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Venezuela ...

Post by Clarets4me » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:30 pm

The inflation rate is over 1,000,000 % , young women are cutting their hair to sell it to wigmakers in neighbouring countries, the late President's daughter is revealed to have over $ 4 billion in Bank accounts in the USA and Andorra, over a million people have fled over the borders for work, and now the army are attacking and burning aid lorries with supplies meant for it's own people ..... what a mess !

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... uro-guaido

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Re: Venezuela ...

Post by Bosscat » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:36 pm

Corbynistas will be crucifying this as Fake News C4me m8

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Re: Venezuela ...

Post by theroyaldyche » Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:44 pm

Sounds like parts of brierfield

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Re: Venezuela ...

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:52 pm

Theyve no oil so we wont get involved.

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Re: Venezuela ...

Post by Vino blanco » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:09 pm

Venezuela has some of the world's largest oil reserves. It's name means little Venice.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:27 pm

Vino blanco wrote:Venezuela has some of the world's largest oil reserves. It's name means little Venice.
I was beimg facetious.

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Post by thatdberight » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:29 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Theyve no oil so we wont get involved.
Well, Cuba, China and Russia are propping up Maduro so if you were thinking Venezuela would simply be left to get its own **** together while the West polished their haloes, unfortunately not.

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Re: Venezuela ...

Post by grapidianclaret » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:49 pm

Trump saying all options are on the table.
McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, Taco Bell. They are all on the table
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Re: Venezuela ...

Post by ClaretMoffitt » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:17 pm

Capitalisms fault.

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Re: Venezuela ...

Post by Clarets4me » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:25 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Capitalisms fault.
Yep, they've just not had enough Socialism ..... what they need is more !! :(

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Post by Damo » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:30 pm

It's the blueprint for socialism according to Corbyn.

Reminds me of Coyles "ten years in front" quote
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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:32 pm

Shows the danger of ideological purity over common sense.

How one of the biggest oil exporters in the world can be in this kind of mess is absolutely incredible.
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Post by ClaretMoffitt » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:19 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Shows the danger of ideological purity over common sense.

How one of the biggest oil exporters in the world can be in this kind of mess is absolutely incredible.
Never underestimate the destructive power of greed and corruption.

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Post by Lord Beamish » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:25 pm

They were really annoying at that World Cup.
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Re: Venezuela ...

Post by houseboy » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:03 am

I am still friends with a Venezuelan girl I used to work with (at a distance - I think she lives in France now), and she fears for her family terribly. She saw this coming some time ago. The country should be wealthy beyond belief.

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Re: Venezuela ...

Post by Imploding Turtle » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:18 am

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Capitalisms fault.

Mostly true.
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Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:11 am

Capitalism- man exploits man.

Socialism/Communism - it's the exact opposite.
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Post by duncandisorderly » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:31 am

RingoMcCartney wrote:Capitalism- man exploits man.

Socialism/Communism - it's the exact opposite.

What's the opposite of man exploits man? Man doesn't exploit man?
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Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:35 am

duncandisorderly wrote:What's the opposite of man exploits man? Man doesn't exploit man?
Woman doesn't exploit woman? ....

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Post by bluelabrador16 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:13 pm

Hands Off Venezuela

Time to listen and learn!

An Ocean of Lies on Venezuela: Abby Martin & UN Rapporteur Expose Coup

"On the eve of another US war for oil, Abby Martin debunks the most repeated myths about Venezuela and uncovers how US sanctions are crimes against humanity with UN Investigator and Human Rights Rapporteur Alfred De Zayas."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... i5MlQgGXyk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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The evil American empire will stop at nothing to secure that oil.

This is what journalism is. Much respect to you Abby

the 'international community' is often a Orwellian euphemism for racist imperialist regimes.
Absolutely required viewing. You will learn things!

Venezuela: An Open Letter to the UN Secretary General

Reblogged from the personal website of Prof. Alfred de Zayas, human rights lawyer and former UN Independent Expert. This is important – please share widely.

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Alfred de Zayas, human rights lawyer & UN independent expert on international order. His report on Venezuela has been buried by the MSM.

https://off-guardian.org/2019/02/24/ven ... y-general/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Venezuela ...

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:36 pm

When did these US sanctions against Venezuela start BlueLab?

