https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/0 ... facturing/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Alt-right rag, not worth a s***

Lisbonclaret wrote:Alt-right rag, not worth a s***

When posters constantly quote the guardian, huff post and the BBC for their agendas, I'd say that the OPs link is just as valid.

Anyone who thinks the Guardian and Breibart are the same needs to lay off the booze a bit.

Breitbart actually makes stuff up.

So simple, scared people get more scared.

But like anything that you hear these days, you do need to check it with multiple other news organisations to see a more balanced view.

Which is what I do.

This news isn't actually news, at least not yet.

Breitbart have jumped the gun on this because no announcement has officially been made but something is on the cards, just from searching Google.

I'm guessing that they are waiting for official confirmation of Mays deal passing to be honest, because it gives certainty.

Business news on the BBC website mentions it with an announcement to be made in early March apparently.

Lancasterclaret wrote:I'm guessing that they are waiting for official confirmation of Mays deal passing to be honest, because it gives certainty.

Mays deal isn't brexit only in name.

Lancasterclaret wrote:Anyone who thinks the Guardian and Breibart are the same needs to lay off the booze a bit.

Breitbart actually makes stuff up.

So simple, scared people get more scared.

But like anything that you hear these days, you do need to check it with multiple other news organisations to see a more balanced view.

Which is what I do.

What's that about making stuff up ?

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/02/2 ... fake-news/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

An opinion piece isn't news

ClaretAndJew wrote:An opinion piece isn't news

Like 80% of the Guardian articles then. Opinions pushing a lefty/liberal/socialist view.

So what people are saying is this is what is going to happen, but it's not been officially announced ...
In the old days, you'd say Breitbart had " broken the news first " or " got a scoop " ...

Lancasterclaret wrote:Anyone who thinks the Guardian and Breibart are the same...

I don't know where your line is but for me they both fall the wrong side of ideologically-driven, untrustworthy sources. Frankly, I can't be bothered with the nuances within that category.

ClaretAndJew wrote:An opinion piece isn't news

in 2019, nobody knows or cares about the difference.

S'all about them clicks and all about that lobbying

I just laugh at people who think posting a rebuttal in defence of Breibart from spiked is going to be taken seriously.

And I repeat, if you only get your news sources from one source (or even two) then you risk missing out.

If for example your news sources are Breitbart and Spiked, then you are less well informed than the chair I'm sitting on.

Lancasterclaret wrote:I just laugh at people who think posting a rebuttal in defence of Breibart from spiked is going to be taken seriously.

And I repeat, if you only get your news sources from one source (or even two) then you risk missing out.

If for example your news sources are Breitbart and Spiked, then you are less well informed than the chair I'm sitting on.

I just did a google search for "Guardian fake news" as i had seen on twitter about them not taking down that particular story until a few days after, and 16 thousand shares later.

And?

I know you think the MSM is biased against people who think like you and CM, but the reality is that most news is balanced with a slight bent to one side or the other.

Breibart and Spiked don't even pretend to be unbiased as they report what people like you and CM want to hear (see also Guido Fawkes, for the left, the canary and squawkbox and I'm sure there are others).

Lancasterclaret wrote:And?

I know you think the MSM is biased against people who think like you and CM, but the reality is that most news is balanced with a slight bent to one side or the other.

Breibart and Spiked don't even pretend to be unbiased as they report what people like you and CM want to hear (see also Guido Fawkes, for the left, the canary and squawkbox and I'm sure there are others).

The Guardian ran a story that made false accusations about EU migrants because it fits their narrative, it was shared 16 thousand times, they left the article up even when they knew it was wrong.

BTW, i don't go on Brietbart or Spiked, never have done.

SmudgetheClaret wrote:https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/0 ... facturing/

Don't want to pop your bubble or anything but the company I work for in the UK sell to most US automation suppliers.
Jaguar are one of those being a Ford company.

We are 20% down on last year on our turnover and there is talk of job loses.

mistake

And yet you shared a Spiked link

Rookie mistake there mate.

LeuvenClaret wrote:Don't want to pop your bubble or anything but the company I work for in the UK sell to most US automation suppliers.
Jaguar are one of those being a Ford company.

We are 20% down on last year on our turnover and there is talk of job loses.

JLR are not a Ford company. They were for a while and Ford almost bankrupted them by trying to use cheaper parts and chassis, lower quality control and high volume production methods on cars built for the quality car market. Both Jaguar and Land Rover suffered dramatic losses of sales and had to spend millions rectifying shoddy output.

JLR are now owned by the Indian company, Tata Motors, who have a legally binding agreement that 'Land Rover' branded cars will never be built outside the UK (the Slovakian plant is building cars under the 'Discovery' brand) and that the main production plants at Castle Bromwich (Jaguar) and Solihull (Land Rover) will continue to be the main production sites for JLR.

Lancasterclaret wrote:And yet you shared a Spiked link

Rookie mistake there mate.

like i said, i googled "guardian fake news" as i was looking for that specific guardian story, that's what came up.

Hi Lancs,

Please cut your squabbling about what has or has not been reported in breitbart - whatever that is.

The story of JLR investing in UK battery factory was in at least 1 of yesterday's newspapers.

The Sunday Times has a broader take on the story - and I've left ST's "several dire months - hurt by Brexit...." quote in there for you.

Ministers mull cash for Tesla-style battery factory

Ministers are considering backing a £1.7bn factory to build electric batteries for Britain’s biggest car makers.

Talks are under way over state support for a shared “giga factory” — a UK version of Tesla’s huge battery factory in America’s Nevada desert.
The talks are understood to involve four of the big manufacturers — Jaguar Land Rover, BMW, Nissan and Geely. A shared factory would allow ministers to dodge concerns over unfair state aid as they would be able to claim it was support for an entire industry. It would also allow manufacturers to share the huge investment cost, which few are willing to make alone.

Several dire months for Britain’s car makers — hurt by Brexit, the diesel crisis and weak consumer confidence — have underlined the urgency of the talks. Last month, Jaguar unveiled £3.4bn of losses and in January said it was cutting 4,500 jobs. Honda said last month that it would close its Swindon factory in 2022.

Industry experts say domestic battery production is vital if the car industry is to make the switch from combustion engines to electric vehicles, because of the costs and risks of transporting batteries.

LeuvenClaret wrote:Don't want to pop your bubble or anything but the company I work for in the UK sell to most US automation suppliers.
Jaguar are one of those being a Ford company.

We are 20% down on last year on our turnover and there is talk of job loses.

Ooooops thats a fail m8 ....

Jaguar/Land Rover not owned by Ford they are owned by Tata

Quite a lot of the Jaguar stuff is being built at the Steyr-Puch plant in Austria.....