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Kit Carson - alleged abuser dies in car crash

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:55 am
by ClaretTony
Michael 'Kit' Carson was due in court this morning in Peterborough on 12 counts of indecent assault and one of causing or inciting a child to engage in sexual activity. The offences were alleged to have happened between 1978, when Carson was 35, and 2009. He was academy director at Peterborough and also worked at Norwich and Cambridge.

16 minutes before the trial was due to begin, he was killed in a car crash. No other vehicle was involved.

Re: Kit Carson - alleged abuser dies in car crash

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:11 pm
by Pimlico_Claret
In the absence of a trial, no one will now know the truth, which is unfortunate for everyone involved.

Re: Kit Carson - alleged abuser dies in car crash

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:51 pm
by nil_desperandum
Pimlico_Claret wrote:In the absence of a trial, no one will now know the truth, which is unfortunate for everyone involved.
Don't know the details, but the plus side might be that no-one now has to give evidence and recall horrific events of the past.

Re: Kit Carson - alleged abuser dies in car crash

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:07 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
So is it generally being assumed that he f**ked it into a wall/tree? I'd take that as a guilty plea tbh if so?

Re: Kit Carson - alleged abuser dies in car crash

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:03 pm
by Turfmoor321
“16 minutes before the trial was due to begin, he was killed in a car crash. No other vehicle was involved.”

Not factually true he died Monday morning the trail was due to start today..

Re: Kit Carson - alleged abuser dies in car crash

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:08 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
More should come out now though, can't libel the dead, after all

Re: Kit Carson - alleged abuser dies in car crash

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:41 pm
by Pimlico_Claret
nil_desperandum wrote:Don't know the details, but the plus side might be that no-one now has to give evidence and recall horrific events of the past.
Well he had pleaded not guilty, so I assume that would have been the case. Still, cowards way out, if deliberate.

Re: Kit Carson - alleged abuser dies in car crash

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:15 am
by dsr
Does anyone ever plead guilty at a committal hearing? A suspect would surely give the police time to lose the evidence or decide not to prosecute, before pleading guilty at the trial if it gets that far.

Re: Kit Carson - alleged abuser dies in car crash

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:51 am
by kicker_conspiracy
I'd imagine that, regardless of any guilt, the stress of an impending court case when it will basically be one word against the other, and with very high stakes involved, could push someone to the point they just cannot face it.

In many respects I'd imagine it would be much more stressful for someone who knows he's innocent, but who also knows that he cannot prove it. An innocent man must feel he has much more to lose than one who knows he's guilty.

Then again, there could have been dark forces at work who didn't wish this trial to happen.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24722248" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30938755" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Kit Carson - alleged abuser dies in car crash

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:00 am
by ClaretTony
Turfmoor321 wrote:“16 minutes before the trial was due to begin, he was killed in a car crash. No other vehicle was involved.”

Not factually true he died Monday morning the trail was due to start today..
According to reports and the court, it is factually true.

Jeremy Benson QC, prosecuting, informed the court Carson had died after a car crash at about 9.45am on Monday – 15 minutes before the case was listed to begin.

Re: Kit Carson - alleged abuser dies in car crash

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:08 am
by NottsClaret
kicker_conspiracy wrote:Then again, there could have been dark forces at work who didn't wish this trial to happen.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24722248" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30938755" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You might want to reign in it in a bit with these establishment paedo conspiracy theories.

Unless this is just the 'dark forces' pulling the strings again..
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46431818

Re: Kit Carson - alleged abuser dies in car crash

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:17 am
by Turfmoor321
ClaretTony wrote:According to reports and the court, it is factually true.

Jeremy Benson QC, prosecuting, informed the court Carson had died after a car crash at about 9.45am on Monday – 15 minutes before the case was listed to begin.
Just to put you right
https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/c ... l-15647069" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

No need to apologise

Re: Kit Carson - alleged abuser dies in car crash

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:19 am
by ClaretTony
Turfmoor321 wrote:Just to put you right
https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/c ... l-15647069" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

No need to apologise
I won't because the QC reported it as on the day no matter. No need to apologise.

Re: Kit Carson - alleged abuser dies in car crash

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:24 am
by Bfcboyo
I really hate Nonces of all grades. The horror stories of the convictions and the fact that most only come out when the kids are grown up and realise the wrong is chilling.

They really do need to forget civil rights on this one and start chemical castration at the first sign of trouble. One indecent image found - castrate
Conversation online with sexual intent with a minor - castrate
1st offence of assault - shoot the f"ers

Re: Kit Carson - alleged abuser dies in car crash

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:53 am
by TheFamilyCat
Bfcboyo wrote:I really hate Nonces of all grades. The horror stories of the convictions and the fact that most only come out when the kids are grown up and realise the wrong is chilling.

They really do need to forget civil rights on this one and start chemical castration at the first sign of trouble. One indecent image found - castrate
Conversation online with sexual intent with a minor - castrate
1st offence of assault - shoot the f"ers
I used to work with a bloke who was arrested for child porn offences. I can’t remember the exact details but he was innocent and he was wrongly implicated. Should he have been chemically castrated at the “first sign of trouble”?

Re: Kit Carson - alleged abuser dies in car crash

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:23 am
by Spijed
NottsClaret wrote:You might want to reign in it in a bit with these establishment paedo conspiracy theories.]
When you see the reports about hundreds if not thousands of priests being involved in child abuse then it's fair to assume there is a massive cover up in such places as Westminster, especially as it's been a male dominated environment.

Re: Kit Carson - alleged abuser dies in car crash

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:09 am
by NottsClaret
Spijed wrote:When you see the reports about hundreds if not thousands of priests being involved in child abuse then it's fair to assume there is a massive cover up in such places as Westminster, especially as it's been a male dominated environment.
Not sure it's fair to assume that really.

Re: Kit Carson - alleged abuser dies in car crash

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:41 am
by Bfcboyo
TheFamilyCat wrote:I used to work with a bloke who was arrested for child porn offences. I can’t remember the exact details but he was innocent and he was wrongly implicated. Should he have been chemically castrated at the “first sign of trouble”?
Accused or convicted? Answer is in your question.

Re: Kit Carson - alleged abuser dies in car crash

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:26 am
by Test User
Bfcboyo wrote:I really hate Nonces of all grades. The horror stories of the convictions and the fact that most only come out when the kids are grown up and realise the wrong is chilling.

They really do need to forget civil rights on this one and start chemical castration at the first sign of trouble. One indecent image found - castrate
Conversation online with sexual intent with a minor - castrate
1st offence of assault - shoot the f"ers

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