Went past this morning and an auction sign on its wall!

Are Homes under the hammer attending??????

Real ale 2 wrote:Went past this morning and an auction sign on its wall!

Home of the Moonstone Brewery as well

Saw Dion Dublin outside earlier in a full Coventry kit

theroyaldyche wrote:Saw Dion Dublin outside earlier in a full Coventry kit

Martell Maxwell might be a shorty (and Scottish ) but would rather meet her than Dion Dubstep.......

I go in there now and again... very handy sometimes when you’ve just got off the train
Fair play to the landlord for his efforts with real ale/ proper drinks.

Still not sure if I think it’s a good venue or not ?

Art gallery too

It IS a good venue. Hope it continues as an alehouse plus gins for the s.arses.

Nothing in the local Telegraph about it.

South West Claret. wrote:Nothing in the local Telegraph about it.

Well, there won't be will there, SOUTH WEST claret.

He tells me he has lost thousands due to the rail dispute. Hope it sells as a going concern.

duncandisorderly wrote:Well, there won't be will there, SOUTH WEST claret.

Why exactly DD and I know the local paper is Blackburnt biased.

What’s the name of the auctioneer?

The premises being up for auction might not mean the business is.... do we know if its the whole shebang?

South West Claret. wrote:Why exactly DD and I know the local paper is Blackburnt biased.

Because your local paper covers the south west....

duncandisorderly wrote:Because your local paper covers the south west....

I had a idea you were going to say that... you stupid boy

The Old Red Lion is up for Auction as well, but Thwaites have some sort of order on the property preventing it selling beer.

Talbot for sale. Roggerham Gate for sale. Park View lease for sale. Foresters for sale. Inn on Wharf becoming housing. The Mix for sale. Bentley Wood Farm for sale. All apart from first two shut and tinned up. Use them or lose them.

The Talbot? What at the bottom of Ormerod Road?

South West Claret. wrote:The Talbot? What at the bottom of Ormerod Road?

As a going concern.

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claret wizard wrote:As a going concern.

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Thanks for the link CW, I stayed there the last time I was up and was impressed.

Looks like a reasonable buy on first looking for an ambitious couple to take on.

South West Claret. wrote:What’s the name of the auctioneer?

Eric

Who's daft enough to put £500k into the pub industry now a days?

Would be a real shame if the Talbot went. Only pub in the town centre still worth bothering with on a weekend.

jrgbfc wrote:Would be a real shame if the Talbot went. Only pub in the town centre still worth bothering with on a weekend.

Its only busy on match days. another doomed pub.

Chip Harrison wrote:Its only busy on match days. another doomed pub.

Always busy when I go down on a Friday or Saturday night. Still have bands on a Sunday afternoon/evening as well so must be worth their while to keep doing it.

Apologies actually for sale with Burnleys favourite sign maker Trevor Dawson

I like the Ministry of Ale. A friendly pub with excellent beer. Its location out of the town centre is obviously a drawback but the train station is increasing busy and there must be potential for investment and survival as a pub. Good luck to any investor prepared to try and make it a success and I can guarantee my full (and thirsty) support.

The decor when I last went in reminded me of the pub that Nelson runs in Life On Mars.

According to the sales particulars it's up for sale due to retirement. That could, of course, be utter b***ocks but if it's true then it might be a good investment if you can get it at the right price. Perhaps we should pool our resources and buy it and run it as a cooperative.

Only if we can run it as an EU themed pub

theroyaldyche wrote:Saw Dion Dublin outside earlier in a full Coventry kit

Don't tell Rob Savage about it or they will be a price war

Lancasterclaret wrote:Only if we can run it as an EU themed pub

Only if you can find a collective of 28 drinkers. They must all be willing to drink exclusively in that pub and be governed by its rules. The rules will be made up by the landlord and each drinker will have no say in who the landlord is or what rules he makes up. He will set the price of a pint, which for our purposes will be £4 a pint, so a round for all our 28 drinkers will cost £112. Now depending on how wealthy or otherwise you are, the price you pay for your part of the round will vary. So the large German gentleman will pay £22.68 for his pint. The British bloke will pay £11.98 for his pint. The poor Greek guy in the corner? His pint will cost him £2.24 because he is very inefficient in running his affairs. And we have a new guy who has entered the pub from Estonia. He has had a really hard life and doesn't have much money. He can't really afford to drink in this pub but the landlord has allowed him to, as he sets the rules remember. So our poor Estonian guy only has to pay just under 16 pence for his pint.

Does this sound like the sort of pub you would drink in if you were German or British?

Still not got over that Brexit is going to be bad I see Herts!

I would suggest that most people will notice very little change. That is of course unless the Germans decide they can afford not to sell us their BMWs, Mercedes, Audis, VWs and Porsches. And the Spanish don't need the income from all their fruit, veg and salad they sell to the UK and can do without the income from holiday makers each year. Or the French won't sell us wine or champagne, cheese and Peugeot and Citroen cars.

Can you see that happening? Me neither.

Herts Clarets wrote:Only if you can find a collective of 28 drinkers. They must all be willing to drink exclusively in that pub and be governed by its rules. The rules will be made up by the landlord and each drinker will have no say in who the landlord is or what rules he makes up. He will set the price of a pint, which for our purposes will be £4 a pint, so a round for all our 28 drinkers will cost £112. Now depending on how wealthy or otherwise you are, the price you pay for your part of the round will vary. So the large German gentleman will pay £22.68 for his pint. The British bloke will pay £11.98 for his pint. The poor Greek guy in the corner? His pint will cost him £2.24 because he is very inefficient in running his affairs. And we have a new guy who has entered the pub from Estonia. He has had a really hard life and doesn't have much money. He can't really afford to drink in this pub but the landlord has allowed him to, as he sets the rules remember. So our poor Estonian guy only has to pay just under 16 pence for his pint.

