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Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:15 pm
by Chester Perry
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should have been forced to wait until next season under the Premier League rules in my view

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:32 pm
by Pimlico_Claret
Chester Perry wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47502366

should have been forced to wait until next season under the Premier League rules in my view
Totally agree, what's the point. Considering how draconian the FA are with lower league clubs grounds meeting regulations etc, this is a bit of a **** take.

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:59 pm
by Bosscat
Chester Perry wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47502366

should have been forced to wait until next season under the Premier League rules in my view
Shouldn't be allowed to play there till pre season next term.....

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:06 pm
by tiger76
I thought they weren't allowed to play in the new ground this season,this is a nonsense,how can that be fair to the rest of the league.

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:19 pm
by jdrobbo
Totally unfair!

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:21 pm
by Goody1975
Cup games = Yes
League games = Big fat NO!!

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:26 pm
by ClaretShaun
Goody1975 wrote:Cup games = Yes
League games = Big fat NO!!

Why is it unfair?

Is it because Spurs will get a lift now and therefore its harder for visiting teams than it was for rest of us at Wembley... or am I missing something obvious?

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:29 pm
by Goody1975
ClaretShaun wrote:Why is it unfair?

Is it because Spurs will get a lift now and therefore its harder for visiting teams than it was for rest of us at Wembley... or am I missing something obvious?
or the opposite, we don't know.

Level playing field and all that.

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:34 pm
by ClaretShaun
Yeah just the talk of it being unfair..... I can’t see why it’s unfair to anyone

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:45 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
I honestly don't understand whats unfair about it?

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:47 pm
by ClaretShaun
Warnock was saying similar ages ago, don’t get it

Doesn’t bother me unless I’m missing something

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:11 am
by Rick_Muller
It’s quite simple really - Spurs May improve their performances at WHL or they may play crap, the point is that it is different and as such not a “level playing field” so to speak

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:59 am
by tim_noone
cricketfieldclarets wrote:I honestly don't understand whats unfair about it?
Your not a real fan then! :roll:

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:15 am
by CFS
Rick_Muller wrote:It’s quite simple really - Spurs May improve their performances at WHL or they may play crap, the point is that it is different and as such not a “level playing field” so to speak
Nike stadium apparently.

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:17 am
by JimMcDonald
Hopefully we stay up. Liz has been onto me about wanting to go the new WHL for months.

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:45 am
by cricketfieldclarets
Rick_Muller wrote:It’s quite simple really - Spurs May improve their performances at WHL or they may play crap, the point is that it is different and as such not a “level playing field” so to speak
So when we bulldozed the longside in 1995 we shouldnt have been allowed to play at the turf?

Come to think of it we shouldnt be allowed to play here while the disabled sectionnis constructed. We should wait until 2020 or whenever its complete.

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:50 am
by wilks_bfc
cricketfieldclarets wrote:So when we bulldozed the longside in 1995 we shouldnt have been allowed to play at the turf?

Come to think of it we shouldnt be allowed to play here while the disabled sectionnis constructed. We should wait until 2020 or whenever its complete.

Complete new stadium with new facilities for both teams v building a new section for 100 people?


Yeah they are both the same scenario

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:03 am
by ClaretShaun
wilks_bfc wrote:Complete new stadium with new facilities for both teams v building a new section for 100 people?


Yeah they are both the same scenario
How is it unfair and who is it unfair too?

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:14 am
by Rick_Muller
ClaretShaun wrote:How is it unfair and who is it unfair too?
It could be deemed unfair to us, we may have got a result playing at WHL but didn’t at Wembley. Then BHA get a result at WHL but may not have at Wembley - because the stadia are different it could be perceived as an advantage one way or the other.

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:21 am
by wilks_bfc
You’re correct. It shouldn’t make any difference but it’s psychological

As with anything new or a change (new manager, new player) it gives the team & supporters a “lift” - look at the reaction Heston brought when he came back.

Spurs will get that lift and for those games have that “extra edge”.

It may also have the “West Ham” effect where they don’t win.
Not sure who they have to play at home from bottom of table but I know I wouldn’t want that to happen

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:48 am
by Winstonswhite
“Unfair”???!!!

Hilarious. Is this a forum for 12 year olds?!!

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:56 am
by Quickenthetempo
After experiencing the horrible conditions of a half full freezing Wembley in December, for the fans sake, the sooner they are allowed home the better.