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Post by bluelabrador16 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:19 pm

Lancasterclaret, President Obama issued a number of sanctions against Venezuela in 2015.

I move on:

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Some of the transcript from the video posted above:

Alfred De Zayas

..What is particularly Machiavellian, what is particularly cynical, is to cause an economic crisis that threatens to become a humanitarian crisis. That's what the United States has done through the financial blockade through the sanctions and then to say, 'oh we're going to offer you humanitarian help, we're sending over so many tonnes of humanitarian assistance through US aid, we're sending it to Colombia and we're going to deliver it now'.....

.. a country as wealthy as Venezuela should have been able to borrow money on its enormous natural resources and then would have been able to buy and sell like anybody else, but no, the United States has made sure that wouldn't be an option,...

..In July 2017, Citibank unexpectedly decided, without prior notice and arbitrarily, to close the bank accounts of the Central Bank of Venezuela and the Bank of Venezuela; in November 2017, again Citibank blocked the transfer for a shipment of more than three hundred thousand doses of insulin; In November 2017 the company Euroclear retained 1.65 billion dollars that the Venezuelan government had paid for the purpose of the purchase of food and medicine. Citgo, the Venezuelan state oil company based in the US, has not been able to transfer its profits outside the United States of America; It needs that money to buy food and medicine, and it is in the neighborhood -- I think by now -- of nine or ten billion dollars that have been withheld. Again, Wells Fargo Bank withheld and cancelled payment of 7,500,000 made by Brazil to Venezuela for the sale of electricity in May 2018; the Venezuelan Minister of people's power informed that a financial transaction amounting to seven million dollars for the purchase of dialysis supplies for patients, including children and adolescents that require such treatment, had been blocked ......

..now you have the Bank of England seizing the gold right from Maduro, over a billion dollars worth, and threatening to give it to Juan Guaidó.

What I think is important now would be for the General Assembly to adopt the resolution condemning the sanctions and asking that the sanctions be lifted because sanctions kill. I would also like to see the prosecutor of the International Criminal Court investigate to what extent the deaths that already occurred in connection with the sanctions amount to a violation of article 7 of the statute of Rome article 7 defines crimes against humanity.

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Re: Venezuela ...

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:26 pm

Cool, do you mind listing them for the benefit of those of us who are not as well informed as you?

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Post by bluelabrador16 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:11 pm

Venezuela: Overview of U.S. Sanctions

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/IF10715.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Aside:

MacCruiskeen .."Repulsive to read and especially hear: the BBC's incessant, uncritical use of that blatant propaganda term, "humanitarian aid"."

Marco Rubio tweets bloodied Gaddafi photo as he calls for Maduro to step down in Venezuela

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MacCruiskeen "Rubio, Pompeo, Abrams - the sheer shameless thuggishness of these people is breathtaking, yet the Democratic Party, the so-called opposition, stands solidly behind them and their ongoing fascist coup attempt."

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... 1&start=90" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by SmudgetheClaret » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:44 pm

This is a confusing one normally I would be first to promote getting rid of a socialist lunatic but looking at the people wanting him out like the warmongering neocons and usual regime changing criminals I'm stumped..

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Re: Venezuela ...

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:45 pm

Okay, this is fun

List of the US sanctions please.

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:59 pm

SmudgetheClaret wrote:This is a confusing one normally I would be first to promote getting rid of a socialist lunatic but looking at the people wanting him out like the warmongering neocons and usual regime changing criminals I'm stumped..
Sounds like you're basing your opinions entirely on the opinions that other people hold. I think you Qultists have a name for that, don't you? I'm quite sure that's what an NPC is.

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Re: Venezuela ...

Post by houseboy » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:54 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Woman doesn't exploit woman? ....
You think?

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Re: Venezuela ...

Post by Clarets4me » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:19 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Okay, this is fun .. List of the US sanctions please.
Agreed, and no-one's yet explained how Charvez's daughter ended up with over $4,000,000,000 in her bank accounts in Andorra and the United States ..

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Post by thatdberight » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:48 am

Clarets4me wrote:Agreed, and no-one's yet explained how Charvez's daughter ended up with over $4,000,000,000 in her bank accounts in Andorra and the United States ..
She misspelt her name on the application forms so they didn't realise who she was.

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