Does this sound like the sort of pub you would drink in if you were German or British?

The Greek would scrounge free beer of any newcomer because everyone else will already have been stung once

Herts Clarets wrote:Only if you can find a collective of 28 drinkers.

Your analogy was going really well until this point.

Edit: I should say that it fell apart after this point.

Herts used to work in supply chain management.

He's better qualified than me to comment on the problems this will cause. I've been banging on about how bad it will be based on my experience for years.

Herts, this is your chance to tell me that I'm making it all up and that the supply chains in this country are all ready for a "No Deal" Brexit?

Being serious for a sec, the Ministry of Ale is a good pub and its a shame that its being sold.

Village we live in has three pubs, one doing well, one looking for new tenants and not doing well, and one closed since Mitchells went bust.

its a bad time for the industry that is for sure.

Herts still works in Transport Management. Not for one minute do I believe that anything is prepared for a No Deal Brexit. But neither do I believe that is where we will end up. This is all a game of bluff and counter bluff. Both sides playing hard ball. But eventually both sides will have to put their cards on the table. And eventually a compromise will be reached. By both sides. Because as I said, neither side can afford a No Deal. It won't happen.

Christ mate, hope you are right.

I was kinda hoping that you'd put my fears at rest as I've been out of it for a while!

Like the new car btw!

Quickenthetempo wrote:Who's daft enough to put £500k into the pub industry now a days?

You’re right in that particular case. If you had £500k you wouldn’t want to be buying the Talbot. Not to say someone couldn’t make a modest but acceptable income out of it, If they took on the lease and negotiated a realistic rent (well under 30k anyway). There’s just no way that is a half a million pound site. Also the GP looks pretty poor on those figures.

I’ve been in maybe 5-6 times and never seen more that 5-6 people in, if that to be honest.

I expect it depends when you went in, I’ve been in twice in about 10 years on Friday and Saturday and they were full on both nights.

Sausage wrote:According to the sales particulars it's up for sale due to retirement. That could, of course, be utter b***ocks but if it's true then it might be a good investment if you can get it at the right price. Perhaps we should pool our resources and buy it and run it as a cooperative.

Not ********. Landlord Mick is getting on. I like the grumpy old sod but he's got to pack in sometime and it's time to ease his knackered old bones.
This place will make a good do for someone - ales and gins.

Sausage wrote:According to the sales particulars it's up for sale due to retirement. That could, of course, be utter b***ocks but if it's true then it might be a good investment if you can get it at the right price. Perhaps we should pool our resources and buy it and run it as a cooperative.

Here's an article on one community that saved their pub.

Somerset campaigners awarded by CAMRA for saving 150-year-old village pub

Thursday 27 December 2018

Campaigners in Somerset who saved a 150-year-old village pub from closure have been awarded CAMRA's prestigious Pub Saving Award, recognising the communities that work hard to keep their beloved locals open.

The Save the Packhorse Project was set up by residents of South Stoke, Bath, in May 2012, in response to the much loved Packhorse Inn being sold to new owners, who planned to convert it into a residence with ground floor office space. By the end of May, the Save the Packhorse Project had acquired the support of Bath and North East Somerset Council, achieved national news coverage, and secured backing from nearly 1,500 signatories on an online petition.

In February 2013 after a wave of local support and campaigning, the Packhorse Inn was added to the Council's Assets of Community Value list, giving the local community six months to raise funds to buy it.

The community organised a Save the Packhorse pop-up bar in South Stoke in May 2013, which has become a well-attended annual event with entertainment, flowing drinks, and press coverage.

After a long stalemate with the pub's new owner, the team were told in June 2016 that they had less than 100 days to raise the £500,000 plus legal costs to secure the pub. Within three weeks, £287,000 had been raised. By September 2016, they had raised £601,000 with the help of 200 investors.

The Packhorse Inn, now the property of 430 shareholders, was successfully reopened as a community pub in March 2018, after undergoing huge renovations to the building - it is estimated that more than 1,000 hours of volunteer time were allocated to the garden alone. During the course of its renovation, an original 17th century fireplace was discovered inside the pub, harking back to the building's long history. Local historians estimate the inn's founding to 1618 - meaning it reopened its doors exactly 400 years since its earliest days as an ale house.

Dom Moorhouse, Managing Director of the Packhorse Community Pub, says: "We're absolutely delighted to hear the news that we've won the Pub Saving Award. It's really a testament to our visionary, generous shareholders and the hundreds of volunteers who have helped make the project a reality.

"It's really hard work, doing what we've done, and it's so rewarding for everyone involved to not only have a great community asset but also be recognised for our achievement as a team."

Paul Ainsworth, who organises CAMRA's Pub Saving Award, adds: "The Packhorse Inn was unanimously selected by our judges as the winner of CAMRA's Pub Saving Award. I have followed their story closely and with interest - it really is inspirational stuff! I hope that success stories such as this of the Packhorse Community Pub encourage other communities to fight for their local pub. The Packhorse has served the village of South Stoke for centuries now - to have lost it would have been devastating, and I am delighted that the team have been rewarded for their unyielding persistence and effort."

The runner-up in the competition was the Volunteer Pub in Bexleyheath, which closed in late 2017 after 152 years of service as a public house. Saved by local campaigners, the pub was reopened in April 2018, and has established several football teams, an active golf society, and regularly promotes live music with Open Mic nights and acoustic guitar sets

So, is the Ministry of Ale still open? Looking to be heading there tomorrow before the Palace game.

Billyblah wrote:So, is the Ministry of Ale still open? Looking to be heading there tomorrow before the Palace game.

Yes it is.

Never the same since he swapped kozel for fosters. Still a great place when you come off the manny train though