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:08 am
by cricketfieldclarets
So they are moving from a new stadium in north London, with a regulation sized pitch in front of 60,000 fans a week to a new stadium in north London, with a regulation sized pitch in front of 60,000 fans a week... yep sounds really unfair :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:11 am
by Rick_Muller
cricketfieldclarets wrote:So they are moving from a new stadium in north London, with a regulation sized pitch in front of 60,000 fans a week to a new stadium in north London, with a regulation sized pitch in front of 60,000 fans a week... yep sounds really unfair :lol: :lol: :lol:
Stop being obtuse about it. If the Turf were to be redeveloped and Burnley we’re playing at the nearest suitable stadium (Ewood) you would fully understand why we would have an advantage going “home” to Turf Moor

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:20 am
by Claretmatt4
Rick_Muller wrote:Stop being obtuse about it. If the Turf were to be redeveloped and Burnley we’re playing at the nearest suitable stadium (Ewood) you would fully understand why we would have an advantage going “home” to Turf Moor
No I don't really. How does it make a difference if its at the start of a new season or in April? Who cares?

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:57 am
by Chester Perry
If people understood how long it takes a home side to get used to new surroundings and how results appear to veer away from the norm then they would understand - just look at Arsenal when they first moved to the emirates and Spurs when they first moved into Wembley (including our result there).

Home team and fans are not used to their surroundings and spend a lot of time adjusting to the new surroundings while away teams see it as an opportunity to set a new trend and of course the away teams/supporters are really up for spoiling the party for the home team. It is a pretty well established scenario which specifically led to the rule change. For teams in the relegation zone it is a boost for those yet to visit and a disadvantage for those who missed out - that is what Warnock was on about and he is right

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:01 pm
by Dyched
Rick_Muller wrote:Stop being obtuse about it. If the Turf were to be redeveloped and Burnley we’re playing at the nearest suitable stadium (Ewood) you would fully understand why we would have an advantage going “home” to Turf Moor
I wouldn’t say playing the last 3/4 home games is an advantage.

The rest of the teams will play 19 home/away games.
Spurs 3/4 home the rest of them away.

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:18 pm
by ClaretShaun
Winstonswhite wrote:“Unfair”???!!!

Hilarious. Is this a forum for 12 year olds?!!
Ridiculous. If you’re whinging at something like this that makes no difference at all then you’ve little other worry or insterest in normal life..... or you’re 12 year old.

.....and and perceived tiny advantage you would feel would have to lie with those, like us, who have already played away to Spurs.

Spurs fans / players can’t wait to leave Wembley and it’s not been good for them..... whereas visiting players, those who hardly get to a final, will love the chance to play at Wembley.

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:28 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Chester Perry wrote:If people understood how long it takes a home side to get used to new surroundings and how results appear to veer away from the norm then they would understand - just look at Arsenal when they first moved to the emirates and Spurs when they first moved into Wembley (including our result there).

Home team and fans are not used to their surroundings and spend a lot of time adjusting to the new surroundings while away teams see it as an opportunity to set a new trend and of course the away teams/supporters are really up for spoiling the party for the home team. It is a pretty well established scenario which specifically led to the rule change. For teams in the relegation zone it is a boost for those yet to visit and a disadvantage for those who missed out - that is what Warnock was on about and he is right
Yep just look at Leicester who won their first 6 games at their new ground. Lets face it im sure there's examples of teams struggling, teams doing well and teams doing indifferently in the same way teams who dont move grounds have mixed fortunes

Got to agree with those on here who see how pathetic it is to be getting upset about Spurs playing their last few home games at their new ground

Edit: Arsenal wasnt you best example as they only lost once at home all season (in April) after moving to the Emirates

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:53 pm
by dsr
So, as Chester Perry points out, it's unfair because the away team gets an advantage; and as ClaretShaun points out, because the home team gets an advantage.

I reckon it's about as unfair as when one team plays away to Spurs in April with the sun shining and a pleasant day, while another has a wet and windy December match. It's unfair, but impossible to judge who it's unfair to, and equally impossible to make it absolutely equal for all.

How is it fair that we played Spurs when Kane was playing, and the teams before us didn't?

Re: Spurs to play at new ground in April

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:02 am
by cricketfieldclarets
Rick_Muller wrote:Stop being obtuse about it. If the Turf were to be redeveloped and Burnley we’re playing at the nearest suitable stadium (Ewood) you would fully understand why we would have an advantage going “home” to Turf Moor
OK Then