in, admit how lucky they were.

Colburn_Claret wrote:Not quite ended, who could forget the free kick against QPR.

Hillsborough was a sickener, I hated MacDonald for years, until I heard him on a NE Radio phone in, admit how lucky they were.

And a twice-taken free kick as well. The first went in and the second went straight through the wall. Was it the last minute? What a way to end your career.

I said somewhere on a YouTube channel today that we could use a Frank Casper now.

Excellent following

I don't believe in fate but why is it that when we are about to play a sh!t side they seem to improve just before we play them. And they have.

Deja vu all over again.

piston broke wrote:Absolutely unreal. We had by far the better side but they beat us in the semi at Hillsborough, the Texaco Cup Final, which should have been two legs but ended up one at St. James’, and then cost us Europe with a 1-1 draw ont’Turf last game of the season.
Total jinx.

I remember that season well and still look back with a certain hatred on 'Supermac' who I think scored in all 3 games. The semi was a joke as we played em off the park and they got humilitaed in the final. The Texaco 'final' was dropped to one leg I think because they were in the FA Cup final (undeservedly) and the last game of the season cost us a European place (when it was taken seriously) due to (if memory serves) a late equaliser by you-know-who. The irony was that Supermac wasn't actually that good, he just had the speed of an olympic sprinter. But for him we would have been in the FA Cup final (scousers said afterwards we would have been the better opponents), quite possibly have won the Texaco and got a place in Europe. That would have been a very satisfying season I think.

Still, all if's buts and maybes.

I am currently reading Dave Thomas' biography of Jimmy Adamson (good read by the way) and he pinpoints the 74 semi final as a huge turning point in the fortunes of the club. I can't really argue with that and cannot remember being so distraught coming off a game. As for this coming Monday my heart says win my head says draw. Let's just hope the small shoots of recovery that we saw at Leicester begin to flourish.

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Spijed wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmrgUi200YQ

Sadist!!

Spijed wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmrgUi200YQ

Never seen as many Geordies I was 21 that day. Gutted!

Mondsley wrote:I am currently reading Dave Thomas' biography of Jimmy Adamson (good read by the way) and he pinpoints the 74 semi final as a huge turning point in the fortunes of the club. I can't really argue with that and cannot remember being so distraught coming off a game. As for this coming Monday my heart says win my head says draw. Let's just hope the small shoots of recovery that we saw at Leicester begin to flourish.

Interesting point you make regarding 'a huge turning point'. Most of us were expecting a visit to Wembley but instead found ourselves at Filbert Street playing for 3rd place. However fast forward 12 months and only an Everton victory at Highbury prevented us going top of the league with just a few games remaining. A lack of depth in the squad then cost us dearly and I think the turning point came at the start of the next season when we filled those gaps with ageing players who were past their best. Only an opinion, of course, before some ubiquitous smart-arse comes in with a quirky one liner.

Interesting point you make regarding 'a huge turning point'. Most of us were expecting a visit to Wembley but instead found ourselves at Filbert Street playing for 3rd place. However fast forward 12 months and only an Everton victory at Highbury prevented us going top of the league with just a few games remaining. A lack of depth in the squad then cost us dearly and I think the turning point came at the start of the next season when we filled those gaps with ageing players who were past their best. Only an opinion, of course, before some ubiquitous smart-arse comes in with a quirky one liner.[/quote]

To be fair it was Dave's point not mine. But I find it hard to disagree. However i do think the sale of Martin Dobson at the start of the 74/75 season was a significant moment especially as this was probably the beginning of the end for Adamson and his relationship with Bob Lord. All in the past now. Let's hope for an improved performance and 3 points on Monday!

Toon will have a magnificent following.

Nesnajttam wrote:Toon will have a magnificent following.

You mean 2,400 like most other teams we play at home?

Spijed wrote:You mean 2,400 like most other teams we play at home?

Is that all they're allowed? Shame.

Nesnajttam wrote:Toon will have a magnificent following.

A magnificent following for a magnificent team? ..... Oh wait is Newcastle magnificent?! Nah.

Healeywoodclaret wrote:A magnificent following for a magnificent team? ..... Oh wait is Newcastle magnificent?! Nah.

Their fans are awesome.. Never forget beating them 1-0 in the last minute in the fa cup.. On the way home thousands surrounded my car and rocked it, trying to turn it over.. Awesome..!

Mondsley wrote:Interesting point you make regarding 'a huge turning point'. Most of us were expecting a visit to Wembley but instead found ourselves at Filbert Street playing for 3rd place. However fast forward 12 months and only an Everton victory at Highbury prevented us going top of the league with just a few games remaining. A lack of depth in the squad then cost us dearly and I think the turning point came at the start of the next season when we filled those gaps with ageing players who were past their best. Only an opinion, of course, before some ubiquitous smart-arse comes in with a quirky one liner.

To be fair it was Dave's point not mine. But I find it hard to disagree. However i do think the sale of Martin Dobson at the start of the 74/75 season was a significant moment especially as this was probably the beginning of the end for Adamson and his relationship with Bob Lord. All in the past now. Let's hope for an improved performance and 3 points on Monday![/quote]

Wasn't the sale of Geoff Nulty more significant?

Spijed wrote:
To be fair it was Dave's point not mine. But I find it hard to disagree. However i do think the sale of Martin Dobson at the start of the 74/75 season was a significant moment especially as this was probably the beginning of the end for Adamson and his relationship with Bob Lord. All in the past now. Let's hope for an improved performance and 3 points on Monday!

Wasn't the sale of Geoff Nulty more significant?[/quote]

Arguably. In reality it was probably a combination of things. You could also blame Norman Hunter for his tackle on Frank Casper at Leeds the week before the semi. But then we'd be here all night! I just think the semi final was the start of a downhill slide that took many years to reverse. But hey us (ahem) older chaps are always pilloried for living in the past. Let's look forward to Monday with optimism!

Another oldie here - yes all those factors contributed to our decline - semi-final defeat, Dobson sale, Nulty sale, new stand, poor economics etc. But given the way Liverpool destroyed Newcastle in the cup final, it was possibly a blessing that we lost at Hillsboro?

we need the 3 points on Monday big time, no other result is good enough

Nesnajttam wrote:Their fans are awesome.. Never forget beating them 1-0 in the last minute in the fa cup.. On the way home thousands surrounded my car and rocked it, trying to turn it over.. Awesome..!

Is that when you banged your head